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Old May 12, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by vipernicus42
Freakin' sweet. I want one.

You say this is an REW? So you took a 3rd gen engine, put an -SE front cover and CAS in and mounted it that way?

What all did you do to get this thing from it's original state to where it is now? I *so* wanna hear the story, I've got a friend who'd love to do this to his!

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Yes, it's an REW. Used REW irons and internals, JHB Cermet housings, 12a front cover, GSL-SE oil pan, FC N/A water pump and CAS. The front cover had to be drilled in two places to accept studs for the oil pan. Used a TII trans, with a 3/4 box-steel mount to the stock GSL-SE tranny cross member. Also notched the tranny tunnel to accept the tailshaft.

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Old May 12, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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why'd u use a 12a front cover? i didnt even think that was possible. . . im doin a TII swap n i have to use a gsl-se front cover to do the swap.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 03:12 AM
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why'd u use a 12a front cover? i didnt even think that was possible. . . im doin a TII swap n i have to use a gsl-se front cover to do the swap.
That's a very common misconception. The 12a front cover is virtually identical. You have to drill and tap for an oil drain, but then you have to do the same on an -SE cover as well. There are lots of good spots for it on both.

I used to have an S4 TII motor in this car, and used a 12a front cover on it as well. When drilling the original -SE front cover that came with the car, it cracked. I was freaking out until I found the 12a front cover works just as well.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MWMburton
why'd u use a 12a front cover? i didnt even think that was possible. . . im doin a TII swap n i have to use a gsl-se front cover to do the swap.
Either cover works fine.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 07:08 AM
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Yea people use the 12A if there gonna run premix because the 12A OMP only has 2 lines and the SE OMP has 4 lines. Thats the only other major difference.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Very Nice!! I likey the bling bling!! I need to clean mine up...dammit.

For what's its worth, I maxed out my 63-1 turbo at 21psi (redline), and did 492, and later 507 (with the wastegate forced shut)

My engine might have a higher volume efficiency than yours, so I need a bigger turbo to feed it, to reach its potential.

The REW has smaller ports and runners, so you should be able to hit your goal easier than I did.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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Very Nice!! I likey the bling bling!! I need to clean mine up...dammit.

For what's its worth, I maxed out my 63-1 turbo at 21psi (redline), and did 492, and later 507 (with the wastegate forced shut)

My engine might have a higher volume efficiency than yours, so I need a bigger turbo to feed it, to reach its potential.

The REW has smaller ports and runners, so you should be able to hit your goal easier than I did.
You're using a cosmo RE with a street port, right? I'm interested to know if you did any work on the exhaust port.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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very minor. basically just swapped the cosmo sleeves for REW ones.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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man that bastard is gonna be fun! i'm on the verge of pulling my beasted TII setup out of the fc and putting it in the 1st gen!!!!

only thing that sux is i gotta pull that damn v8 out of the fb first lol
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Old May 14, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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The pulling of the V8 is the sucky part? lol.

I'm still in love with this setup. A half bridged rew inside of an -SE. That kind of talk is dream status.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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man that bastard is gonna be fun! i'm on the verge of pulling my beasted TII setup out of the fc and putting it in the 1st gen!!!!
Thats how I got started. My TII died in a fire, and I dumped everything worthwhile into my -SE. This is the second turbo motor I've had in this car.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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Very nice project!!!
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Old May 15, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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Regarding the differences between the 12A and SE front covers, if premixing or installing an engine that uses the electronic mop, either cover works fine. If doing a direct/stock mop install with an S4 TII, one needs the SE covers since it has the 4 line mechanical mop.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 01:03 AM
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edit: i wasn't thinking hahaha


are you guys not worried about stress on the rear plate not having the motor mounts there anymore?
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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are you guys not worried about stress on the rear plate not having the motor mounts there anymore?
No, not really. People have been doing this for years, and my scattershield is there to keep it together under catastrophic circumstances.

I'm more worried about the front cover cracking and falling apart, or the tiny piece of aluminum holding the tranny tailshaft to the -SE cross-member coming apart. You should have seen the rear mount I made after a year or so running around with 300hp. It flattened it!
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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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hmm, is directfreak's mounting the same way? i know this is how everyone pretty much does it, but i haven't seen many that are making enough power to really put worry in 300 is nice, don't get me wrong but 400+ (which you should make on the new engine) will yank a little harder
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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What Type Of Intake Are You Running??? I.e. Stock Rew Or Something Like A J-tech??? I Am Doing A Simular Project, But I Will Run Stock Ports First...
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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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What Type Of Intake Are You Running??? I.e. Stock Rew Or Something Like A J-tech??? I Am Doing A Simular Project, But I Will Run Stock Ports First...
Stock REW LIM, UIM, and TB. Using a Greddy Elbow.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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how hard was it to do the swap?(engine wise) im going to drop a 13b REW in my first gen next summer =). thanks.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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Front Cover is fine.. Just get good (new) Engine Mounts.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 12:40 AM
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Old May 17, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FBsliderseven
how hard was it to do the swap?(engine wise) im going to drop a 13b REW in my first gen next summer =). thanks.
It's comparable to a TII swap. The REW has it's a couple quirks, and has cost a lot more money but it's essentially the same. A couple things to note:

1) You may have to drill and tap two new holes in the front iron to mate the GSL-SE oil pan.

2) Figure out the fuel setup you're going to use in advance, and don't just expect to use TII style injectors. Either keep the stock side-feed injectors, or buy a set of domestic style injectors and KGparts rails. Do your homework!

3) You'll have to figure out the oil-filler neck on your own. So far I haven't found a good solution. At this point I'm considering just putting a freeze plug with a vent on it, and using the dipstick tube to put my oil in.

Take your time and enjoy. With patience and a valid credit card, you'll get it done.
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Old May 18, 2007 | 01:14 AM
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are you guys not worried about stress on the rear plate not having the motor mounts there anymore?
If you're worried about the stress, RB makes a torque brace that attaches with the bolts that mate the tranny to the engine. for the price of the unit it may provide you with some cheap insurance that will provide any windup/twisting that ay occur between the motor and tranny mounts.
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Old May 19, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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Old May 20, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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thanks for the info. im taking the 13b REW directly out of a FD. So, the fuel system will be the same as the stock FD.
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