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"Mazda Screws Car Owners on Lugbolt Choice"

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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 07:08 AM
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"Mazda Screws Car Owners on Lugbolt Choice"

"ARRRRRGGG!"

Went to an autoparts place looking for studs to replace my lugbolts with. I need long studs for the wheels I have. They did have metric (I congradulated them, and welcomed them to the twentieth cetury ), but they had nothing over ten mm. I need 12mm by 1.5 TPM. So it came as no suprise that they might have to be ordered. I figured even if they had some, they probably would'nt have enough.
Their supplier does'nt have them!.

Ok, so back to the shop I go. Anyone familiar with the company "MSC" (Machinest Supply Company)? Well their catalogue is about five-six inches thick!
They have studs in all kinds of sizes. But the 12 mm ones go from 1.25 TPM straight to 1.75 TPM...NO 1.5!!! WTF?!

Soooo, I need to know where y'all got yer studs.
I want to use threaded studs as opposed to the splined "pull-tight" inserts. With them, you have to pull the axel, and then you forever ruin the threads on the axels.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 07:20 AM
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I got mine at the local Pep Boys. They were the only ones to have it. It was about 1/2" longer and was originally for a GM. It was also one of the hardened studs, not one of those cheap silver looking studs. I just had to go searching through their stud bins. I've had no problems with them and have had them on the car for about 2 years.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 07:43 AM
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Mazdamotorsports.com $80 for 16 studs and lug nuts.

Ryan
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 08:14 AM
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80 BUCKS?! Holy Bagueezus!
I was expecting more along 2 bucks each.

David, do you remember what GM car they were for?

Thanks.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by Sterling
80 BUCKS?! Holy Bagueezus!
I was expecting more along 2 bucks each.

David, do you remember what GM car they were for?

Thanks.
Yeah probally 2 bucks each for the studs and 2 each for the nuts...

Thats 16X2=$32 studs
Thats 16X2=$32 nuts
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$64

Guess $80 isnt far off?

When in doubt on prices use the Mazda Rip Off Rule Of Thumb

Take what you think it costs and multiply by ten, if you want more HP triple again!
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 08:58 AM
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I found that ALL lug bolts have the correct 12x1.5 thread.

The ones for my SA's wheels were far too long to use with my steel race wheels. I didn't have any studs, and the Mazdacomp studs don't work with SA wheels anyway. So I went to the auto parts store and asked for 8 lug bolts with thread X long, and 8 more with thread Y long. (Fronts having to be shorter than rears since the fronts don't have to go through a drum) The guy brings out a whole collection and I choose which ones I need. I think it cost a total of $20 or $30.

I think the fronts were originally for a Pontiac LeMans (the Daewoo wannabe), not sure about the rears - maybe some sort of Volvo?. They all are 19mm hex so they're definitely not from a VW (17mm hex).

The MazdaComp studs will work with the '81-up cross wheels, it looks like. Definitely not the SA's waffle wheels.

All that background info said.... go to a junkyard and hunt down an SA and steal its lug bolts.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 09:45 AM
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Don't remeber what car they were for - just make sure you get the same knurl on the stud.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by peejay
I found that ALL lug bolts have the correct 12x1.5 thread.

The ones for my SA's wheels were far too long to use with my steel race wheels. I didn't have any studs, and the Mazdacomp studs don't work with SA wheels anyway. So I went to the auto parts store and asked for 8 lug bolts with thread X long, and 8 more with thread Y long. (Fronts having to be shorter than rears since the fronts don't have to go through a drum) The guy brings out a whole collection and I choose which ones I need. I think it cost a total of $20 or $30.

I think the fronts were originally for a Pontiac LeMans (the Daewoo wannabe), not sure about the rears - maybe some sort of Volvo?. They all are 19mm hex so they're definitely not from a VW (17mm hex).

The MazdaComp studs will work with the '81-up cross wheels, it looks like. Definitely not the SA's waffle wheels.

All that background info said.... go to a junkyard and hunt down an SA and steal its lug bolts.
I probally have some SA lug bolts, but it would be a major pain in the **** to find them. They are probally in a 5 gallon bucket full of bolts. But if you grease my palms with $$'s I might look for em...
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:10 PM
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**** when i got the studs put in on my 81 gsl they were 16$ including install and a locking nut with the key. just go to a large wheel shop they have all kinda studs
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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I paid $40 for mine... a racer got them for me at Mazda Comp prices I never used 'em though, since they're not long enough for SA wheels, and now that I have the FB, I discovered that one can use steel wheels with the factory FB lug bolts no problem.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:20 PM
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Make friends with your local Mazda dealer's parts guys. I got as many used ones as my pockets could carry for FREE. They had a whole bucket full of them to look through for condition too...
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:24 PM
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you can get the lug studs that are a little longer than stock at
www.jdwheels.com
They ran me $2 a piece, and I still have 8 left
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