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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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identify this model, "harder then expected"

ok guys... i know i know i know i know i know... This has been gone over again and again.. But i want you to all know that i did indeed search the **** out of this before i started this post. I seem to be running into some contradicting info. Ok here is the prob. I have my parts car 84 rx7 for sale in the for sale section of this site. And i advertised it as a gsl-se becasue i dont know a ton about these cars yet and it had a gsl-se badge on the back.... I really need to know what model this is!

I did check these things for refrence before hand. I first searched the faq section about identifying by vin and non of the links worked. I also found this thread..https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...identify+model where it said that if your vin has "all FB332 are GSL-SE, FB331 all others 12A" and i also found this.. on that thread. "easier way to tell is it has studs sticking out and using lug nuts instead of the GSL, S's lug bolts". I also found this thread which left me still confused too!! https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...identify+model


Here is what i do know...
its a 84
it has 4 wheel disc
it does have lsd
it had wheel studs and lugnuts NOT wheel bolts
it has cloth interior
it had a carbed 12a in it
it has a gsl-se badge on it
This is what the vin starts with.. JM1FB3323E0


thanks for your help guys.. Here is the link to my for sale thread for pics of it!
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generation-rx-7-1979-1985-vehicles-109/84-gsl-se-parts-car-57k-miles-858276/
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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The VIN indicates it started life as a GSL-SE. Someone must've swapped a 12A into it at some point.

Check if the rear discs are vented or solid. If they're vented, it still has the -SE rear end.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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I don't think that's an SE. While I'm not an expert on the S3, it looks like it has all the stock 12A running gear in the engine bay. I don't see anything to hint at the EFI 13B that came in the SE.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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Its a GSLSE. The vin # says GSLSE , the idle mixture pot is on the pass strut tower, the rad support has a hole in it for air box duct. someone just swapped in a 12A .
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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ah, that makes sense. Guess I need to open my f****ng eyes. haha.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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Right side radiator support has the hole for the GSLSE intake. Bracket for the GSLSE air box is still in place on the right inner wheel well. Vin is probably not wrong. I'd say someone did a fairly thorough job of swapping in a 12A at some point. Looks like 12A wiring, charcoal canistor, only 3 fuseible links. Is there an oil cooler under the radiator? Was there an engine in the car when you got it?

You were posting while I was looking.

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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 06:22 AM
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Just a quick FYI on GSL-SE and non SE models from 84-5. On several occasions I have either put 12a setups (complete) into SE chassis or the other way around at the customer's request usually becuase they had one go bad and had a better setup in a crappier car. The chassis for the 84-5 is setup to accept either one all of the hole are predrilled and threaded as needed as are all of the brackets that are welded in place ie for the oil cooler. On most of the ones we did you wouldn't have been able to tell it was done except for the vin number and maybe the suspension.

But as many in this thread have said the vin doesn't lie, it started life as an SE
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 74RX4
Right side radiator support has the hole for the GSLSE intake. Bracket for the GSLSE air box is still in place on the right inner wheel well. Vin is probably not wrong. I'd say someone did a fairly thorough job of swapping in a 12A at some point. Looks like 12A wiring, charcoal canistor, only 3 fuseible links. Is there an oil cooler under the radiator? Was there an engine in the car when you got it?
yea it had both the front mount cooler and the behive on it. Here is a pic of the motor that was in it before i pulled it.

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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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Just a quick FYI on GSL-SE and non SE models from 84-5. On several occasions I have either put 12a setups (complete) into SE chassis or the other way around at the customer's request usually becuase they had one go bad and had a better setup in a crappier car. The chassis for the 84-5 is setup to accept either one all of the hole are predrilled and threaded as needed as are all of the brackets that are welded in place ie for the oil cooler. On most of the ones we did you wouldn't have been able to tell it was done except for the vin number and maybe the suspension.

But as many in this thread have said the vin doesn't lie, it started life as an SE
Awesome! Thanks for your help guys i really appreciate it! Wow that is weird i cant believe this thing used to have a 13b in it and then someone downgraded and did a damn good job of swapping a entire 12a setup in there! Now i can finnaly tell everyone that this is trully a GSL-SE and not something else. Most people didnt believe me in the for sale section that it was a gsl-se because it had all the parts for a carb in it! Again thanks guys!!
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 02:58 AM
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The 12A kicks *** the 13B does too. I wouldn't call it a downgrade exactly. little less HP but they last longer on the higer revs from what i've read/been told.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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id a checked the fuel tank and fuel lines 7/16 lines are on the SE.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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Couldn't the dash have been swapped and an gsl-se badge just stuck to the back?
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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^^ NO.
As stated the VIN doesn't lie and it says it's a GSL SE model.
I originally asked junkrx7 to confirm that this was a GSL SE car because I didn't know the VIN at the time and it had 12a components in it. ie, choke, fast idle etc.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sevens4me
Couldn't the dash have been swapped and an gsl-se badge just stuck to the back?
nope..vin matches on the dash, door, firewall..
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by waysrx7
^^ NO.
As stated the VIN doesn't lie and it says it's a GSL SE model.
I originally asked junkrx7 to confirm that this was a GSL SE car because I didn't know the VIN at the time and it had 12a components in it. ie, choke, fast idle etc.
I think you missed my point. Who cares what the VIN says? Take a look at the attached pic, I just went outside with a flashlight, opened my SE, sat down and removed the defrost vent with VIN attached in literally 2 seconds...Will that vent only fit MY car? Couldn't I hypothetically just remove that vent and snap it into place in any fb? I'm not making ANY assumptions about the original poster's car, I've never looked at any of the pics. I just am pointing out that hypothetically the entire dashboard could've been swapped, or just the heater vent! Is there another VIN somewhere else on the car that would match the dashboard VIN? I would like to know as I am completely ignorant of if there are multiple VIN's and where they all are.
Attached Thumbnails identify this model, "harder then expected"-vinex.jpg  
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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Vin numbers are located on the driver side door jamb and stamped into the firewall on the right side.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by junkrx7
nope..vin matches on the dash, door, firewall..
Originally Posted by sevens4me
I think you missed my point. Who cares what the VIN says? Take a look at the attached pic, I just went outside with a flashlight, opened my SE, sat down and removed the defrost vent with VIN attached in literally 2 seconds...Will that vent only fit MY car? Couldn't I hypothetically just remove that vent and snap it into place in any fb? I'm not making ANY assumptions about the original poster's car, I've never looked at any of the pics. I just am pointing out that hypothetically the entire dashboard could've been swapped, or just the heater vent! Is there another VIN somewhere else on the car that would match the dashboard VIN? I would like to know as I am completely ignorant of if there are multiple VIN's and where they all are.
as i said bro. My vin matches on my dash, door and my firewall.. They dont just put the vin on the dash..

anyways.. this car is a gsl-se confirmed.. Now i just gotta figure out what model my 82 rx is lmao..
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by junkrx7

Here is what i do know...
its a 84

This is what the vin starts with.. JM1FB33 2
The "2" signifies fuel injection. Its a gsl-se
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