rotary_power4me

The owner doesn't seem too sure if it a S,GS,or GSL model. the reason why is because i want LSD for a turbo II swap. Can anyone tell by those pictures? is there anything i could ask the owner to look for that might identify the model?

Sorry if this post seems very unknowledgeable. I'm new to the RX-7 world and so is the owner i think lol.

It's a 5 speed with a moon roof and 12a motor

dwrx7

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I would say it is a 83 GSL model, So it does have the LSD.. I have a turbo II swap in a first gen.. Let me know if you need anything....

Rogue_Wulff

Rear disc brakes would be a GSL or GSL-SE (depending on year). The GSL-SE was only available in 84 & 85.

RotaryMelon

iTrader: (7)

from the second picture it looks like it might have the leather interior.. does that mean its a GSL?

dwrx7

iTrader: (8)

here is one pic for you...

Natey

iTrader: (19)

You could ask him for the vin number.

rotary_power4me

does it have the leters in the VIN?? or do i have to do a vin search on it?
He wants 2500$ for it so it seems like a pretty good deal. I don't know what the british flag sticker on the side is about?? lol

82transam

iTrader: (18)

If you could have him take a picture through the rear wheel (to see disks or drums) that would give you your answer. Otherwise its hard to say for sure since these cars are so old, anything could have been switched... Nice wheels, I like the color too.

vipernicus42

iTrader: (4)

Alrighty, let's start the process of elimination.

Doesn't have the bumper style of a 79-80
Doesn't have the bolt pattern of a GSL-SE

It currently has '83 "Limited Edition" wheels on it, not sure if those were on there stock or added later.

Other than that there's nothing in the pics that could identify which trim level it is. All you know for sure is that it's an 81-85 S, GS or GSL


Most likely it's a GSL or an '83 Limited Edition. If it's an '83LE, jump on it, that's a steal. If it's a GSL, still jump on it, the rims alone are worth min $400-500 in okay condition.


To narrow it down the most obvious thing is the rear brakes. S and GS had drum brakes, GSL had disc brakes.

Anyone who says the sunroof or the leather trim is a giveaway for trim level is wrong. My friend Joel has one with leather that's got drum brakes (GS) and I've seen a bunch of sevens with smoked glass, some from the factory and some acquired after (like my GS).

Jon

Rogue_Wulff

Jon, those aren't 83 LE rims. The car cannot be an 83 LE, as those were all silver outside, red (cloth?) interior.
It does appear to have had a badge of some sort on the rear roof pillar, which *could* indicate that it's a GSL. It also appears to be 81-83, by looking closely at the dash if front of the steering wheel.

chiefmg

iTrader: (5)

It isn't an S since it has the electric mirrors. It isn't an '81-82 as it has the brake cooling slots in the front air dam (can't recall if those showed up in '83 or '84). Looking at the seats I would hazard a guess it is a GSL. Way to tell for sure over a GS is if it has 4 wheel discs and a wiper on the rear glass.

rotary_power4me

awsome information guys! thanks, i'll update when he reply's

j9fd3s

iTrader: (3)

i see its got an 84-85 front end but its an 81-83 car. a factory GSL will have a rear wiper, which i dont see.

best way to tell would be just to look at it.

car looks nice anyways, is that black? or a dark green?

rotary_power4me

I was just reviewing the emails and he said it was repainted to britsh racing green, so it could still possibly be a LE ?? i hope at least it's a GSL

nick812

did the LE's come with rear disk? I seen an 83 this week with LE wheels and rear disk but no badges.

quimax2k

my guess is its either an 84 or 85 gs (84 or 85 due to the cooling slots in the lower air damn by wheels) gs well because like others have said no rear wiper and the power mirrors even though the mirrors could have been added by previous owner. but in any case i would have to say that it probably does not have limited slip. but still a nice looking car, and you could more than likely find a limited slip rear end at a junkyard or find a le parts car

rob

quimax2k

as far as i know (and i am sure that someone on here that is more familiar than i am will correct me if i am wrong) le's were produced (atleast in the states) from 84 and 85, yes they had rear disc and limited slip rear. if the 83 had le wheels on it then from what i know (doing a se conversion from a gs) the bolt pattern is not the same as other models so they more than likely just dropped the le rear end and front brakes on it but if they went that far then they more than likely also dropped a 13b or larger in it as well.

rotary_power4me

hmm had to read that one twice lol interesting thought. so i guess the other question would be what if it does have rear disks but no wiper blade?. then the only way to know about the lsd would be to jack the rear wheels up and see if they turn in the same direction?

How extensive is it anyways to drop in a LSD rear end? also i heard of welding it? or using this

http://www.phantomgrip.com/product_l...hp?make=Mazda#

But the note says :SE does that mean it converts it to a SE rear end or does it mean it will only fit in a GSL-SE ??

Mazdax605

iTrader: (5)

Limited edition cars were in 1983 ONLY,and never had rear disk brakes. The LE package was basically an upgraded GS with the moonroof,velour seating surfaces,14" mesh style wheels(not those in the picture,the LE was not a flat mesh like in the pics),chateau silver paint,upgraded stereo,and maybe a few other things I am forgetting. The LE was an open differential with drums,crank windows,no rear wiper,and no brake ducts(84-85 got the ducts looking vents). The LE shared the same bolt pattern with every other 12A powered car,but had the 14" size instead of the standard 13".I have no idea what model that car is,but I am pretty confident it ISN't an 83 LE.

Spyride

if the rear end has disk brakes then the chances are very high that its an lsd from a gsl

vipergts_3

iTrader: (9)

it deffenately has the cowl vent of an 81-83 (car in the top of pic)and the lower valance of an 84-85(car on bottom)
i have not seen any factory pics of 83's that i can recall with the slits in them .
how long ago had it been repainted ? the paint looks a bit 'foggy'... looks like either a poorly taken care of re-paint ,bad paint job, or alot of orange peel??
also , since the missmatched parts on the front egsist , has the car been wrecked?

rotary_power4me

So basically if it's got rear disks it's LSD and if it's drums it's a open diff? And i hope it wasn't in a accident lol

1983GSP

the 83 limited edition came with:
5- speed syncromesh manual xmsn
air conditioning
removable sunroof
chateau silver w/red pinstripe
aluminum wheels
cruise control
rear anti-roll bar
electric remote filler door release
electric rear hatch release
tinted glass with rear defogger
remote control mirrors
ignition key reminder
195/60/14 tires
day night mirror
body side moulding
dual padded visors with vanity passenger mirror
halogen headlamps
illuminated igniton key cylinder
quartz digital clock
light off reminder chime
intermittant wipers
reclining front seats
side windo demister
tachometer and voltmeter
storage box w/armrest in center console
digital am/fm/cassett w/7 band equalizer
power antenna
lumbar suppot drivers seat

all of which came to a grand total of 12,889 dollars and 00 cents

1983GSP

the 83 limited edition came with:
5- speed syncromesh manual xmsn
air conditioning
removable sunroof
chateau silver w/red pinstripe
aluminum wheels
cruise control
rear anti-roll bar
electric remote filler door release
electric rear hatch release
tinted glass with rear defogger
remote control mirrors
ignition key reminder
195/60/14 tires
day night mirror
body side moulding
dual padded visors with vanity passenger mirror
halogen headlamps
illuminated igniton key cylinder
quartz digital clock
light off reminder chime
intermittant wipers
reclining front seats
side windo demister
tachometer and voltmeter
storage box w/armrest in center console
digital am/fm/cassett w/7 band equalizer
power antenna
lumbar suppot drivers seat

all of which came to a grand total of 12,889 dollars and 00 cents

twinkletoes

iTrader: (17)

does it have power windows, or manual..does it have a rear wiper..only the GSL and the GSL-SE have power windows and a rear wiper...stock.