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Old May 20, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by bliffle
I think the gas is getting worse. I've been driving this 83GS since I bought it in 82, and my mileage has dropped from 22 to 16. Same driving style, generally smooth, with a light accelerator and brake foot.

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hmm thats odd, i was getting 20-22 from my 83.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by RotaryRyan
if im in fifth at 6000, im going like 90( i think, i dont go on the highway very often)
One time I was bored.

When you shift from 4th to 5th at 7000rpm, the revs drop to about 5600. Then I kept going until 5800 before backing off.

This is approximately 120ish MPH.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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hey, peejay. I was thinking wrong.I go like 90 in 4TH at 6000

I go alot faster in 5th.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by peejay
You really have no clue.

Gasoline is only part of what we use crude oil for. What do you drive on? Asphalt. Where does asphalt come from? Crude oil. What are you typing on? Keyboard. What is keyboard made from? Plastic. What is plastic made from? Crude oil. What are you wearing? Synthetic fibers. What are synthetic fibers? Plastic. What is plastic made from?

Get the picture?
But peejay...

Why is motor oil still $4.17/gallon at Wal-Mart? I swear it was $4.17 more than 2 years ago.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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Dayum, dropping from 22 to 16mpg? Seriously?

Not knowing the history of my car, it has 225,000 miles on the odometer. The trailing plugs don't fire (still working this out) and I'm getting 23-24 mpg doing highway driving. And I'm no saint, but being that it's almost exclusively to and from work, I don't rev up much either. An hour drive tends to wring any joy you get from driving out of you.

And as for the accessories...I wouldn't bother turning off the radio (though I don't have one) it just doesn't use enough to bother. The A/C, yeah. But mine doesn't blow enough. It seems cold, just I think the ducts are mostly missing.

So I ride with the windows all the way down, slouched in the seat so I can see out the mirrors, and roar down the road with my leaky exhaust.

Funny thing...my temp gauge creeps up past 1/2 when I turn on my headlights. And it's not the drag they cause because I've tried just popping the lights up, and no change in temp. I think my fan clutch is going...time to replace it. (No, not going electric yet...I have enough problems, not gonna create a new one.)
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Old May 20, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by RotaryRyan
hey, peejay. I was thinking wrong.I go like 90 in 4TH at 6000

I go alot faster in 5th.
Still not possible with stock gearing.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 10:05 PM
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I got an idea, telecommute at least one day a week. And that's precisely what I'm gonna do tomorrrow
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Old May 21, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by peejay
Still not possible with stock gearing.
Like i said, i almost never drive on the highway, so i was trying to remember.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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i'm reaching with these, but here's my contribution:

- get a better exhaust system (for those that don't have one)
- coat or wrap the exhaust system
- change old, sagging mounts (engine, tranny, rear suspension, etc.)
- K&N air filters

what do you think?

EDIT: also, what about converting to direct fire ignition?
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Old May 21, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by inittab
I got an idea, telecommute at least one day a week. And that's precisely what I'm gonna do tomorrrow
Great idea, but does nothing to increase gas mileage. Reduces fuel consumption, though.

Along the same lines, I picked up a Piaggio BV200 this spring. It's a big scooter, not like a Vespa but more like a small motorcycle without the center fuel tank. Much better fuel economy than my Explorer. Just not too practical when it's raining.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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OK, I realize that I'm going off topic again here, but...

Does anyone else find it the least bit suspicious that the oil companies keep saying that the increase is due to supply, or increased cost of refining, etc. and yet Chevron/Texaco posted a 33% increase in 1st quarter profits this year? Sounds to me like about the same amount that the end user's price has increased.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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My OT contribution.

I have to admit I have not looked at the quarterly reports from any of the oil companies. So I'm not certain to what they attribute the increase in profits. I'm guessing, though, that you'd find it hard to believe it's solely due to an increase in operating efficiencies.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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My best ever was 22mpg on the freeway at a steady 60-70 mph. My problem with the freeway is that nobody drives at 60 mph anymore! Everyone is doing at least 80 mph and if I keep up with the flow of traffic, i'm doing about 5000 rpms. The damn noise can get annoying, not to mention it eats gas. Before I start driving her again, I'm going to get a new 02 sensor and probably send the injectors off to be cleaned. From what I've read, these can help a lot.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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I love cruising at 80, worth the loss in gass mileage. Still I'm getting 23-24 mpg in my stock (all most) 85 GSL. Can't complain. Now Bush, that's another matter.

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Old May 21, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by diabolical1
- get a better exhaust system (for those that don't have one)


Makes huge difference.


- coat or wrap the exhaust system


Won't do anything except destroy the exhaust system in a short time (if you wrap).


- change old, sagging mounts (engine, tranny, rear suspension, etc.)


Probably no difference, but a good idea anyway.


- K&N air filters
No meaningful difference, although some people have conclusively proven that they don't filter worth a crap.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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Air filters would follow the same principle of tune-up (already mentioned).

A good thing to try is to avoid congestion at all costs, especially if you commute into a city. Leave an hour early or later to avoid traffic. I used to do this all the time when I worked in Bethesda MD and Baltimore MD. Take some stuff that you would normally do at home (reading, bills, grocery list or go to a bar to have a non-alcoholic brew etc) and try to accomplish this while every other poor bastard is stuck in traffic. Commute with someone if possible.

(BTW- for those curious about oil co. profits- they are reaping some serious cash but a lot of it is demand driven).

Oh and one last thing- cancel any high performance mod's to your seven! (Ducks from hail of rotten tomatoes hurled at my direction!! )
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Old May 21, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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My '80 when bone stock got 20mpg highway,

Street ported engine and freer flowing exhaust, it got 25+mpg.

'85 has stock port, no MSD, just a Pacesetter exhaust system. 26+mpg (I swear I saw 30mpg one time but I was unable to confirm).

Many high performance mods make more power by making the engine more efficient, which also increases fuel economy.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by inittab
I got an idea, telecommute at least one day a week. And that's precisely what I'm gonna do tomorrrow
So have them bring the planes to me? Hmmmmmm, my yard aint quite big enough.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by peejay
Many high performance mods make more power by making the engine more efficient, which also increases fuel economy.
this is soooo true ... (contrary to popular belief)
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Old May 21, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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Many high performance mods make more power by making the engine more efficient, which also increases fuel economy.

excellent. now I can almost justify shelling out about $900 for the RB dual primary system!
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Old May 21, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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Just remember if you abuse them you will get less then 20mpg
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Old May 21, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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I dunno- I once had a SP 13B with a Mikuni..Gas mileage? I'll put it this way- I got Christmas cards from Exxon for a few years

(and I was only joking about the mods BTW- but I am surprised at some of the comments of increased MPG!)

Last edited by Tom; May 21, 2004 at 06:55 PM.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Part of the trick is to jet it so that under cruise conditions an O2 sensor reads zero. Basically lean enough that it's a bit above the lean-misfire threshold. Then when you need to accelerate it needs to go back to normal power ratios. (About 13:1 for an N/A)

I dunno if the Mikuni has that kind of sophistication. Every report I've seen of it is that it is utter crap.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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I've not had much luck with tuning sidedrafts to cruise well. WOT they are great, but general cruising there's always a stumble (too rich more than likely).

That's why my next mod is a modded Nikki .
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Old May 22, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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my suggestion is not to do any transmission barking (downshifting to slow down) because then all your doing is burning gas to slow down.
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