craigw1

not much choice of wheels over here. As you know, the 4x109 is a bitch. I've posted before on whether to go for wheel adaptor or not...some people swear by it, others say no good cos of pressure on bearings, wobble, etc

so....over here I've managed to find a 7" wide 17" wheel, 4x108 with 20 offset. We also have something over here called a pcd bolt...basically has a flexible metal piece just below the head...means that I can fit this wheel no problem. I got the guy to put on a 205/40/17 tyre and mounted it on the front. damn it looked good in my opinion. quite pricey though...$1000 for wheels and tyres, fitted balanced and filled with nitrogen. Not a great brand tyre though...nankang...might go for something more recognised...pirelli or michelin.

Nicholas P.

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put some low profile tires on there. and you got your self a party


go for it, it looks good

lovintha7

we have a 4x110 and yes 2mm will make a difference. I don't think I would like to have "flexible" lug bolts. In that area of the car I prefer everything to be solid. What happens if you take a corner pretty fast and the heads break off? You'll be buying more than just rims and tyres.

I do like the wheels though. Try to find them in 4x110. If not you'll probly be paying more later. Do it right the first time. You'll find something eventually.

craigw1

4x110 just not available here. No other car manufacturer makes this size over here. all 4x108 or 4x112

anyways, didn't explain that pcd bolt correctly. Its not the head thats flexible, its like a flexible washer type piece below the head. Its only good for 2mm....hence i can fit the 4x108 onto my hub with these bolts. Here is a pic of them. Also known as pcd correction bolts. I looked on the web and see these bolts on ebay as well as advertised in europe. so people must be using them. Anyone have any experience with these bolts ? Most likely not because you guys have wheels that fit the 4x110 anyways so why bother with pcd correction bolts right ??

peejay

20mm offset with a 7" wide wheel will put the rims **very** close to the front springs. Wheels that wide need zero offset.

Think in terms of backspacing, not offset. The main limitation for 1st-gen wheels is contact with the springs in the front, and the stock wheels are *very* close. Backspacing is additionally measured from the *outside* of the wheel, as opposed to the inside of the bead, which is how rim width is measured.

So, stock wheels are 5.5" wide with a 1" offset. Half of 5.5" is 2.75", plus the offset is 3.75", plus the half-inch for the rim lip and you get 4.25" backspacing as the *minimum* you want to use.

A 7" rim with 20mm (3/4") offset works out to 4.75" backspacing. Racers use zero offset for 7" wide wheels, which gives a little breathing room for the tire when cornering hard. (You will still get a little contact depending on tire pressure and production tolerances)

Rogue_Wulff

I have 15 X 7 wheels with a 15mm offset. no clearance issues. The front fenders have been rolled lightly, and I have a rather low stance.
The Kosie K1 in 15 X 7 have a 17mm offset.
20mm offset may be a little closer to the springs/spring perch the 15mm & 17mm, but most all 15 x 7 wheels I have seen used on 1st gens with 4 x 110, are in the 12-17mm offset range. So, I would venture to guess that a 20mm offset would likely work fine. At most, a 5-10mm spacer may be needed to increase the tire/spring clearance if using with aftermarket struts/springs that are bulkier than stock.

peejay

What tires?

Rogue_Wulff

205/50-15 on Ronal 15 X 7 15mm offset. Here's a couple visual aids....

-xlr8planet-

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Word of advice: dont go cheap on tyres. otherwise, nice find

borinquen7

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I agree the rims are nice....
Question,, from what I am to understand I can put 4X108 rims on my GSL as long I get these pcd correction bolts? Is there a better selecttion @ 4x108...If this is safe then thats great more rims should be available to us..
Peace Out
Cruz

Hey look what I found...http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PCD-CORRECTION...QQcmdZViewItem

Rogue_Wulff

If using 4 x 108 wheels with these type bolts, be sure to get the appropriate concentric centering rings. Without these, keeping the wheels centered would be a royal pain, and cause of many vibrations.
Not my style, but many have done it in the past.....

craigw1

yep, the concentric ring you mention is called a spigot ring locator. I did a lot of research on this and spoke to various people in the wheel trade. What many peope don't realise is that the bolts only hold the wheel to the car. It doesn't take the weight of the car. This is the work of the spigot ring. In addition, the spigot locates the wheel centre on the hub.

trochoid

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Here they are called hub centric rings. Good to know someone understands this correctly

borinquen7

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are these rings available at any tire shop?
So what you guys are sayingis with these bolts and this ring I can fit 4x108 or 4x110 on my GSL ... I want a definate answer please...
Sounds like everything would work well together...