Getting some Eibach, RB, Tokico, Suspension Technique springs would help alot, and I personally like the Tokico Blue shocks if you are on a budget. I have them and love them. Get a front anti-roll bar, racing beat comes to mind and replace all your bushings and tie-rod ends in the front. A strut tower brace would be a nice touch too.

Then what you can do, for drift, is get some shitty *** tires, the harder the better for the back, and some really nice grippy ones for the front. This will allow you to swing the back around, almost on command and at relatively low speeds. Then as you get better and want to go faster, start to even out the balance of the car, use slightly harder tires up front, and then softer ones in the rear. Keep alternating, ultimately you may want a car that will push, but with some creative input, will drift on command. My ex-girlfriend's RX-8 is like this stock. It will push all day long, but if you are creative enough, you can get the *** to hang out all the way around a corner. She used to hate it when I drove it like that on dates... Anyway, a suspension setup would be the second thing on your list, the 5-speed sway should be priority number one.

Hard *** tires in the rear will allow low speed drift, but will also make the car corner like crap, so take it easy on the country roads with this setup...

Hope this helps you out.

 

thanks to evry one, i think thats all i need for now, but feel free to use the thread to talk bout the same stuff, im always checking in seeing if theres anything new i didn't know, thanks again

 

To put it in perspective my car is a 12A with the LSD swap rear end, stock motor-solid mounts, I can burnout and hold it with Sumitomo HTR-200's on my baby. my friend with an AE-86 could'nt even break the tires lose when he was turning all the way and just reving up and dropping the clutch. In my opinion the AE-86 with a GOOD driver would be pretty fast but i've never seen a vid with somebody in a 7 drifting so I dont know how to compare them. but me having seen both cornering I would say the 7 would win with equal drivers. but thats my opinion i'll have to make a vid sometime

 

http://korvideo.free.fr/200411/maitrise.wmv


good example of some speed drift technique in autocross. minimal slide only when it needs to be done but done for a reason.

 

Damn, I love a Lotus 7 (even a fake one)

 

That ain't autocross, it's gymkana; completely different sport, bad example. You HAVE to slide to win in a gymkana, in autocross your fastest when you go with minimal slippage. Even a spin-cone in autocross is fastest when taken with a small amount of sliding, unless you've got a particularly powerful car. Drifting is fun, it's neat, but on dry pavement it's far from fast.
Grant

P.S. lotus replicas kick ***.

 

Us Americans couldn't handle gymkana, it's too complex. Sometimes I get lost in a relatively complex autocross course. I think I would run over 3 or 4 people trying to do that, plus I'd leave my transmission on the ground at the first reverse section.

Great video, it's something I can aspire to.

I agree that in Autocross, minimal sliding is the best, but sometimes, the fastest way around a set of cones is a slight slide. Most of the time grip is your friend. At one practice event I tried to drift every corner, after the 4th corner I couldn't do it anymore, too much concentration was required, so then I just finished the regular way (doing 360's and smoking rubber everywhere). hahaha.

 

Now that's a stupid statement, don't you think?

 

No, not really.

 

Oh, but I do. Don't be another pathetic American with Euro/Asian envy.

 

That's fine, you are entitled to an opinion and I respect your opinion.

 

I agree

 

Alex, it's true. For the most part (from my experience at least) most of us Americans can't handle anything more complex than four left turns.

 

it seems this is just as touchy as the war. personally i'm glad to see some other form of racing, something a little more trilling than a circle run.

 

Dude, forget the mid-east. This IS the war

 

Now that is no way to begin a statement that you believe is true.





If it wasn't for people like the two of you, and you inferiority complexs', maybe this misconception wouldn't be so common.




--Alex

 

My inferiority complex? Just a minute. It's my FEAR of other people racing at the same place I am. I've seen people, from California to Michigan, and how they 'race.' Almost any person I've known is dead afraid to race a road course, becuase they think it's too 'complex.'

Misconception my ***. Go into your town, and ask five hundred people if anything more than drag racing is too complex for them. Tell me your results.

 

Which ever term makes you feel more comfortable.


So you haven't known anybody who races on road courses? If so, you are drawing fuel for your "FEAR" from the wrong demographic. Consulting people who are just as affraid of turning and foreign drivers as you are isn't the way to form an unbiased oppinion and conqure your "FEAR"

If a road course is to complex for you and your freinds, then you should stick to drag racing, but don't try to project your weakness onto every other person living in the USA. That's just stupid.


--Alex

 

Oh and btw, my town doesn't have 500 people otherwise I would ask.



--Alex

 

Well, considering the drivers I fear are from the U.S., and I'm from the U.S. . . . I wouldn't call them foreign. . . . .

Sorry, but I'm the one ASKING people to go on a road race, therefore, I'm not afraid of it. Remember, I'm the one offering advice on drifting, which definately isn't drag racing.

Anyway, AS BEFORE, just drop it. I plan to, and going any further is pointless.

 

I came from a town of few people as well, so I understand your pain (When I moved to a town of 20,000 and it seemed HUGE. . . . )

 

Then what did you mean by this..............

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Sounds like you're discouraging it to me.............

 

More words of encouragement..............



But is it road racing? Or are one of the few stupid Americans who can comprehend the complexity of both road racing and drifting?


OK.

 

Odly enough, I moved here by choice. After living in several much bigger towns.


--Alex