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Old 03-28-02, 12:58 AM
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(TURBO) TII swap into GSL-SE

my friend has an 84 SE and wants to put a JSpec 13BT in it. we were wondering, aside from the engine, what will he need to make it a success? id search but its down. thanks
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i am not sure, but i would imagine that you would want the tranny too. and ofcourse the alternator, wiring harness, and either the tII ignition or some aftermarket one.
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is the rx7 came with the 13b from the factory, you can swap with no problem the only problem will be is the wiring. si mo the same that my opinion

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eddie the engine might fit peachy-keen with the 1st-gen front cover and oil pan but you'll need to use the T2 transmission...
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Originally posted by peejay
eddie the engine might fit peachy-keen with the 1st-gen front cover and oil pan but you'll need to use the T2 transmission...
You don't NEED the TII Tranny, it is recommended though.
You can use the SE tranny (or even 12A Tranny) with a lightweight TII Racing Beat Flywheel and the TII counterweight.
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check out NOTA-V6's site, don't have the link off hand Ill get it later. He's putting a 13BT in his 85 SE.
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Click my car below.

I'm just getting ready to start putting things back together now.

More info is available at these fine sites, brought to you by insane rotary fans all over.

http://www.geocities.com/chris32472/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/turbof...portRows&tbl=2

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/turbofb/

http://turbo1stgen.rx-7.org/

MODS:Could we make this a sticky and let the other turbo 1st gen guys pile information here? This thread seems to be coming up quite a lot lately...

Thanks,
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Thumbs up

Well, after doing lots of research for my Turbo First Gen project, Let me put put some good Turbo 1st Gen Links up..

If I forgot some, Feel free to add more! If I duplicated some previously posted, then I am sorry.


David Lane's GSL-SE Turbo

David Randall's GSL-SE Turbo

http://www.fastrotor.com/tens.htm

Turbo II into first Gen with Factory ECU

TurboFB's (Chris) TII with Facttoy ECU into 1st Gen

Berny Hererra's Turbo Limited Edition

Mariah's page on Benny's Turbo first Gen

http://my.engr.ucdavis.edu/~pko/Projects.html

Andrew's 12A turbo

ITZweapon's Custom Turbo GSL-SE

Romeo's Turbo GSL-SE

Romeo's shop and info.

Ty Henrique's Turbo GSL-SE (Beautiful Body Kit)

The Hitman's NOT 20B 3 Rotor Turbo

Mazda Rotary Car Club of Florida - Good Info

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/mcgyver84/RX-7.html

Paul's 2nd Gen 13B into a first Gen with ECU (related)

Frank Muniz's Widebody Turbo first Gen

AJC13B's Turbo Series III powerhouse

Jim Linnihan's NOTA V6 - Turbo GSL-SE

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/S...otlight_2.html

http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/9116/index.html - Kinda OLD

Propane Powered Turbo first Gen

Mazda Racing - supposedly offer's Turnkey packages

Adsy's 12 A Turbo

Awesome 12A Turbo

1983 Mariah Widebody Turbo

Miscellaneous Turbo and Fuel Injected 1st Gen's

ECU - Motec

ECU - SDS - Simple Digital Systems

ECU - Wolf3D

ECU - Haltech

Intercooler ID Page - to figure out what you need.

2nd Gen Oil Coolers on a 1st Gen (might be needed)

RX-7 Forum Thread on putting a TII Tranny into a 1st Gen (important)

J-Spec Importers - http://www.corksport.com/

J-Spec Importers - C & T international

J-Spec Importers - FC3s.org

J-Spec Importers - Nippon Motors.com

J-Spec Importers - Jap Perfomance.com (half-cut cars too)

That should be enough to keep you reading for a while. Good luck, and post related info here!

FOR Turbo First Gens conversion Info

TURBO FB DATABASE

NEW SITE ADDED! - 4/27/02

SA RX-7 (first gen) with 13B Turbo HOW TO AND DIARY

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Ok now I see why its a sticky... A day late and a dollar short for me.. I could have used thise links a week back
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Originally posted by MIKE-P-28
Ok now I see why its a sticky... A day late and a dollar short for me.. I could have used thise links a week back
Mike, this is a relatively new thread. I just posted these links very recently (see Post date & Time).

I have been doing homework on this pretty aggressively for the past few months.

Hey, at least we can all benefit from it, and help each other that much more .
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Originally posted by Directfreak
Hey, at least we can all benefit from it, and help each other that much more .
Amen! We need not only to keep these old beasts in good shape and on the road, but also able to leap tall 3rd gens in a single bound.
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Originally posted by NOTA V6

Amen! We need not only to keep these old beasts in good shape and on the road, but also able to leap tall 3rd gens in a single bound.
Im not gunning for 3rd gens, Im gunning for Cobra Mustangs, well actually one in particular He's an ******* with a 'rotary engines are garbage' attitude. He said 'You will never be able to catch me, have fun reading my liscense plate' ******* has a plate that says RUNEXT on it ...
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BOOSTEDROTORS.. I did the swap with no problem it went in like a glove , My car is a 1984 GSL i have a 88 Turbo II J-SPEC engine in it from Corksport me and couple friends rebuilt and Streetported, chromed out the housings painted it gloss black had the whole engine bay painted gun metallic silver people love it everything pretty much goes in straight with the Turbo II tranny, just have to make a custom drive shaft and you better work on the rear end becouse i have another friend who did the 93 swap into a GSL-SE he broke the rear end it's alot of power but at the end people admire it when they see it, also good luck finding people who can re-wire it, i would just get the haltech also don't throw any 12A parts they are usefull.

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nice thread guys, i geuss ill add my lame photo link hehe www.photopoint.com visit rx7power then album *** some nice pics of where my rx7 is sitting
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Great Linkz.. ()utstanding!!!

br0.. great links..even though I have most of them..I think posting them was a great idea. I just notice how few turbocharged 1st gens there are out there. I've searched the internet for years but found only a handfull.
On a sidenote.. a friend of mines.. asked me to make him some clear tail lights for his 1st gen. If you guyz like.. I'll post the steps. The clear tail lights.. and a set of LED bulbs.. should give the back of the 1st genz a updated look.
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Anyone want a great attitude booster?! Go to Mazdaracing.com. If you go to the Videos section, there's a Carburated 12a 1st gen RX-7 beating the snot out of a Nova with a 302 and a brand-new mustang, with plenty of mods done to both!

I'm not endorsing street racing by showing these video's but it pretty damn cool. And the RX-7 kicks ***! You can see the horns from the carb sticking out of the hood.
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I recently dropped a Series 5 13B Turbo in my Series 2 and used:
1990 13B Turbo
Turbo 5-speed
Modified Tailshaft
13B series 2 crossmember
pre-pump, surge-tank, return-lines, high-flow fuelpump
Microtech MTX-8 Computer
Turbo_smart Boost Controller
Turbo_smart Type 3 BOV
frontmount intercooler with 2.5" SS piping
3" Mandrel-bent exhaust with SS turbosmart muffler
3" high-flow cat
plasma-cut plate for mouth of turbo/wastegate
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Dyno tuned yet? Do you have the Dyno charts? Can we see?

Mmmmm! turbo 1st gens...
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220hp at the rear wheels
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NICE SITE ADDED!

FOR Turbo First Gens conversion Info

TURBO FB DATABASE
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Hey all just got all the bugs worked out of using factory ECU, most were mechanical, Car runs like a champ strangly sounds like a TII Any way ill update my site when there is time for me to do so. Putting a 13BT in an SE is easier than any other model.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Directfreak
[B]NEW SITE ADDED!

FOR Turbo First Gens conversion Info:

http://www.geniusracing.com/RX7.htm
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A TII flywheel won't work in a SE or 12A tranny. If you use the smaller tranny, use the smaller lightweight flywheel, with the TII counterweight.

READ THE LINKS that have been posted. Turbofb.com combined with the yahoo groups turbofb list archives will soon be able to answer about any swapper's questions!

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You don't NEED the TII Tranny, it is recommended though.
You can use the SE tranny (or even 12A Tranny) with a lightweight TII Racing Beat Flywheel and the TII counterweight.
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Originally posted by faster7
A TII flywheel won't work in a SE or 12A tranny. If you use the smaller tranny, use the smaller lightweight flywheel, with the TII counterweight.
You are correct, but that is what I meant all along. My original point was that you don't HAVE to use a TII tranny for the swap (although I am).
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well if you are planning to use a 12A tranny or even a GSL-SE tranny, you better have bunch of extra ones ready and get really good at chaning them
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