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Old 11-29-06, 09:13 PM
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new to wolf, need help

ok, i'm new to tuning. i have no clue what to do.

Firstly, i have a wolf v4 i believe, the car won't start with the wolf, it'll start with the stock ecu (car's first start).

i will have time on saturday to start tuning, but don't know where to start. Is there any guides/links to where i could learn?

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Old 11-29-06, 10:17 PM
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Hi Silentblu just post up your map here and we can have a look at it and see whats going on. Also provide the model and type of engine with specs if possible.


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i gotta go to the mechanic and see which maps in.
for mods
rx-7 94, new motor i'd say less then 50 miles, mazda speed rotor housing, tII rotors
single turbo t04s, hks wastegate
straight pipe, downpipe, midpipe, w/ a tanabe exhaust. no wideband (gotta get one)
running stock map sensor (gotta get a 3bar soon)
greddy triple row fmic
mocal dual oil coolers
Koyo radiator
apexi twin chamber BOV
for the fuel its a lil complicated, they're 2x550 pri's, 2x850 sec's, and 4x550's third rail hooked up to go off with the sec's, there appears to be a leak when my mech's started it up.

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ps. would the v500 software work with the wolf v4?
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Thats surely some fuel there. So your have a engine based on a TII internals and a S6 extermals... is that correct? You are going to run into staging problems running so much fuel under stage. Go to http://www.angelfire.com/droid/wolf3dems/ and under tools download the Old V4 software. The V500 will not work as the map data is different. I wish I could have half that gear you have on your car What we need to do is establish what map you have in the ecu. Upload the map here and we can work something out. To dump that much fuel you will need a 4 inch exhaust too.


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hahha, even if i have all that gear, theres no point if the computer doesn't work =P.
i have the old v4, i took a crack at trying to learn it, the help file sucks...
the v500 software was just a lot easier to use, and seemed easier to learn.

well i have a 3inch straight through exhaust, my ultimate goal is to take 2 of the 550's out, and put 2 meth injectors in, been reading in the AI section, and its peaked my interest.

i will probably upload the map or figure out whats in there on saturday, don't have time, just wanted to see/start the ball rolling now.
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well ok, stopped by the mech today

i couldn't get the map that was on the Wolf to load up to my laptop, i could write, but not load. i'm not sure if this is it or not, but i tried to save it to my laptop and this is the map that i got
http://www.snapdrive.net/files/229339/11-30.zip

next i loaded a base map that came with the wolf v4 help files.
http://www.snapdrive.net/files/22933...ng_Map_001.zip
theres the map. IT STILL did not start though. i thought that was pretty weird. almost started ONCE, but didn't quite make it.

i uploaded one of your (michael smith's) map, forgot which one it was one of the t04r maps, but it still didn't start

i tried playing with the hand controller, didn't really understand programmin on that thing...

we plugged in the stock ecu, started each and every time (we were messing with the clutch), with a LOT of smoke

thanks for the help
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I had a quick look at the map it will not run because you haven't given values for ignition dwell and a few other things including sequencing. The staging won't work either. I will have a look at what can be done. I would suspect that starting with one of the basic maps and modify it.

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Hey try this

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Originally Posted by Michael Smith
Hey try this

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^ thanks in again for that map

ok tried the map today, after being so busy with other stuff. starts up, lil rough, like the stock ECU, smokes still. i took off the 4 extra 550cc injectors,

1.) any way to stop the smoking? it smokes up the entire shop after a few minutes of running, and we gotta give it a few minutes to air out.

2.) any other way to make it smoother? it bobs up and down around 700-800, seems normal for a single turbo car, but it seems to run fairly rough

thanks in advance
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OK did you remove the vaccum from the crank case? The factory engine management system takes a little bit if vaccum from below the throttle body and passes it through a valve and restrictor into you crankcase. This helps keep the oil drain free from your Turbo. If you don't have vaccum to your crankcase it will SMOKE BAD. I had this happen to me when I modified my throttlebody removing the damping butterflies. The TII (S4) uses this signal to Vaccum the crank case. I fixed my very bad oil smoke problem by picking off the large vaccum port and running via a oneway valve through a restrictor of 1/25 inch to the crank case.
My guess is that this is your problem too.

Also wind up your idle speed too 900 rpm this map has no idle control yet.


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can you point me in the direction of a diagram, i've glanced at the vac diagram and didn't see it

ditto on the idle control, i'm pretty newb at engine tuning
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Page F124 of the S6 (1994)manual has the diagram http://www.iluvmyrx7.com/ has a manual there..

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ok well we plugged every vacumn that we could find...

the car right now is flooded i believe, spark plugs are wet with gas, and wont' start -_-
i haven't been able to go to work on it for a while.

where would i go to turn down the starting ignition fuel? and what is an average fuel map? i think i'm running too rich

it still smokes, after we plugged all the vacs
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Originally Posted by silentblu
it still smokes, after we plugged all the vacs
make sure you didnt plug your crank case vent.
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Originally Posted by silentblu
ok well we plugged every vacumn that we could find...

the car right now is flooded i believe, spark plugs are wet with gas, and wont' start -_-
i haven't been able to go to work on it for a while.

where would i go to turn down the starting ignition fuel? and what is an average fuel map? i think i'm running too rich

it still smokes, after we plugged all the vacs
That map runs well on other engines atleast the early part of the map. You have leaking injectors somewhere. Pick up the line that goes to your brake booster and place a tee in it. Then run a line via a check valve (so the airflow is back towards the tee) towards the Oil filler pipe grab a 10mm bolt cut off the head and then drill lenght wise a 1/25 inch hole through it. This becomes a restrictor place it up the pipe coming from the valve. Now place the line on the TOP port of the oil filler pipe. The bottom one should be blocked or preferably run via another check valve without a restrictor to between the turbo inlet and air cleaner. The check valve should allow flow toward the turbo. This will stop any turbo smoking from oil buildup in the drain.

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haven't had time to work on the car.

the car is starting up pretty fine, i do not have a PCV currently, instead it is just a line running directly to the UIM. I'm considering eliminating it, and adding an Oil Catch Can.

The question i have right now is that for the wastegate i noticed that the top most openign was not used. The wolf will control boost no? like a manual boost controller would? so should i run a line to the wolf? the side nipple is routed to a vac line to the intake right now.

it appears that even at idle the wastegate is open? and constant boost is being produced. If we have the turbo pipe connected, it struggles to start, with the turbo pipe unconnected it starts up fine. idle is at 1,500 constant, for even 30 minutes.

today when we let it run for a while, the smoke disapated, but was still there. I haven't touched the car since the last message.

Doesn't seem to be leaking injectors, just a vac leak i'm hoping
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