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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 01:02 AM
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it won't blow over, imo it will just get worse. worse to the point where people will become annoyed to the point of protest or even violence.

the state wants to protect the people? pffft, this is about revenue and about the moronic TV ratings.... how does this involve TV you ask? turn on the news and youll see something about streetracing or import enthusiasts at least once a week, because it brings ratings and because idiots on their sofa believe everything that is shoved in their faces, not that it is untrue but because the media blows **** out of proportion like it is a problem. is it tragic? yes, but it happens. how do you fix it? crack down on the real problem rather than trying to inhibit it by ticketing people with nice cars because that will do nothing to solve the problem but it may make the idiot sofa huggers feel something is being done about it.


son't stop driving your cars, start asking questions like "why am i being ticketed while that big truck/harley/domestic over there which is 10 times louder is ignored?" if you cant handle the possible repercussions then be part of the ones who submit and park your car in the garage and bend over to the states will. people have been modifying their cars ever since the automobile was invented and will continue to do so, if they want to force people to do something else then people will do something else and probably more destructive because people need hobbies and i don't see why they should be punished for taking pride in that hobby.

**** off california!

and i've lived here for 25 years, if you want to keep my tax dollars in the state then quit being ******.

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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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Leave then Karack. Don't let our bear kick you in the *** on the way out.


I agree though about cops catching "real" criminals. ****, I know of 5 suspected rapists in the city I live in but I would rather give some punk kid a ticket for modified exhaust. That is how us cops get out jollies off; ticketing kids with dark tint and loud exhaust.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 03:11 AM
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i'm sure you do



i always found it kind of ironic you could buy a fast car but you cannot build a fast car.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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my friend has an SR powered 240. He parked his car at safeway and was walking in when a cop asked if the 240 was his. He said yes and cop told him to go pop his hood. Ended up giving him a state ref ticket. Cop asked him where all the street racing happens in this particular city. My friend said he doesnt kno cause he doesnt street race. Cop said"your driving this type of car and you dont street race?" i can understand all the crackdown on all the real street racing but my friend was going to safeway to buy stuff. Also, since when did you automatically become a street racer if you drive a fixed up car? thats not rite.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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my friend has an SR powered 240. He parked his car at safeway and was walking in when a cop asked if the 240 was his. He said yes and cop told him to go pop his hood. Ended up giving him a state ref ticket. Cop asked him where all the street racing happens in this particular city. My friend said he doesnt kno cause he doesnt street race. Cop said"your driving this type of car and you dont street race?" i can understand all the crackdown on all the real street racing but my friend was going to safeway to buy stuff. Also, since when did you automatically become a street racer if you drive a fixed up car? thats not rite.
i agree on that, well is a stereotype, for every stereotype there is a truth to it.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Good thing my s2000 is 100% legal under the California Vehicle Code. Not to mention I am a cop.
i'd sign all my own tickets off on that same clipboard they make you sign it...

i'd sign my name and then sign it off right then and there
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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honestly though cops arent as bad as everyone bitches about...9/10 if you're driving safely within the laws they're not gonna mess with you but if theres 2 cars speeding and ones a corolla and ones a lowered loud as car...who would you pull over?
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by robtechfabrications
honestly though cops arent as bad as everyone bitches about...9/10 if you're driving safely within the laws they're not gonna mess with you but if theres 2 cars speeding and ones a corolla and ones a lowered loud as car...who would you pull over?
corolla just for fun, lol

Also depends on the lowered loud car if it is a ricer or not... hmmm
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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depend which one is closure. lol
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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Rob, the answer to your question depends. If the lowered loud car is an import then you pull it over. If the lowered loud car is a Mustang, Vette, Camaro, Firebird, etc... then you pull over the Corolla.

I can't believe that officer asked your friend to pop his hood after he was already parked. I thought it was written somewhere that they can only get you if you are at least in the driver's seat with the car running.?.? Now he could've just waited for your friend to get back in his car and pull him over then, but still.

Reading all of this stuff makes me really happy that my 7 isn't registered in this state. I'd be royally screwed if it was. And one more vote for moving out of Cali!!! Anyone want to move to Florida? I think that might just be the next place for Rotorchick and me to live.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo95Max
my friend has an SR powered 240. He parked his car at safeway and was walking in when a cop asked if the 240 was his. He said yes and cop told him to go pop his hood. Ended up giving him a state ref ticket. Cop asked him where all the street racing happens in this particular city. My friend said he doesnt kno cause he doesnt street race. Cop said"your driving this type of car and you dont street race?" i can understand all the crackdown on all the real street racing but my friend was going to safeway to buy stuff. Also, since when did you automatically become a street racer if you drive a fixed up car? thats not rite.
in that case, i think they would need a search warrant. and since he is on private property, they would have to contact the owner of the property (the safeway) to get permission.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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That's why I always have to watch myself when I get pulled over. My first thought is to always get an attitude. Thankfully my brain works well enough to keep my stupid mouth in check 99% of the time. But I also get pulled over on a regular basis around here. I guess it's the full open exhaust and flame show that does it.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by robtechfabrications
honestly though cops arent as bad as everyone bitches about...9/10 if you're driving safely within the laws they're not gonna mess with you but if theres 2 cars speeding and ones a corolla and ones a lowered loud as car...who would you pull over?
I know someone who is over 30, picking his wife up from SFO airport in his 3rd gen when a cop pulled him over and cited him for absolutely everything he had on his car (turbo timer, exhaust, etc...) and then gave him a state ref ticket. He was driving perfectly normal in his car, and his car was montego blue, lowered a little with an aftermarket exhaust. Other than that, his car was fully stock.

I don't see any justice in that. If he was illegally speeding/racing/or doing something stupid, I would agree if a cop wanted to cite him and give him ****, but if he's just driving normal minding his own business and being responsible, then why is he still getting harrassed?
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo95Max
my friend has an SR powered 240. He parked his car at safeway and was walking in when a cop asked if the 240 was his. He said yes and cop told him to go pop his hood. Ended up giving him a state ref ticket. Cop asked him where all the street racing happens in this particular city. My friend said he doesnt kno cause he doesnt street race. Cop said"your driving this type of car and you dont street race?" i can understand all the crackdown on all the real street racing but my friend was going to safeway to buy stuff. Also, since when did you automatically become a street racer if you drive a fixed up car? thats not rite.
safeway parking lot is private property... i dont believe they can cite you unless you are parked in a handicap spot or management calls them. anyways your friend either shoulda said yea so what and continued on with his business or said no and walked away.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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he popped his hood voluntarily, he could have refused or denied responsibility and walked into the supermarket. however upon leaving he would have to be sure the cop wasn't waiting for him, of course now the cop would be even more irritated having had waited for him to do his shopping to give him his ticket. those are the few cops that make the rest look bad. and yes i agree it isn't right in most cases when you are doing nothing wrong like the story above, yes its a law and of course fu will say it is breaking the law but some laws should not exist... how the hell is a turbo timer an illegal smog device? come the **** on...
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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The question I have is, why aren't cops out there catching drug dealers and rapists instead of giving us tickets? Protect and serve my ***, that's where my tax money is going to
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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because drug dealers and rapists dont bring in revenue??
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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Guess I will have to register my car out of state... if everyone registered their car's out of state then the state would lose a ton of cash....
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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because drug dealers and rapists dont bring in revenue??
No it's because most cops are ******* *****'s who get a power trip when they get to **** with normal people when they otherwise can't do ****.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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I know someone who just got a "tinted tail light" ticket for his stock FD tail lights.

Fun.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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the thing that really blows is you can't talk back or you really get fucked up. tinted tails on a stock FD? gimme a break, and if he tried to push that they were stock the cop would just get annoyed and write more tickets for various other BS things.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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Can be legal even if Tails are tinted

The technical test is tails must reflect red. However, ever look at a Lexus RX430? The tails are clear/silver, but the RX430 is still legal. The exception that makes it that way? There is a qualifier that if the tails don't reflect red, there must be TWO red reflectors. The RX430 has a red reflector on either side of the rear bumper.

What you can do, and this has been tested and proven, is buy one of those red reflector license plate frames from Pep Boys as the frame is red reflective, and each of the screw covers are red reflective. So, technically, you have three rear reflectors. Or, just buy two red reflective license plate frame mounting screw covers from Pep Boys. Either way, your tinted tails are now legal.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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that's kind of a moot point since he mentioned he got a fix it ticket for stock tail lights. it is true that FDs tails do look smoked but they are stock like that but they ARE LEGAL! just idiot cops won't accept what some ricer has to say about it and just goes to show that cops don't even know their own laws. no skin off his nose, he's not the one who has to have the ticket signed off or even pay the bullshit processing fee for the fix it ticket that shouldn't have even been issued in the first place..

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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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Don't blame police - blame CARB

I was recently subjected to this and now my RX-7 is off the roads and only used for the track. Please don't make the police out to be the bad guys on this - they enforce, they don't create. The real culprit is the Legislature and and even bigger covent of minions called the California Air Resources Board.

I got my ticket, paid my fine (today, as a matter of fact), and my car is now relegated to Thunderhill, Sears Point, Sac Raceway, and Laguna Seca. It's better that way, but not for the reasons that CARB and the Legislators will boast about. Their idea is to influence social change through laws....and they provide their reasoning as 'get racers off the street' and 'clean up the environment'. Both of these are false reasons and a smokescreen...In my case, I didn't streetrace. I now drive a V10 truck that gets attrocious gas milage due to their rules (so I can tow the car), I will still drive the car, so it defeats their state purpose. This reveals the real reason - money. Regulating cars off the road and tightening smog rules forces people to abandon current cars and buy new - generating huge amounts of sales tax and higher registration fees to feed the gov't machine. The barter 'credits' from cleaner cars and sell them to gross polluter factories, so that the new 'air quality improvement' is zero. It's one of the biggest pack of lies the gov't is spewing right now.

And Fu, telling people to leave isn't going to help, either. I'm sympathetic to the job police must perform, but we need to tax base to stay, not leave, especially when the rules that are being set up have nothing to do with their purported intent. One more reason for businesses and smart people who are individualistic to leave our fair state, and we can ill afford it.

The best thing about it is the car was too damn fast for driving in uncontrolled environments - I need to be on the track to explore the outer limits of the car in a manner that doesn't endanger anyone who hasn't accepted the risk. I'm viewing this as an opportunity to turn the car into a real terror that allows me to burn gas and tires at an alarming rate as I scream around the track, thinking to the 9 panel CARB board....Kiss my lilly white butt!

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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cool_as_crap
in that case, i think they would need a search warrant. and since he is on private property, they would have to contact the owner of the property (the safeway) to get permission.
Even though they are private property, a majority of them still have agreements with the local police and the vehicle code is enforced. Look at the signs when you enter the lot. Most of them have it.
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