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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 10:15 PM
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I need to get me these lights! They look great guys nice work
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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That looks good, can't wait to install mine this weekend.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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They actually look a lot better astechticilly than I originally thought. It must be the sexy lines of the FD. haha j/k Definitely might have to reconsider.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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Look great...... Count me in if/when you run the GB again
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TRISPEEDFD3S
Hey Dan,

I still havent re-aimed them yet, but I do agree with you. I will be raising them soon.





Jeff your car is dead sexy! I really have never been a fan of silver but seeing your car in person made me change my mind! They look great, and yeah the aiming is somewhat conservative as far as aiming height. The instructions are a good starting point for L/R aim height but you can definitely tweak the height some since your car is so low. They look awesome on your car! (PS dont forget to send me the link to the LED's ) We gotta get a BBQ together after this rain clears up. -Heath
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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Thanks Heath! the last time you saw my car, it was lower, and without the wheels. She's got a new pair of glasses, and some **** me boots LOL!
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TRISPEEDFD3S
Hey Dan,

I still havent re-aimed them yet, but I do agree with you. I will be raising them soon.
The light throw in your pics looks great but are my eyes playing tricks on me or is there a big gap between the housing and the bezel in this picture? What's with that? Thanks for posting up all the great pics.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 12:25 AM
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might just be housing and FEED Cover LOL! I had to massage the cover to fit right, and also I kinda fucked up my housings already on the passenger side (i got too excited and broke something)....

I think you might be looking too into my car....The lights fit perfect, it's the car that is not completely aligned there...
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 12:38 AM
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I'm referring to the gap at the bottom right hand side of the headlight bezel. Looking at it again I think it may just be a result of the position of the camera. I guess I'll find out how they fit tomorrow!
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximum
I'm referring to the gap at the bottom right hand side of the headlight bezel. Looking at it again I think it may just be a result of the position of the camera. I guess I'll find out how they fit tomorrow!
No, the gap is there in a few of his pics but it is most likely the OEM plastic bezel that has warped. They get exposed to heat and twist a little. I had one twist pretty bad because of the oil coolers located right below. Nothing to worry about I would suspect.

Nice looking ride.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TRISPEEDFD3S
Man...WOW! What a mo*^%$$3ckin difference!

I might be wrong here, but isn't there an aiming problem with the lights? Not a kit prolbem but just an aiming one? Besides being too low as you guys pointed out, isn't the right hand light supposed to be aimed higher than the left hand one? I always thought proper aiming for HIDs meant you followed the line up from the left, or the line on the left goes across, jogs up for the cutoff, and the light on the right starts at this higher point and goes across?

See the below for the difference:



The lights on the left are 90mm HIDs and the ones on the right are stock FD lights. Notice how the cutoff line goes across, then up for the cutoff, and then uses this higher line for aiming on the right hand side? I don't see that in TRISPEEDFD3S pics although maybe I am missing something. If they aren't aimed this way, you give up a bunch of the HIDs benefits and that is to light up the right side of the road.

Hope this helps.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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Can you provide a source describing your headlight aiming technique? I don't claim to know much about the area but it just seems unlikely to me - I always thought that they should be at the same height but typical beam patterns are horizontal to the left and angle upward on the right and that's how you get the improved illumination of the right side of the road. Here's one thing I found http://www.rsi-hid.com/category_s/30.htm . That may only apply to halogen headlamps though. Like I said I don't know much about the area and I'd just like to read something from an official source.

Also, my lights came last night and they look great. Will install them this weekend. Thanks guys!
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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I think that his set of headlights just aren't aimed yet.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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I think that his set of headlights just aren't aimed yet.
David, the headlights in that picture look like they may actually be aimed a bit high. I can't really tell how far away the car is but the lights seem to be fairly high up on the wall.

Correct, Jeff has not aimed his headlights yet. He just installed them.

That's great to hear Max.... I know you've been looking forward to getting the lights for some time now We are working on finalizing the instructions and should have them up in the next day or so.

-Dan
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximum
Can you provide a source describing your headlight aiming technique? I don't claim to know much about the area but it just seems unlikely to me - I always thought that they should be at the same height but typical beam patterns are horizontal to the left and angle upward on the right and that's how you get the improved illumination of the right side of the road. Here's one thing I found http://www.rsi-hid.com/category_s/30.htm . That may only apply to halogen headlamps though. Like I said I don't know much about the area and I'd just like to read something from an official source.

Also, my lights came last night and they look great. Will install them this weekend. Thanks guys!
I'm no expert at this and the reason I brought it up was the above pic I posted and they way my Range Rover lights look:



I think it's time to go back to the Range Rover dealership to ensure the lights are properly aimed because the pattern is contrary to what Scrub has posted and what I have found on the net
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Please let me know what RR says or any DOT/SAE spec you might find. On your RR pic it doesn't look quite so drastic as it does with your 90mm HIDs, but I agree that does look like the strategy they pursued.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Here's a resource that I've used in the past...

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 01:11 PM
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just got mine in, i may install them today since its my day off, just curious why do we need to wipe the bulbs with the alcohol wipes?
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FD3S2005
just got mine in, i may install them today since its my day off, just curious why do we need to wipe the bulbs with the alcohol wipes?

Because they are straight from the manufacturer and we don't know if they're actually clean so wiping them with the alchohol can assure that you're installing a clean bulb. Atleast that's what Heath told me LOL! I asked him the same question my friend haha...
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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nice, now i may have to wait for others to install with pictures, i really dont want to screw this up.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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Why? It's HELLLA EASY! Then again, I've installed the Wise Sports HID Kit, and it's the same install...
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by David Hayes
I might be wrong here, but isn't there an aiming problem with the lights? Not a kit prolbem but just an aiming one? Besides being too low as you guys pointed out, isn't the right hand light supposed to be aimed higher than the left hand one? I always thought proper aiming for HIDs meant you followed the line up from the left, or the line on the left goes across, jogs up for the cutoff, and the light on the right starts at this higher point and goes across?
David I'm nearly positive that the aiming technique we have is correct... I'll explain my reasoning. DOT (US spec) lights patterns are very peculiar... they are not supposed to have sharp cutoffs and typically have a very narrow beam pattern (not wide/even light dispersion) like two little spotlights . European lights on the other hand DO typically have wide/even dispersion w/ a sharper cutoff (for example many people with miatas, including myself, swap out the DOT housings for e-spec housings [halogen] because of the better visibility. I'm currently working on some HID's that will be a drop in replacement for any 7" round housing at the moment, but that's in another thread ).

Anyway, the projectors we use have an extremely wide beam pattern. The reason for aiming DOT lamps lower on the left side is strictly to be courteous to oncoming traffic. A lower driver side will minimize blinding other drivers, while a higher passenger side will maximize visibility (and wont blind traffic flowing in your direction). This is basically a "patch" to fix the visibility problems associated with DOT beam patterns (two independent spotlights basically). Since the headlights we use have an extremely wide beam pattern, imagine aiming the left lower than the right (like you are suggesting). The lower beam pattern on the driver side should be more friendly to oncoming drivers... but remember the beam patterns are flat and extremely wide on these lamps. No matter how you aim one lamp, the super wide beam pattern of the "higher" lamp (passenger side) will still be seen by oncoming traffic.

Basically the short story is.... because the beam of each lamp is so wide, your limiting factor (height at which you will not blind oncoming traffic) needs to be accounted for on BOTH lights. Because of this, it doesnt matter if you aim one lower, the other one will still hit oncoming traffic. For that reason, these lights need to be aimed at exactly the same height... and the constraint limiting the maximum height of both lights, is the height at which you will no longer blind oncoming traffic.

We're talking apples (DOT pattern) and oranges (e-spec pattern).

You're probably familiar w/ this picture by now lol ... but for those who arent, this is just one of the projectors lit up. As you can see there is no distinct point to the left where the beam pattern would "end"
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TRISPEEDFD3S
Why? It's HELLLA EASY! Then again, I've installed the Wise Sports HID Kit, and it's the same install...
i never done anything like this did you use this Dielectric grease which im not even sure what that is, or the double sided foam tape, or did you use something else.. and how long did it take to install?
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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^Seems to make sense and thanks for posting this up.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FD3S2005
i never done anything like this did you use this Dielectric grease which im not even sure what that is, or the double sided foam tape, or did you use something else.. and how long did it take to install?
No I didn't use grease, but I did use the double sided tape to mount the ballast...ummm install for someone who doesn't know what they're doing should be about 2 hours....maybe less?
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