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12-03-02, 02:01 AM
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Originally posted by Mizeru
Yeah right! What do you call the new Nissan 3.5L V6 that's in the Altima, Maxima, 350Z, G35, G35 coupe, and I35???
Yeah right! What do you call the new Nissan 3.5L V6 that's in the Altima, Maxima, 350Z, G35, G35 coupe, and I35???
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12-03-02, 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by peacekeeper
[B]Most of you guys are just sick. period. You want to talk about weight. Here it is. All Engine, no accessories. Just engine and manifold.
3.0 Buick V6 350Lbs.
Chevy small block V8 350 575Lbs
Ford 5.0 V8 1989 & up 411Lbs
Mazda 13B Rotary 301Lbs.
Add 100Lbs to the rotary for everything that makes it work right and thats 401. add 40 maybe for those carbed V8s and you get the 5.0 mustang the closest to the rotary weight and the Buick weighing LESS. Which is more effeicient? You go with the 5.0 and you got awsome performance but the thin block and seal flanges and you blow it every 5 or 6 races. The buick will damn near last forever and the 350 you wont be able to screw with the mazda drivetrain because the drive train will go way before the engine will.
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[B]Most of you guys are just sick. period. You want to talk about weight. Here it is. All Engine, no accessories. Just engine and manifold.
3.0 Buick V6 350Lbs.
Chevy small block V8 350 575Lbs
Ford 5.0 V8 1989 & up 411Lbs
Mazda 13B Rotary 301Lbs.
Add 100Lbs to the rotary for everything that makes it work right and thats 401. add 40 maybe for those carbed V8s and you get the 5.0 mustang the closest to the rotary weight and the Buick weighing LESS. Which is more effeicient? You go with the 5.0 and you got awsome performance but the thin block and seal flanges and you blow it every 5 or 6 races. The buick will damn near last forever and the 350 you wont be able to screw with the mazda drivetrain because the drive train will go way before the engine will.
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12-03-02, 02:07 AM
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Originally posted by Rob XX 7
Once again, I say im not argueing on this anymore, its getting nowhere. Isaac only questions other people instead of he himself offering facts, and you get a little too pissy doing it to be quite honest, lol. [/B]
Once again, I say im not argueing on this anymore, its getting nowhere. Isaac only questions other people instead of he himself offering facts, and you get a little too pissy doing it to be quite honest, lol. [/B]
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12-03-02, 02:22 AM
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getting ready to do a turbo buick v6 in a 1st gen Dont be hate'n on people cause they have a need for speed and dont make 6 figures a year to support a rotary habit.
where do you want to meet up so I can get that title to that turboll at im in va. and i'll give you a weight break and do the run while the motor's still in my 3600# buick
I think setting you out 5 cars and giving you the kick would even things out a lil more
oh well jus talking poo poo since some in here dont seen to thing turbo 6's can run all that.
just let me know about that run if you want cause at 25+ mpg in the heavy sled I can travel
have to say howdy to my other buick powered brothers on here
oh man think I'm cocky now what till I get this motor in a 1200# lighter car
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12-03-02, 11:18 PM
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I'm sorry isaac but you are a retard if you think a rotary 13B Can run without the 78Lbs of electronics that make it RUN and be lighter than a buick V6. Yes it is with manifolds only but that V6 can take a carb that only weighs maybe 15Lbs. That is a friggen fact. If you want to waste your time, remove you ecu, engine wiring harness, ALL the electronic solenoids, and the wiring to your injectors, and tell me it wieghs less than a Holly 5Lbs aluminum double barrell carb. Just that harness weighs more than the carb, Bro. Like I said, I love the rotary but you have the cards staked against you if you think you can out drag a GN, It wont happen unless you spend 2500 on your rotary when the GN is that way off the floor. If I can find the time slips I will show you a stock GN with 12 sec 1/4, and one with mild mods in the 10s. Or my brother in laws 10 sec Trans Am (All Motor, on PUMP GAS) You wont see an n/a rotary run those time and still be streetable. Like the guy said, horsepower sells cars, but torque wins races.
Oh and yes $800, If you don't know where to get the parts, then you will pay way to much money on your car. I get ALL parts for piston engine for The price of manufacture. But I also get my heads worked for $100. You should look around and make friends with shop owners. Thats what I did.
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Charles
Oh and yes $800, If you don't know where to get the parts, then you will pay way to much money on your car. I get ALL parts for piston engine for The price of manufacture. But I also get my heads worked for $100. You should look around and make friends with shop owners. Thats what I did.
peace,
Charles
12-04-02, 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by peacekeeper
I'm sorry isaac but you are a retard if you think a rotary 13B Can run without the 78Lbs of electronics that make it RUN and be lighter than a buick V6. Yes it is with manifolds only but that V6 can take a carb that only weighs maybe 15Lbs. That is a friggen fact. If you want to waste your time, remove you ecu, engine wiring harness, ALL the electronic solenoids, and the wiring to your injectors, and tell me it wieghs less than a Holly 5Lbs aluminum double barrell carb. Just that harness weighs more than the carb, Bro. Like I said, I love the rotary but you have the cards staked against you if you think you can out drag a GN, It wont happen unless you spend 2500 on your rotary when the GN is that way off the floor. If I can find the time slips I will show you a stock GN with 12 sec 1/4, and one with mild mods in the 10s. Or my brother in laws 10 sec Trans Am (All Motor, on PUMP GAS) You wont see an n/a rotary run those time and still be streetable. Like the guy said, horsepower sells cars, but torque wins races.
peace,
Charles
I'm sorry isaac but you are a retard if you think a rotary 13B Can run without the 78Lbs of electronics that make it RUN and be lighter than a buick V6. Yes it is with manifolds only but that V6 can take a carb that only weighs maybe 15Lbs. That is a friggen fact. If you want to waste your time, remove you ecu, engine wiring harness, ALL the electronic solenoids, and the wiring to your injectors, and tell me it wieghs less than a Holly 5Lbs aluminum double barrell carb. Just that harness weighs more than the carb, Bro. Like I said, I love the rotary but you have the cards staked against you if you think you can out drag a GN, It wont happen unless you spend 2500 on your rotary when the GN is that way off the floor. If I can find the time slips I will show you a stock GN with 12 sec 1/4, and one with mild mods in the 10s. Or my brother in laws 10 sec Trans Am (All Motor, on PUMP GAS) You wont see an n/a rotary run those time and still be streetable. Like the guy said, horsepower sells cars, but torque wins races.
peace,
Charles
Oh, a Buick Turbo V6 can take a carb huh? Guess what, they make carb conversion kits for 13Bs too. So the 13B can be even lighter than the V6, imagine that!
Look back through the thread, did I ever say I could out drag a GN? Or did you pull that out of your *** too? Cool, your brother has a fast domestic, should I care about that?
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12-05-02, 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by Rob XX 7
Isaac you need help, its only a car, you act like you invented the thing.
Seek help while you can
What other cars have you owned anyhow?
Isaac you need help, its only a car, you act like you invented the thing.
Seek help while you can
What other cars have you owned anyhow?
Hey, there's is nothing wrong with being passionate about what you drive. But, I probably do need help. Lol.
My first car was a 1963 Chevrolet Corvan (Corvair van). It had a flat air-cooled six in the rear, very unique. After that I finally saw the light and bought my first RX-7, I have owned two more since.
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12-05-02, 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by BogusFile
No wonder you dislike piston engines. Your first car was a corvan!
No wonder you dislike piston engines. Your first car was a corvan!
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12-05-02, 04:12 PM
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Actually Isaac,
I do know how much the electronics weigh. HHmm As a matter of fact I weighed them before I put them in this RX-7. And yes I know there is carbs for RX-7s but its just as much for one of those as it would be to keep the efi and do little maods to the car. And you never said you could out drag or out race one but you insinuate through the whole thread that these engines are shitty and a rotary is some kind of god. Just throwing a reallity check out there that a piston engine in an RX-7 will get it faster for cheaper. drag or corners. It depends on how you set up the car.
No you shouldn't care that my brother in law has a fast domestic even though there were offers for races. But that car isn't even set up for drag racing anyway. He would want to race you through the corners.
But as the picture says, arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win your still a retard.
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Charles
I do know how much the electronics weigh. HHmm As a matter of fact I weighed them before I put them in this RX-7. And yes I know there is carbs for RX-7s but its just as much for one of those as it would be to keep the efi and do little maods to the car. And you never said you could out drag or out race one but you insinuate through the whole thread that these engines are shitty and a rotary is some kind of god. Just throwing a reallity check out there that a piston engine in an RX-7 will get it faster for cheaper. drag or corners. It depends on how you set up the car.
No you shouldn't care that my brother in law has a fast domestic even though there were offers for races. But that car isn't even set up for drag racing anyway. He would want to race you through the corners.
But as the picture says, arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win your still a retard.
peace,
Charles
12-09-02, 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by peacekeeper
Actually Isaac,
......And yes I know there is carbs for RX-7s but its just as much for one of those as it would be to keep the efi and do little maods to the car. And you never said you could out drag or out race one but you insinuate through the whole thread that these engines are shitty and a rotary is some kind of god. No you shouldn't care that my brother in law has a fast domestic even though there were offers for races. But that car isn't even set up for drag racing anyway. He would want to race you through the corners.
But as the picture says, arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win your still a retard.
peace,
Charles
Actually Isaac,
......And yes I know there is carbs for RX-7s but its just as much for one of those as it would be to keep the efi and do little maods to the car. And you never said you could out drag or out race one but you insinuate through the whole thread that these engines are shitty and a rotary is some kind of god. No you shouldn't care that my brother in law has a fast domestic even though there were offers for races. But that car isn't even set up for drag racing anyway. He would want to race you through the corners.
But as the picture says, arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win your still a retard.
peace,
Charles
Once again, I don't care how fast it makes the car. That is not the basis for my argument. My argument is that anything other than a rotary doesn't belong in an RX-7. Period. If you don't like the rotary, don't buy an RX-7. They are one in the same.
Takes a retard to know a retard, huh Charles?
Isaac
P.S. A carb conversion kit for a 1984-92 6 port 13B ("Holley Intake System Kit" from Racing Beat #18045)
costs $860.00. But that is for a brand new one, ever heard of buying used? How much do your "simple EFI mods" add up too? Care to elaborate on those mods?
12-09-02, 02:25 AM
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Originally posted by BlackSport0187
There you go making up things again Charles. I never insinuated that the engines were shitty, not even close to that. But I did say that they don't belong in RX-7s, and that by swapping one in you are taking the easy way out. "The rotary is too complicated for me, so I'll shove a V8 or V6 in there! Yee-hah!" That sort of stuff.
Once again, I don't care how fast it makes the car. That is not the basis for my argument. My argument is that anything other than a rotary doesn't belong in an RX-7. Period. If you don't like the rotary, don't buy an RX-7. They are one in the same.
Takes a retard to know a retard, huh Charles?
Isaac
P.S. A carb conversion kit for a 1984-92 6 port 13B ("Holley Intake System Kit" from Racing Beat #18045)
costs $860.00. But that is for a brand new one, ever heard of buying used? How much do your "simple EFI mods" add up too? Care to elaborate on those mods?
There you go making up things again Charles. I never insinuated that the engines were shitty, not even close to that. But I did say that they don't belong in RX-7s, and that by swapping one in you are taking the easy way out. "The rotary is too complicated for me, so I'll shove a V8 or V6 in there! Yee-hah!" That sort of stuff.
Once again, I don't care how fast it makes the car. That is not the basis for my argument. My argument is that anything other than a rotary doesn't belong in an RX-7. Period. If you don't like the rotary, don't buy an RX-7. They are one in the same.
Takes a retard to know a retard, huh Charles?
Isaac
P.S. A carb conversion kit for a 1984-92 6 port 13B ("Holley Intake System Kit" from Racing Beat #18045)
costs $860.00. But that is for a brand new one, ever heard of buying used? How much do your "simple EFI mods" add up too? Care to elaborate on those mods?
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I join this club thinking everyone was free thinking. i'm building a hybrid bastard. i guess i should of expected less. i got the car from a deal. i love the awesome handling.
to the main topic, i'm doing the same conversion but with a 5.0. i paid for the kit and finally got the conplete 5.0 setup. the only problem that you'll have is if your from cali then the smog is your concerned. keep in mind the motor your putting in is from a truck, if i were you i'd check you local referee from from the Bureau of Automotive Repair. i'm pretty sure you have to stick with same class vehicle. if you have any question, hit me up. if any one wants to come to san diego and raise a wrench instead of their fist than hit me up.
to the main topic, i'm doing the same conversion but with a 5.0. i paid for the kit and finally got the conplete 5.0 setup. the only problem that you'll have is if your from cali then the smog is your concerned. keep in mind the motor your putting in is from a truck, if i were you i'd check you local referee from from the Bureau of Automotive Repair. i'm pretty sure you have to stick with same class vehicle. if you have any question, hit me up. if any one wants to come to san diego and raise a wrench instead of their fist than hit me up.
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Yeah. I know this thread was long dead. So what? I read all 4 retarded pages and like, 8 other threads with similar retarded posts. So I felt like contributing my retarted .02 cents:
Mazda intended the RX7 to be one way: the way they were sold, stock.
One guy slaps a bigger turbo on and shims his tie-rods and upgrades his fuel system and throws some coilovers on there. The other guy takes out the motor and puts in a different one. You're all bastardizing the car. If you flame on someone for putting a piston motor under the hood of an RX7 then you're just a rotary fanboy that can't see anything EVER going into the car that isn't rotary... because... uh... it isn't a rotary... and... that's the only reason.
Mazda intended the RX7 to be one way: the way they were sold, stock.
One guy slaps a bigger turbo on and shims his tie-rods and upgrades his fuel system and throws some coilovers on there. The other guy takes out the motor and puts in a different one. You're all bastardizing the car. If you flame on someone for putting a piston motor under the hood of an RX7 then you're just a rotary fanboy that can't see anything EVER going into the car that isn't rotary... because... uh... it isn't a rotary... and... that's the only reason.
