digitalsolo

iTrader: (2)

Well, having a custom tank fabricated is easy if ya know people. I have most of my overflow, oil storage, PCV and other things done by friends out of scrap metal and a few mail order from Summit bungs. Realistically, modifying the pan for AN fittings is a pretty simple operation too.

I guess the difficulty/price of the swap depends on how much you can fabricate yourself, or have fabricated for you for free/cheap. Even a reluctor wheel swap isn't a particularly big deal, once you get past the whole tearing into a 13K dollar brand new engine part.

And who the hell told you about my Aunt Roger?

wingsfan

I didn't say it was hard or complicated. It's still not something that someone looking for a "kit" solution will want to tackle. There are plenty of dry sump tanks that could be adapted if that's what someone wanted to do.

I can weld aluminum just fine and I'm not tackling it. Jim's fabricator can weld aluminum better than I can ever dream of doing, and he's not tackling it either.

I gotta say I could give a **** about your opinion on this matter.

I could give a **** about whether you're broke or crap money. Likewise for your age.

What I do care about is that you seem to run your mouth quite a bit about how easy things are, when they're not for Joe average swapper.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you didn't make your engine cradle you're using, despite the fact that cradles are relatively easy to make if you can weld. Without your family ties how easy would all the fabrication be?

But since you brought up money...which is the only thing holding you back from your super duper twin turbo setup you could snap together if only you had Jim's bankroll...why are you bitching about the costs to trailer an FD chassis from MD to IN in one breath and telling me how not broke you are in the other?

Care to wager on whether you drop an LS7 into your car "in the next 8 months", since it's so easy, and only a moderate investment?

It's an alternator bracket away, and a new pulley on the PS pump if that's what you want. That's so not my point though. Again, it comes back to whether you're looking for a "kit" solution or not. Most people here are.

Again, anything's possible with money time and effort. Do you really think that the type of person that asks if the swap is possible is the type of guy that's going to run out to the garage and fab up a cradle and the stuff he needs for his oiling system? I didn't think so either.

digitalsolo

iTrader: (2)

Glad to see we hold the same opinion of each other on this matter then.

You're correct, I didn't. For the price of the cradle and parts, I didn't see the point. I think I paid something like 229 dollars for everything. Just because I can do something doesn't make it the most effective use of my limited time. A concept I'm sure you're familiar with. I did have to cut and rework the unit I had to fit the LS1. Woo.

I never said that I couldn't AFFORD to have the FD shell shipped here, it's rather the fact it would be upwards of 1000 dollars for a bare shell makes it not worth the price of admission. If he was within driving distance, I'd pick it up for 200 dollars, which is a decent price. Add 600-700 dollars shipping and it's not such a good price.

A set of small twins would fit easily in an FC engine bay, especially if I went without an I/C and injected alcohol or ran an A/W setup. I know they don't fit easily in an FD bay, and I greatly respect the project you had worked on to attempt it. A fact I've mentioned before. I think it can be done in the FD engine bay, and with time/money I could setup the system. The post I offered it on was to give my friend Rick a hard time, never meant to ruffle your feathers.

I said a substantial investment, and I'd be happy to make that wager, as long as I'm on the "not going to happen" side. I bought a house 6 months ago, 2 new cars, and recent acquired a fiancee which will be being upgraded to a wife soon. I could probably swing the LS7, but being neutered by the new wife is not high on my list of priorities, so I'll likely either go F/I or 402 vs. the LS7. I don't rule anything out though.

I don't disagree with you at all on this either. I was simply stating that it COULD be done, and the things necessary to do it are NOT rocket science by any means. If you can build a kit car, you can pull off an LS7 swap. Connections and abilities simply adjust what your investment would be.

jimlab

I don't remember anyone saying that they were.

However, it's obvious that all you're really trying to do is belittle anything associated with me or my project. Who did you think you were fooling?

http://www.torquecentral.com/showpos...5&postcount=15

wingsfan

Yup. To steal a line from Jim...Feel free to go eat a bag of ****.

Exactly. There was a bolt-on solution so you used it. That's what 99.99% of the people here are asking about.

Goody for you. Most here can't.

Whatever. You bring up your wallet, or lack thereof, alot. That was my point. That, and that you wouldn't be attmepting an "easy" swap with a $13K crate motor.

No ****. You still haven't done it.

Thanks.

Key word is that you "think". Obviously they will if you're willing to completely hack the car like Hinson did. I'm not. I want a better setup than that.

Ever think you shitting on a friend might be what has my "feathers ruffled"?

http://www.torquecentral.com/showpos...5&postcount=15

Suggesting the reason I'm not welding my oil pan is because I don't know what I'm doing might have a little something to do with it too.


Good for you, congratulations, yada yada yada.

You know what my point was. It won't be an "easy" swap, fabrication wise or financially. Given the current expense I'd be surprised to see more than 2 or 3 attempted. Mine won' t even be an "LS7", it'll just borrow a few parts here and there.



Look at the first post. Not to take anything away from him, as I've no idea what his skillset is, but does that strike you as the kind of question a guy that's going to run off to his garage and fab up a dry sump tank or an engine cradle asks?

As for the other 99% of people looking at doing swaps, they want a bolt in solution. Most are comfortable turning a wrench here or there and that's it. Ask them to measure, cut and weld, choose materials, etc. and most will balk. You're trying to make it sound like it's a walk in the park.

digitalsolo

iTrader: (2)

So the short is your panties are in a bunch over Jimlab, and thus your meagerly attempting to tear apart my points.

I didn't insult Jim, or say anything that wasn't true. He has an attitude, and you're welcome to continue humping his leg as you see fit.

I say good day.

wingsfan

No, my panties are in a wad because you're a carbon copy of the same know it all 20 something that I've become sick of over the last couple years. You're just not into drifting.

Yeah. Meagerly. My points are valid. If you want to write them off becuase I'm friendly with Jim so be it. I don't need your opinion to validate my objectivity.

Please, it's plenty insulting.

As do you. Apparently you think you're special because one of your relatives can ride a bike.


That the best you can do?

Go **** yourself.

Henessey

basically. and the fact that GM underrated the engine means it puts out 550 some odd hp. and 505 whp.

that should satisfy anyones rx7 belly.

Nihilanthic

I just love this... buncha braniac gearhead geeks who have clearly been subscribers to "reader's digest" having a pissing contest and privately guffawing at eachother.

I bet jimlab even owns a modest but well stocked wine cellar, some aged cheese and a monacle&tophat.

Hawhawhawhaw.

Also, if the NA LS7 makes that much power already, "jesus christ" is all I have to say.

wingsfan

Those nickles reproduce yet?

I see you have a new plan of the month. You're just as bad as the rest of us.
http://www.torquecentral.com/showthread.php?t=33620

digitalsolo

iTrader: (2)

You're the one arguing over the internet with the 20 something idiot.

The worst part about it? You've yet to make a point that would pass in an actual debate. You would however, make an excellent politician, arguing around points is a skill lost on most people. You tear on Nihil, but you argue in the same manner that he does.

Regardless, we can go on with this forever, think what you will, your opinion really has no bearing on me. Cue your quintessential glib reply, I'm done with this.

LT1-10AE

Sounds like my sister's kids in here.

Stop with the bickering (I know who started it) or a one week ban from here. That's warning number one.

I think everyone involved needs to read the rules that's stickied in this forum.

wingsfan

jimlab

I think this forum needs a moderator who isn't as concerned with catering to his buddies from Torque Central or locking down threads for no real reason, but that's just my opinion...

LT1-10AE

No, this forum needs more tech talk and less attacks. That's not an opinion.

jimlab

I think you're confusing the role of moderator with the role of activity director.

It's not your job police what people talk about, if they're not tearing out each other's throats. It's not your job to arbitrarily lock threads when the discussion varies from the thread title. And it's certainly not your job to remove pertinent information from public view, solely because you had a good experience with Grant/Granny's.

I contribute technical information and donations to this forum, and he doesn't. Unless you got something in return for that little favor, the choice should have been clear who should have gotten primary consideration. It was a poor decision, but your handling of the situation afterward was worse. That's not an opinion, that's fact.

Your sole purpose in this sub-forum should be to police the people who disrupt the peace. If you don't understand that, I suggest taking Forum Moderation 101 over again.

LT1-10AE

I think you're the one that's confused.

I do not police WHAT people talk about, I police the direction the threads go so they don't turn to crap. I did not remove pertinent information from public view. EVER HEARD OF THE SEARCH FUNCTION? Hmm... seems like that's what you cry when someone asks a question. It's still there.

Your ratio of technical information vs. belittling and attacks needs work. I know how you work. You do it on purpose and have told others about it.
You pick someone out you don't like
You poke fun at them in every thread you run across until they lose it
You then report the post claiming that person is "attacking you"

Obviously, I'm on your list because this is not the first time I've seen the "You're getting paid by Grant for unstickying my thread" comment.

I'm not going to answer the mysterious question with a yes or no answer just because it gets under your skin and you think you have ammo to attack me with. See, there's a difference between attacking me versus a regular member. You can be yourself and follow your plan outlined above on regular members in other areas, but it will not fly with me or this forum section. If you attack others, or myself in this section - I'll see to it that you cannot access this area.

Just because you make a donation to this board, it does not mean you are an exception to the rules everyone else follows. You are not special. You just belong to a group of people who have donated to the board.

Thanks. I've been keeping my eye on you and a couple of others for a while now.

If you don't understand what I've said, check this out to refresh your memory: https://www.rx7club.com/other-engine-conversions-non-v-8-118/everyone-read-other-engine-conversion-forum-rules-400819/

jimlab

Yes, you do.

Yes, you did, and you still haven't provided a valid justification for it.

Then you're probably aware that I haven't flamed anyone on the RX-7 Club forum in months and apparently just felt the need to make an empty threat out of pure childishness.

It's becoming increasingly apparent that you don't have the qualifications to be an impartial or effective moderator, so I've taken the liberty of bringing that up with Ryan. You seem to enjoy spending more time over at Torque Central than doing any actual moderating here anyway, so maybe that's for the best.

LT1-10AE

Show me. Where's the proof? I'm not childish enough to step down to a "Yes you do - No I don't - Yes you do" argument.

It is not hidden from public view. If you're too lazy to reach up and use the search function, you can scroll down and see the thread is still on the first page of threads in this forum.

I have noticed this. Of course, you've really only posted in this section as of late and your cradle thread over in the group buy section. I'm not a newcomer to the RX-7 world nor performance cars in general. I've seen several of your posts over several years and yes, I am keeping my guard up and keeping an eye on you. The funny thing is, out of all the forums and mailing lists we both belong to, this one and TC (Which you recently left) were the only ones you really went off on people at. Face it, you've got a history of being disruptive here and unfortunately it's going to stay with you for a while until others feel safe from your outbursts.

It's difficult to be impartial when someone with a known history of distruption (and 42 threads concerning them in the moderators section) gets upset because something was done they disapprove of AND is a target for said disruptor.

Bring it up with whomever you'd like. Has it ever occurred to you that the volume of posts and information regarding V8 swapped cars is higher over there and that I personally know several of those members and visit them regularly?

wingsfan

Let's see. From some standard bickering You saw fit to create a whole new thread...just to display as an example of how we shouldn't act. You could have just fixed the problem, instead you opt for the "scolding parent" routine.

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...2&postcount=35

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...25&postcount=1



Telling the thread starter to get on topic in his own thread. A personal favorite.

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...6&postcount=63

Of course, that was a few days after you'd added this wonderfully "on-topic" nugget.

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...8&postcount=38

Then there's this interchange...that I will always cherish...where you told me directly that you were in fact the director of OEC programming.

And of course, the piece de resistance

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=115

Of course, that was only a week after you offered this in regards to another vendor who sells a speedometer converter cable.

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...19&postcount=4

And the distinction between that and Granny's selling cradles that didn't fit to people (Jim, Bill Hagen, CDK4219, etc.), not refunding their money, or returning Jim's parts was what?

Oh yeah, three years had passsed...Makes perfect sense to me that you would take down the "old"" information where the vendor has had some shady transactions.

Of course you're also running a Granny's cradle and aren't providing a reasonable explanation as to why, so you look shady.

I'm sure Jim's well aware that he left TC.

Thing is, you're doing exactly what you claim you're not. The whole point of adding you as a moderator was to counter the biased moderation that Evil Aviator was providing. I guess that worked.

I don't trust your objectivity at all. I'd like to see you step aside and let someone else have a turn at the wheel (and no, I don't want the job).

LT1-10AE

Were you privy to the PMs and emails from participants in that thread wanting it cleaned up? No. I split the thread and left it as an example because apparently some people cannot read and comprehend rules.

Did you see me quote the thread starter when I made that reply? I didn't.

...and a few days before it got wildly offtopic and still in transmission discussion.

That was classic humor and a great way to close an out of hand thread. If you fail to find the tongue-in-cheek humor in that quote, you should seriously seek professional help.

Yup.

Well, I'm sure if the vendor in question works on his speedometer adapter design it will get better. It's just not ready for primetime. In three years will his prototype hurdles matter? Not really.

Old information as stated before. Hell, a few years ago RX7Store didn't have the best reputation, but they seem to be doing just fine now. Every business has hurdles to overcome.

I've been running a Granny's cradle since December '04. Why? Because I run an LT1 and wanted a prefab solution. They were the only provider for what I was looking for.



I would hope so. I was stating that for the benefit of those reading that aren't aware of the situation.

That's where you're wrong. Evil Aviator was tired of the BS with the rotary vs. piston wars and was contemplating having this section shut down completely. If I hadn't volunteered here, this section would be gone by now.

It seems to me that you and Jim are the only ones who feel that way. You two seem to run in your own little pack. When one of you was fed up with TC, you made a "brother pact" with each other to delete all of your respective posts over there and run away.

Is it time to boycott this site too? Feel free.

wingsfan

No, and I don't pretend to be either. The pious display of "how you shouldn't act was over the top.
And that changes? You addressed everyone, despite your participation in the off-topic conversation.

Still off-topic. You didn't address "wildly" off-topic. So mildly off topic is OK, but wildly is not? And you locked that thread why? Because it couldn't progress any further? Because I questioned you? Because you felt like flexing what little e-muscle you have?
It was hardly out of hand. And it's not classic when you're the only one tha tthinks it's funny.

So Grant ripping people off and selling cradles that didn;t fit were just prototyping problems?

Yeah, and I though RX7 store censoring their negative posts were BS back then too.

Hurdles like refunding money or returning parts?

I don;t have an issue with you running a Granny's cradle. I could care less what cradle you run or why you run it. I have an issue with you unstickying a thread that was meant to point out past unscrupuolous behavior. It simply looks shady that you unstickied it out of the blue..and you happen to be running one of his cradles.

You could have started your own thread detailing your positive experience as an alternative to removing still relevant information.

I think everyone is well aware of that by now.

I'm not wrong. I was around complaining about the moderation back then too. I know what the cricumstances were.

Don't put your arm out of socket patting yourself on the back there champ. I offered my services at the same time you did. You weren't the only one to step up. The subforum wasn't ever in any real danger, especially when there's a need to keep the pro-piston threads out of the generation specific subforums.

We're not. We're just more vocal than others.

I wouldn't go that far. But i consider Jim a friend and we exchange ideas and conversation on a regular basis.

Gee, couldn't have anything to do with us both being directly involved in the final event precipitating our departure could it?

Nice. A moderator trying to bait me into flaming him so he can ban me. Nice and mature Brian. Add that to the growing list of reasons that you should step down.

jimlab

If you focus solely on fitment issues that were later corrected, then you have a point.

However, if the vendor in question regularly lied to people about their orders being shipped, regularly shipped incomplete orders, would not take parts back that were not usable, and in my case, never lived up to his part of our bargain and basically stole several low mileage parts from me... yeah, I can see how you might get confused by that sort of behavior and assume that a guy who has been selling conversion parts for RX-7s for years was just "not ready for primetime".

And as stated before, Hayes Rotary has screwed dozens, if not hundreds, of RX-7 community members. Would that information be irrelevant to potential buyers simply because it was "old"? Sure, let's make members search for it instead of making it readily available. Let's reward a vendor who is not even a supporter of the forum by burying their dirty laundry for them.

Like lying, cheating, and stealing? If the shoe were on the other foot, you'd change your tune in a hurry.

No, we're just the most vocal and not at all impressed by your threats to flex your limited authority.

Why leave a bunch of valuable information laying around for the punks who ruined that forum?

For a bunch of people who said they could do without us and that the information we contributed was easily found on Google, I sure hear a lot of whining about our deleting it...

No, it's time to have you replaced as moderator of this sub-forum, and I'll gladly pay to see it done.

Nihilanthic

I never denied Im guilty of it myself... nor did I single out who was doing it.

I love you too, drew

LT1-10AE

I think you guys simply post to hear your keys click.

So go ahead and let all your steam out in this thread before Jim opens his wallet and throws money at the situation to try and impress others.