Fastest TT FD I Have Ever Seen! ***VID***
04-13-05, 03:47 AM
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Don't waste your time, it's not pretty. It might look good later but the video has it with no front clip at all and body lift kit or something that reminds me of the Audi All Trac wagon.
04-13-05, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin T. Wyum
An RX7 with an LS1 isn't smog legal anywhere in California as far as I'm aware. How does that work in areas with smog testing and inspections since it's not legal to tamper with OEM smog systems let alone swapping a motor type?
At least one person passed with flying colors
http://www.torquecentral.com/showthr...alifornia+smog
He posts his review sheet in Post #24
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04-13-05, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by r0gu3
If a NA LS1 FD with no accessories weighs in at just over 2800, how is a full interior LS1 FD with two LARGE turbos that aren't featherweights, piping, and a IC going to weigh the same?
How is the handling with the turbos up that far forward?
04-13-05, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pianoprodigy
AFAIK, this is the first twin turbo setup they've done. Another Turbo LS1 they did made like 650whp at 15 psi with one 62-1. That car is running 2 of them.
http://www.torquecentral.com/showthread.php?t=24750
04-13-05, 06:34 AM
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Hey Phil,
Hinson said he is going to inform me when that take it out to the track. Also, you were referring to the Hot Rod shootout right? I would definitely be up for that. I can talk to Hinson and see when it will be. I have no clue about when and where it is going to be. Heard there was going to be some crazy fast cars there.
Hinson said he is going to inform me when that take it out to the track. Also, you were referring to the Hot Rod shootout right? I would definitely be up for that. I can talk to Hinson and see when it will be. I have no clue about when and where it is going to be. Heard there was going to be some crazy fast cars there.
more info:
The 2005 HOT ROD Pump-Gas Drags
Enter Now and You Could Be One of 50 Street-and-Strip Heros Fighting for Glory at HOT ROD’s Second 93-Octane Showdown in Memphis Hosted by Comp Cams and Rockett Brand
Enter Now and You Could Be One of 50 Street-and-Strip Heros Fighting for Glory at HOT ROD’s Second 93-Octane Showdown in Memphis Hosted by Comp Cams and Rockett Brand
Hinson was chosen over several other cars and is one of two imports to be in the event which includes a field of 50 cars.
Congrats Brian!!
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04-13-05, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by wingsfan
The car they showed pictures of made 540rwhp/608rwtq, not 650rwhp.
http://www.torquecentral.com/showthread.php?t=24750
http://www.torquecentral.com/showthread.php?t=24750
04-13-05, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by pianoprodigy
Sorry for the misinformation. Those numbers are from a Superflow dyno which I was told reads lower than a Dynojet. That info is also in that thread on torquecentral.
I'm sure you just confused the estimated dynojet number of 650rwtq. Easy mistake.
Dynos lie, time slips don't.
04-13-05, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SomeGuy_sg
How does putting in a heavier engine help in getting you get lower 1/4 times . Just think chassis+LS1+twinturbo+intercooler+misc= more than 2800lbs i am thinking more like 3000+lbs.
The more air and fuel you burn, the more power you make. Pretty simple.
Unless he is thinking of traveling only in a straight line on the streets , he might have some serious bumpsteer issues. Hope he seam welded and added support for the suspension mountings with all that extra weight in front.
04-13-05, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by r0gu3
If a NA LS1 FD with no accessories weighs in at just over 2800, how is a full interior LS1 FD with two LARGE turbos that aren't featherweights, piping, and a IC going to weigh the same? How is the handling with the turbos up that far forward?
04-13-05, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pianoprodigy
Of course it won't weigh the same; however, someone asked why not just modify a Corvette if you want to use the LS1/6. The turbos, piping, IC, etc. will all have to be added to both cars, so the weight advantage will still be at least 300 lbs.
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the "rotary fans" just have to make those comments to try and make v8 rexs not look as good, because that's not what they got and its better than what they got. End of discussion.
04-13-05, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by r0gu3
I definitely agree there, just too many people use that base 2800 lbs weigh in for all LS1 swaps forced indution or not. We wouldn't want people to say all big single turbo 13B's weigh in at 2300lbs on a truck scale.
At any rate, I don't think anyone is arguing that Hinson's setup is your garden variety swap. I'd guess there aren't too many people that are going to do anything even remotely resembling what he's built.
04-13-05, 05:36 PM
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I'll take a stab at being the amazing Kreskin here and make a few predictions. His 10.6 run was already faster than my best stock 13BREW run 8 years ago, so no matter what, he has my previous stuff already beat so this isn't some ego thing. On to the predictions.
1. He will get absolutely hammered at the Hot Rod pump gas drags and not even be close to winning. (Last minute rush jobs never work, things always break etc.)
2. He will never produce 1200hp on that block and turbo setup which can be demonstrated by an appropriate MPH in the 1/4. Anyone can futz a dyno pull result.
3. He will never run an 8.xx 1/4 mile with that car in even close to the trim it's in now. It will be back halved at the minimum with transbrake etc. More than likely a lot more.
It'll be fun to see if I have a future in predictions : )
1. He will get absolutely hammered at the Hot Rod pump gas drags and not even be close to winning. (Last minute rush jobs never work, things always break etc.)
2. He will never produce 1200hp on that block and turbo setup which can be demonstrated by an appropriate MPH in the 1/4. Anyone can futz a dyno pull result.
3. He will never run an 8.xx 1/4 mile with that car in even close to the trim it's in now. It will be back halved at the minimum with transbrake etc. More than likely a lot more.
It'll be fun to see if I have a future in predictions : )
04-13-05, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin T. Wyum
I'll take a stab at being the amazing Kreskin here and make a few predictions. His 10.6 run was already faster than my best stock 13BREW run 8 years ago, so no matter what, he has my previous stuff already beat so this isn't some ego thing. On to the predictions.
1. He will get absolutely hammered at the Hot Rod pump gas drags and not even be close to winning. (Last minute rush jobs never work, things always break etc.)
2. He will never produce 1200hp on that block and turbo setup which can be demonstrated by an appropriate MPH in the 1/4. Anyone can futz a dyno pull result.
3. He will never run an 8.xx 1/4 mile with that car in even close to the trim it's in now. It will be back halved at the minimum with transbrake etc. More than likely a lot more.
It'll be fun to see if I have a future in predictions : )
1. He will get absolutely hammered at the Hot Rod pump gas drags and not even be close to winning. (Last minute rush jobs never work, things always break etc.)
2. He will never produce 1200hp on that block and turbo setup which can be demonstrated by an appropriate MPH in the 1/4. Anyone can futz a dyno pull result.
3. He will never run an 8.xx 1/4 mile with that car in even close to the trim it's in now. It will be back halved at the minimum with transbrake etc. More than likely a lot more.
It'll be fun to see if I have a future in predictions : )
... that and how much hp my car made... Brad
04-13-05, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wingsfan
Well, I posted pictures of my 2800# car on a truck scale. I don't remember seeing pictures of Eric's 2300# beast on any sort of scale.
At any rate, I don't think anyone is arguing that Hinson's setup is your garden variety swap. I'd guess there aren't too many people that are going to do anything even remotely resembling what he's built.
At any rate, I don't think anyone is arguing that Hinson's setup is your garden variety swap. I'd guess there aren't too many people that are going to do anything even remotely resembling what he's built.
I'd like to check out your car next time I'm up in the Austin area.
04-13-05, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kukri
the "rotary fans" just have to make those comments to try and make v8 rexs not look as good, because that's not what they got and its better than what they got. End of discussion.
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04-13-05, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by r0gu3
How is the handling with the turbos up that far forward?
I bet it will handle great turning on and off of the drag strip.
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I'm not sure as to how he will do.. but I hope he wins the PGD's.
I don't see his car as garden variety, but a proof-of-concept advertisement.
However, last time I checked, there was some STIFF competition with people running SBC-SBF-SBM's running ~10's on pump. we'll see...
I don't see his car as garden variety, but a proof-of-concept advertisement.
However, last time I checked, there was some STIFF competition with people running SBC-SBF-SBM's running ~10's on pump. we'll see...
04-14-05, 03:02 AM
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When I looked at the link to the PGD they showed last year people running 9.0x and 9.1 in the 1/4. Given a full year people will get faster. I'd expect to see 8 second pump gas cars unless of course those types got bored with it already or there was a big rule change.
I have to admit that I misunderstood this car being discussed. I thought it was supposed to be some all around good performer, not just drag only car. Was it drag only when it ran the 10.6?
I have to admit that I misunderstood this car being discussed. I thought it was supposed to be some all around good performer, not just drag only car. Was it drag only when it ran the 10.6?
04-14-05, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by r0gu3
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I'd like to check out your car next time I'm up in the Austin area.
I'd like to check out your car next time I'm up in the Austin area.
04-14-05, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin T. Wyum
When I looked at the link to the PGD they showed last year people running 9.0x and 9.1 in the 1/4. Given a full year people will get faster. I'd expect to see 8 second pump gas cars unless of course those types got bored with it already or there was a big rule change.
I have to admit that I misunderstood this car being discussed. I thought it was supposed to be some all around good performer, not just drag only car. Was it drag only when it ran the 10.6?
I have to admit that I misunderstood this car being discussed. I thought it was supposed to be some all around good performer, not just drag only car. Was it drag only when it ran the 10.6?
1. Hinson's personal car may have run a 10.6 at one time; however, the link to the 10.6 was a customer's car with one 62-1 turbo. 10.60 @ 132 w/ 1.38 60'
2. The fastest time for Hinson's car with the powerglide that I've seen is 6.0 @ 112 in the 1/8th mile. Using the standard calculator, that would be good for 9.5 @ 138.8. However, that time was not achieved with the current TT setup since they just got it running last week. As far as I can tell, that time was probably done with the setup described on hinsonsupercars.com as: "two stage nitrous kit spraying 300 horsepower on a stock displacement LS6 engine. The taped dyno run was 691rwhp and 732lb-ft at the rear tires."
If anyone knows otherwise, please chime in.
04-14-05, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin T. Wyum
Was it drag only when it ran the 10.6?
I've seen video of a low 10 (~10.2 IIRC) second pass by Hinson's car on lots of spray. Once they threw the powerglide in there it's safe to say it's a drag only car.
04-14-05, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pianoprodigy
This is what I can determine by reading on Hinson's site and Torquecentral.com:
1. Hinson's personal car may have run a 10.6 at one time; however, the link to the 10.6 was a customer's car with one 62-1 turbo. 10.60 @ 132 w/ 1.38 60'
2. The fastest time for Hinson's car with the powerglide that I've seen is 6.0 @ 112 in the 1/8th mile. Using the standard calculator, that would be good for 9.5 @ 138.8. However, that time was not achieved with the current TT setup since they just got it running last week. As far as I can tell, that time was probably done with the setup described on hinsonsupercars.com as: "two stage nitrous kit spraying 300 horsepower on a stock displacement LS6 engine. The taped dyno run was 691rwhp and 732lb-ft at the rear tires."
If anyone knows otherwise, please chime in.
1. Hinson's personal car may have run a 10.6 at one time; however, the link to the 10.6 was a customer's car with one 62-1 turbo. 10.60 @ 132 w/ 1.38 60'
2. The fastest time for Hinson's car with the powerglide that I've seen is 6.0 @ 112 in the 1/8th mile. Using the standard calculator, that would be good for 9.5 @ 138.8. However, that time was not achieved with the current TT setup since they just got it running last week. As far as I can tell, that time was probably done with the setup described on hinsonsupercars.com as: "two stage nitrous kit spraying 300 horsepower on a stock displacement LS6 engine. The taped dyno run was 691rwhp and 732lb-ft at the rear tires."
If anyone knows otherwise, please chime in.
also, 10.60 @ 132 w/ 1.38 60' doesn't quite calculate out right imo. I'd like to see the entire time sleep.