kazzzt

I just recently bought a 3rd gen 1994 mazda rx7, which came from japan drift prep'd with only 25,000km on the clock verified mileage etc,

It has an uprated drift diff and an uprated drifting clutch (which are a nightmare )

The car is breaking traction on corner even at the lowest of speeds

I have been told to simply change the rear diff back to standard and change the clutch back to standard,

But.....i thought i would jump on here and speak to the community so i can get a better picture of things, any help would be much appreciated,


Look forward to getting some help

Many Regards

Sandy

jdhuegel1

Yikes - I'm not sure what a drift diff and drift clutch are... What brand are they?

Banzai-Racing

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How bald are the rear tires?

badddrx7

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Sounds like you bought the car to drift, so why complain...drift away.



Later

dgeesaman

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How do you want the car to be?

Drift setups are pretty much only good for exactly that. But we'd like to know what kind of setup you're looking for.

kazzzt

The car was originally bought for drifting but....i then bought a 200sx for the drifting and im trying to get this back to being a road car,

The tyre's are pretty bald but i dont think this is causing the car to lose traction when cornerning at snail pace.

I also have no idea of the make of the clutch or diff,

Do you guys think changing the clutch and diff would be the solution, its an uprated clutch which is alot heavier, and has next to know bite,

Regards

Sandy

BigIslandSevens

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sounds to me like a combination of bald tires, Maybe a full locked diff(?) and Most probable cause a suspension set-up created for drifting. Which will help the car step out etc.. as well as maybe stiff as hell ride. Hard to tell without driving the car. You need to getunder the car or have someone else and make a list of what components etc.. are on the car. As well go get tires and a alignment and see what that does for you. At min get the wheels aligned.

You have ruled out a oil leak or something like that getting on the tires correct?

Dave
PS Where are you located? Scotland?

dgeesaman

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Unless that thing has over 400bhp I'd put a stock torsen diff back in there. I'd also figure out what springs it has and go no higher than 8kg/6kg.

Put some good tires on (I hear you have trouble over there getting tires, so I guess tyres will have to do ) and get the alignment cleaned up.

A clutch never affects handling. Clutches are simply a matter of torque capacity quality of engagement. If this clutch bothers you change it out.

Spend some time on reliability mods and maintenance. 25k does not exempt you in any way from the things that happen to FDs.

kazzzt

The car is lowered, basically sitting on the ground tbh, there are no oil leaks so ye ive ruled that one out,

So you recon new tyres, new springs, new diff?

kazzzt

Also where would be the best place to get the torsen diff? Cost etc



Cheers

BigIslandSevens

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Do the easiest and relativley cheapest first. 1) Tires(tyres), 2) alignment,3) Put some quality springs on that give you a usable ride height for a road car, some examples would be some Racing beat springs, pettit springs, TEIN springs etc..,If the car has full on coil-overs on it , get some proper spring rates and set the ride height. 4) Good shocks if not alreay fitted to the car as previously stated
# 1 & 2 are the easiest and most important in my mind. Figure the diff out after if the problem still exists. And you can get the factory Diff from Ray Crowe @ Malloy Mazda 1-888-533-3400 . Also you can use the T2 diff in the FD. I have the Kazz diff 1.5 way slip. The T2 is basically the same thing just quieter from what I see on here.
https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/howard-colemans-fd-chassis-setup-723617/

Here is a link From the suspension section. Howard is a very experienced racer with years of testing and trying ****. I set my car to his basic settings and I love it. OOps, He has a different thread about the similar topic. I look some more for you.
Dave

kazzzt

Great Thanks for all your help guys, ill let you know how i get on within the next couple of weeks, thanks

kazzzt

Hi again guys the rx7 has rays engineering coilovers, will i still need to buy springs? sorry i am a bit of a novice.

BigIslandSevens

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We'll(you'll) Have to figure ou the springrate fist. If the springs are just hard(stiff) as bricks, then the appropriate spring rate will need to be put in. I will search a little and see if I can figure out the spring rate of the Rays coil-overs.

And EVERYONE is a novice at one point or another. Noone knows it all,.alot think they do but noone does really

Dave

kazzzt

Many thanks m8

Maybe u could let me know where the jacking point is also so i can get started on adjusting the springs =)

I would be lost without this forum

BigIslandSevens

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if you are using the stock scissor style jack, the jacking points are under the side of the car on the rocker panel area. there is a long raised strip that is used to center the scissor jack. Same on left and right

if using a floor jack style. I use the rear diff to lift the back of the car, then JACKSTANDS!!before you get any where close to under the car.

For the front I use the engine subframe/crossmember. Just look under to center it.


Now you may have to drive it up on to some blocks of wood or something to get the car high enough if it is as slammed as it sounds

Haven't been able to find any info on the coil overs..not even the coilovers themselves

kazzzt

I know it is a nightmare a lovely car but a nightmare, there is subtle problems with the car but i got it for a very good price there are a few things im still unsure about like the control in the glove box which has buttons named hi low and scramble (think its to do with the blitz intercooler) :S

and another apexi one to the left of my gear stick on the passenger side,

I was reading up on the coilovers i recon im going to have to just make sure that all the coilovers are at the same level, in answer to your question aswel dave im in edinburgh, scotland, uk sorry i missed that earlier,

Managed to get a clutch from a 23,000km rx7 for 40usd from a friend,

Ill replace the tyres sometime next week got a heavy week of work and its hard to slot in,

It will be a hydro floor jack that i use, so ill have to be carefull,

I also went out and had a look at the springs, which are as tight as possible as it seems,


Sandy

BigIslandSevens

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[QUOTE=kazzzt;8007284]there are a few things im still unsure about like the control in the glove box which has buttons named hi low and scramble (think its to do with the blitz intercooler) :S

This is more than likely your Boost controller. BE CAREFULL Don't just start hitting buttons. Speacially scramble. Usually that is a very high setting if not just unregulated boost Be carefull Engines blow easily.


and another apexi one to the left of my gear stick on the passenger side,

This is most likely the turbo timer. Need to see it for sure.

I was reading up on the coilovers i recon im going to have to just make sure that all the coilovers are at the same level, in answer to your question aswel dave im in edinburgh, scotland, uk sorry i missed that earlier,

Cool, We(GF and I ) Plan on going to the UK sometime in the next year or 2. I'll keep you in mind.


Ill replace the tyres sometime next week got a heavy week of work and its hard to slot in,

Finding time is always a bitch. Money can be difficult as well.


It will be a hydro floor jack that i use, so ill have to be carefull,

Like a 2 post lift hydro? Or a pump it up with your hand style. 2 post, then yes just be carefull where the placement of the feet go on the rockers.

If pump up style then use the Diff and front crossmember

I also went out and had a look at the springs, which are as tight as possible as it seems,

Meaning the space in between coils is mashed on itself..coilbound? If that is the case then the springs sound like they may be sacked out..AKA, No good anymore. I had a set do it to me before.

Read between the lines in your quote. I typed in there by mistake

kazzzt

Ye if your ever over give me a shout, thats if i dont wrap the car round a tree anytime soon kidding btw. (its what my gf recons ill do)

I believe the coilovers where set like that for drifting and i hope they are still functional to be adjusted,

The control in the glove box is switched off as i didnt have a clue what it was and didnt want to pop the engine or what not,


There is still slight space between the coils but you can tell they have been tightened to the max, ill try and take a few pictures tomorrow if you dont mind?


Sandy

kazzzt

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kazzzt

A few pics on the comp

KeloidJonesJr.

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+1

And pics of the car plz.

kazzzt

eatmyclutch im unsure of what you mean?


Another problem i had this morning was, i went out to turn over the engine and it wouldnt start,

Is this battery or flooding?

I eventually managed to get it to turn over,

But when i first inserted the key and turned it nothing happened what so ever,


Also in relation the to drifting diff, i have a funny feeling it may be a D-Box but i will find out today when i get it jacked up.



Sandy

kazzzt

Here is a link to the D-Box that i suspect may be fitted to my rx7 but i need to locate it first, http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/N...roduct_id=1018