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Yep those are the correct compression numbers. Just to finish it of the '89-'91 n/a is 9.7:1

 

I was closer. Do I win?

 

is it operational yet?

 

i think it would be cool but i don't know if it would work

ok fwhp =?
i thought that was front wheel horse power but i could be wrong
if i'm right someone just spends too long on the honda forums .. yuck fwd
umm yeah thats not a front wheel drive

 

ohh yeah and umm infront of the engine make for poor weight distribution... true
but 98% of the drag mustangs mount theres there so it sucks in clean cold air

 

FWHP can also stand for FLYWHEEL horsepower ya kno...take some time to research before you critisize

 

No Mazda engineer ever told you that. And they didn't lower the claimed power to make it more reliable. Please, stop talking out of your ***. It's not cool to spread misinformation.

 

i say go for it. if you can afford to make it turbo then you can afford a new engine. i want to see some more progress.

 

How can people knock something that has been relatively never tried before?
This is a GREAT idea!!!! Because we can sit here and point out all the downsides and weaknesses, but really should be greatfull someone else is dumping a lot of money into R&D so we can benefit from the results learned.

 

The worry was not centered around the turbo operating properly or not, it was the effects of radiant heat damaging engine components. Besides, a drag car is largely different than a t/c 8. Yes, 900hp is great, but the stress on that motor is not best comparable to a t/c renesis that will be probably be street driven with far more (and different) miles than a high powered drag car whos engine wont be expected to last 5+ years.

Because its not perfect? I don't think its so much that people are "bagging" the engine, but you can love the it, and still be critical of it- that is how advancements are made. If we simply praised all of its good points, and left it at that, where would we be?

With that said, I'm happy to see efforts at forced induction being explored for the renesis, but its no simple task, and many won't be convinced on how effective it is, until it is done with decent results. I'm also looking at this in direct relation to whats going to happen with the next 7, and its powerplant.

Interesting thread.

 

Well said...

 

To me it sounded like people were complaining that lag would be an issue and the turbo wouldn't do its job properly with the turbo mounted at the front, i was using the drag car as an example that plenty of power can still be made with the turbo in that location. Agreed there are many differences between the tc 8 and the drag car, but as for heat damaging other engine components, that shouldn't be an issue if heat sheilds are made up. Along with heat sheild coatings aplied to the manifold, you could even go as far as running some sort of blower fan accross the manifold/turbo area to get rid of the heat.



Agreed it isn't prefect, but the way they were critisising it, almost sounded like a bitch session, with farily weak debates as to why the turbo setup wouldn't work.
As for the new 7, i hope they bring out a large capacity 2 rotor, with room in the engine bay to turbo it
though thinking about it a big block 2 rotor, with a turbo hanging off it, in the engine bay of an rx3 would be pretty cool

Indeed it is

cheers

Lance

 

Personally I hope the new RX7 will superceed the RX8 in every way. I think Mazda wanted to release a car to please everyone(in a way)........great emissions, good mpg, looks cool, 240hp, and wow its a rotary.... Personally, I think 30k is a rediculous price, but then again the price of most new vehicles is a joke!!

Wheather or not the renesis will take boost is pending. I mean, how many FD's did you see with rebuilds at 50k miles, though much of this was the insane vacuum lines mess and the fact that most people that buy expensive sports cars don't know a lot about their car, they just get in it and go Much of the reason rotary engines have a bad reputation.

When I first saw the numbers on an RX8 and the explained situation I imediatly said HALTECH. For a rotary to pass as an ultra-low emissions vehicle, despite the redesign, says its being choked by the ECU and emmissions related crap. Open her up and maybe being an NA won't be so bad......damn that lack of torque....ok where is the turbo

 

From what others have been saying a stand alone ECU on the RX-8 is pretty much impossible (for a street driven one desiring the other electronics to still work)since the stock ECU controls everything electronically with the car. Hence the ECU reprogramming and/or piggybacks. I cant wait to hear some more information on testing of the turbo kit.

 

PFC, E-manage to name a few for the RX-7s...
PMS for the Ford's mass air is a wicked system.

You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.

 

To keep these terms separate, BHP (brake horsepower, the power at the flywheel as measured on an engine brake dyno) is the accepted to term to denote power at the flywheel.