Has anyone looked into using one of these units. A dual stage manual boost controller.

A friend has one of these on his EVO4 and he has his low boost set at 14 psi and his hogh boost at 21 psi.. it's kinda' cool..especially the F14 fighter type of red swith that you can flick on the fly when someone comes to close to your rear bumper...

These are from Australia ..I think.

See what they wrote on Abel's car .

Click link for details and pics

http://www.turboxs.com/Dual%20Stage...0Controller.htm

 

Its says

Is this the one you want? This is what I ordered

http://www.horsepowerinabox.com/mall/bc05.asp

I just ordered one

 

I dont' think you guys are talking about the same boost controller. $275 seems high for a dual stage controller. You can pick up a Profec B for just a little more money.

 

I just bought one of the TurboXS dual stage controller's. I haven't had the chance to use it but from what i hear it's the sh*t@! I'll let you know soon enough

 

I recently purchased this boost controler and love it. I sold the profec B in favor of the turboxs unit. BTW, they are based out Gathersburg, MD......and I paid $165 for mine directly from them. It works very well and holds the boost much better then my profec did. I have it set at 12lbs and 18lbs.
Ernie

 

How do you get ahold of them I need to buy a boost controller and was just wondering.
Nick

 

Thats AUS$$$'s not US $$$'s. I think it was like $140 US all said and done

 

THey have it listed at $249 on their site. Where did you get it for $165 Ernie T ?

 

Kinda off topic, but how exactly is it safe to run two different boost levels if you car is specifically tuned for just one? I have always wondered this, although I never really plan on running different boost levels. Sorry not meaning to highjack your thread.

M-P

 

I run the Turbo XS dual stage myself, with a S-AFC, I love it! I payed $185 .. I have had it installed for over a year, its holds boost at both levels just perfectly.

To anwser the above question; I run my car tuned for the second stage (so i never risk detonation from rnning lean), so I naturally run a bit rich on the lower stage of boost ... but it is great for launches (keep the damn tires from spinning in lower gears) and also for just around town cruising ... It's not like it's hessitaion rich, just on the highly safe side of rich on the lower stage.


I attched a pic of where I have mine installed just below the shifter and I flick with a click going from 3rd to 4th usally.



-Robert

 

From what I have seen and read the TURBOSMART e BOOST is the new "wonder controller" on the market with 3 stage boost control and a host of additional features including a programmable on / off output , it costs a bit more but I believe its worth it . I already sold my EVC and will be getting it soon.

 

The e-Boost electronic boost management system is the culmination of many years of research, development and innovation, with countless hours spent testing on the dyno, the race track and the drag strip. The e-Boost is the worlds first re-programmable boost controller utilising FLASH memory technology, making it compatible with future software upgrades, meaning your e-Boost will never be out-dated. The e-Boost is more than just the best performing electronic boost controller, it is a complete boost management system, making Turbosmart a world leader in boost control systems. This revolutionary product is loaded with features, squeezed into a package small enough to fit in the palm of your hand:

The latest in Hi-tech electronics, featuring a 16 bit RISC based FLASH memory CPU – faster and smoother boost response
Utilises the latest in surface mount technology – lighter, smaller and ultra compact
Electronics are housed in an anodised billet aluminium alloy housing – offering durability and reliability in harsh race conditions
Programmable gate pressure function to totally eliminate wastegate creep - you tell the wastegate when to open
Three internally or externally activated and individually programmable boost set points
Drag racers - improve your launch, run a different boost in each gear
High accuracy boost and vacuum display, readout accurate to within +/- 0.5% of full scale, boost gauge no longer required – great value
Readout can be tailored to suit your needs – display can be configured in KPA, Bar or PSI
Easy to read seven segment display with programmable bar graph and glow in the dark buttons
Programmable auxiliary output – e.g. water spray control, water/methanol injection, boost light
Programmable audible warning alarm – excellent for over-boost warning or full boost confirmation
Peak hold/Max Boost recall function
Revolutionary gauge type construction allows many practical mounting solutions – 66mm in diameter 55mm long. Suitable for Panel mounting, or in any 2 5/8 inch gauge pod or pillar mounting system.
e-BOOST Boost Management

Available in two models:
MAX Boost 40 PSI / 2.72 Bar / 272 KPA
p/n: FG-EBOOST-40

MAX Boost 60 PSI / 4.08 Bar / 408 KPA
p/n: FG-EBOOST-60

 

That looks pretty slick. But is adding alot of varabiles to configure and it sounds like a hell of alot of un needed complication. How much does it cost? Does it work with any turbo car, or is it ECU specific?

 

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I kinda figured that but just wasn't sure how rich it would make it run.

M-P

 

As long as you don't stagger your boost levels by a ton .. should be fine. I have a 4.5 PSI difference in mine, and it's good.

8.5PSI low, 13 PSI high. Not running that setup at the moment though .. got some tuning to do with my new turbo, but thats how I was running it, and how I plan to run it again once I re-tune.

-Robert

 

Ive got the TXS dsbc on my car (since i work for txs )

Its a very nice peice, As for Abel... we sent him out a special unit we made up recently. It was either a 3 or 4 stage. (I dont remember)

If you wanted a 3 stage mbc I can get you one. You would have two switches that you would open in succession or you could hook them up to relays to get higher boost. Although thats probably overkill for 99.9% of people

 

XSTransAm, where can I get the dual stage controller for the $165 listed above ? Can someone point me in the right direction ?? Thank you.

 

I have seen them at that price sold as new on E-Bay. One of those E-bay only type companies ... they sell all kinds of things like that.

here, Buy it now, $162.99

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2450155052

 

Unfortunately we do not warrenty any of our products purchased on ebay since it is against our dealer agreement. The ebay vendors are teir 3 and do not get their products straight from us.

But honestly in 2 years ive only seen one that had actually failed. The thing is built like a rock

 

One very important thing that you guys using those MBC's over look is the OverBoost protection that is provided by an electronic controller . Sure thse manual controllers are cheaper but how much is your engine worth to you ?.I have personal experience with those and they do get plugged causing your boost to spike.

 

what did it get clogged with? Your running a decent air cleaner I am assuming

 

Even if you are running a desent air cleaner , there is always a build up of "gunk" (oil residue, dust, etc) over time ,thats why the more expensive and sensative ones use filters.

 

good thought, I might put a filter right before mine. My apexi boost gauge came with a nice little inline filter, I am going to look around see if I can buy one like that. Just as a precaution.


-Robert

 

If you go closed loop, the most efficient set up, you
are in more danger with electronic b/c because if
you get voltage problem or malfunction-boom

 

Nope , If there is a voltage problem and something goes wrong the controller will switch off from either too low a voltage or too high a voltage , in the latter case the fuse would blow and boost levels will revert to normal (wastegate spring pressure).
As hor inline filters , HKS sells them at around $10.00 each.