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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 11:38 PM
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what would that prove?
I used the turbo on a honda race car about 3 years ago.
Before most people even knew a gt35 existed
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 12:01 AM
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... pics of a turbo on a scale would prove the weight id imagine? i just have a hard time imagining a 10 lb turbo.. my gt40 just weighed in at 24 lbs
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 12:15 AM
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... pics of a turbo on a scale would prove the weight id imagine? i just have a hard time imagining a 10 lb turbo.. my gt40 just weighed in at 24 lbs
Yeah, I have hard time believing getting a complete turbo less than 10 lbs. It would have to use all the finest materials (inconel etc...) but even if you did I just can't see it with a turbo of that size. If you could do it, more power to you. Can I purchase one?
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 12:16 AM
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turbo is gone. car was sold. can't do that for you sorry. It was 3 years ago.

Most of the weight is in the turbine housing. turbo had s/s vband housing and was extremely light.

There custom made, expensive, and rare that's why your having a hard time believing it.
Most people have never seen them.
There were used in Leman's on the cadallic race car.

I used to build headers for a living so i've seen quite a few turbo's in my time.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 12:21 AM
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Oh yeah. I remember the shipping box weight was 12lbs.
It was pretty crazy, i couldn't believe there was a turbo in the box.
You don't forget **** like this.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by the_glass_man
Yeah, I have hard time believing getting a complete turbo less than 10 lbs. It would have to use all the finest materials (inconel etc...)
Yep, Inconel turbo for Indy cars weighed in at 6 lbs.!
I doubt this $10,000 turbo ended up in a Honda though.


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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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it wasn't $10K. Much less then that. Our budget wasn't that high!

Plus having an insider @ garrett helps in getting it for much less...
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 12:27 AM
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thats very impressive... wish i still had my gt-40 to weigh with the turbine off just for ***** and giggles..
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 12:29 AM
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Also we didn't have inconel wheels in ours.

And BTW back then there were two other honda's using $20K turbo's!
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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arent twin projects fun? Im almost done with mine

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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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those look like they might spool a bit better =]
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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Enzo twin 35R's wil be nice, I had a fixture here for one setup to do just that, I can never get around to finishing it. Sucks. Good luck.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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Sean/Enzo, what hotside would you use?

BTW Enzo, myBosch injectors are the 927. I am sending them out to be flowed, and cleaned. Carl
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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FX- thats lookin good!

nyt- i think that everybody is going to be suprised about the spool time of these turbos. I guess we will all just have to wait and see!
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 12:29 PM
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WTF is this??!!!

Originally Posted by ErnieT
Hmmm......tuning session in California ring a bell?? Mike Avioula's FD was the only in your group with the R85 and it made 360rwhp at 11psi at 9.5.1 A/F (rich as hell)
Then since you start making some real power..........all of a sudden this car is "too loud" for the dyno and can't be tuned on the dyno anymore. And supposedly this won't make 450rwhp at 15psi, according to whom???? LOL..... If Im incorrect, I appoligize. I hope I am wrong.
How is it that my car keeps showing up in threads that are antagonistic? This is pretty f*$king ridiculous! I barely get on the forum and the last couple of times I'm on it looking for information, I see crap about my car that essentially does nothing but **** people off. People I happen to be very dependent on for help.

First someone who I had no idea was anywhere near my car starts criticizing the R85 kit that I'm putting on it on one of these threads. Yes, there were a few issues and parts missing. I was one of the first guys who ordered it and put it on a car. I was working with Demetrios and Keith to get through some of these things, and then someone shoots off his mouth.

Now someone seems to be implying that Steve wasn't willing to tune my car to its full potential? Where does this $hit come from? For the record, Mustang Ranch was very unaccomodating. I do track events with the Shelby Club all the time and I know that several of the cars are as loud or louder than mine, and they do a lot of their tuning on the Mustang Ranch dyno. Nevertheless, they wanted me off the dyno after only about 2-3 pulls. Steve had nothing to do with this and seemed just as irritated as I was that we had to pull my car off. He spent all day with me Sunday - putting in the resistors in the morning and street tuning the car all afternoon.

He had absolutely NOTHING negative to say about the kit on my car, and I never had any reason to believe he wasn't doing his best to tune my car. I specifically requested the car run rich since here in CA the best gas we get is 91 Octane - not the 93-94 available in other parts of the country. I also road race the car, and it has to run for 25-30 minute sessions at full boost continuously. That's a lot more taxing than a 10-11 second quarter-mile burst. In fact, Steve actually commented that the turbo seemed to have good response and that it obviously flows well.

I need guys like Steve to help tune my car and am grateful he came out here and did that. I need guys like Keith and Dee to stand by their work and work with me to get through teething issues, and they've been doing that. I wish you guys who keep referencing my car in discussions that do nothing but **** these guys off would just keep me out of it.

I've been trying to do all my stuff in private, but it's amazing and disappointing how it gets public so quickly.

- Mike
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 10:29 PM
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I really don't understand why your so pissed off at me. What part of what I said offended you? What part was not true? Just curious why your taking such offense. I said if anything I heard was untrue, that I appoligize. Everyone take a big breath. In with the good, out w/ the bad......
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mavila
How is it that my car keeps showing up in threads that are antagonistic? This is pretty f*$king ridiculous! I barely get on the forum and the last couple of times I'm on it looking for information, I see crap about my car that essentially does nothing but **** people off. People I happen to be very dependent on for help.

First someone who I had no idea was anywhere near my car starts criticizing the R85 kit that I'm putting on it on one of these threads. Yes, there were a few issues and parts missing. I was one of the first guys who ordered it and put it on a car. I was working with Demetrios and Keith to get through some of these things, and then someone shoots off his mouth.

Now someone seems to be implying that Steve wasn't willing to tune my car to its full potential? Where does this $hit come from? For the record, Mustang Ranch was very unaccomodating. I do track events with the Shelby Club all the time and I know that several of the cars are as loud or louder than mine, and they do a lot of their tuning on the Mustang Ranch dyno. Nevertheless, they wanted me off the dyno after only about 2-3 pulls. Steve had nothing to do with this and seemed just as irritated as I was that we had to pull my car off. He spent all day with me Sunday - putting in the resistors in the morning and street tuning the car all afternoon.

He had absolutely NOTHING negative to say about the kit on my car, and I never had any reason to believe he wasn't doing his best to tune my car. I specifically requested the car run rich since here in CA the best gas we get is 91 Octane - not the 93-94 available in other parts of the country. I also road race the car, and it has to run for 25-30 minute sessions at full boost continuously. That's a lot more taxing than a 10-11 second quarter-mile burst. In fact, Steve actually commented that the turbo seemed to have good response and that it obviously flows well.

I need guys like Steve to help tune my car and am grateful he came out here and did that. I need guys like Keith and Dee to stand by their work and work with me to get through teething issues, and they've been doing that. I wish you guys who keep referencing my car in discussions that do nothing but **** these guys off would just keep me out of it.

I've been trying to do all my stuff in private, but it's amazing and disappointing how it gets public so quickly.

- Mike
But the real question is how was that KFC for lunch ? LOL
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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ahem...


so anyways
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 02:43 AM
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Pissed off

Originally Posted by ErnieT
I really don't understand why your so pissed off at me. What part of what I said offended you? What part was not true? Just curious why your taking such offense. I said if anything I heard was untrue, that I appoligize. Everyone take a big breath. In with the good, out w/ the bad......
It's pretty simple. Why would Steve have any incentive or desire to help tune my car if people are going to accuse him of not being able to tune it properly? Worse yet, to seem to imply that he would intentially not tune it to its full potential. In one of the other threads, a guy I hardly know (but it might appear otherwise since he's commenting firsthand on the install of the kit) starts criticizing the kit, pissing Demetrios and Keith off. Why would they have any desire to continue working with me when someone assumed to be my friend is publicly bad-mouthing the kit?

In both of these cases, people I still need for various reasons to stand by their work just get pissed - possibly directly at me, despite the fact that I had nothing to do with any of these comments. The fact is, unless Demetrios is going to fly around the country to tune every R85 kit out there, some of us have to rely on other people to tune them. There aren't a lot of knowledgeable and experienced tuners around, and for those of us who don't live in the mid-Atlantic, hopefully Demetrios isn't the only guy out there who can get 430+ rwhp out of the kit. If people just sit around and criticize the people who try, it only makes things worse.

This all reminds me of the old Kevin Wyum and Peter Farrell bad blood. When I was working in Minneapolis for a few months, Kevin was reluctant to even talk to me just because I had bought PFS stuff and put it on my car.

Why can't we all just get along . . .

- Mike
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 05:52 AM
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Point taken, Mike. My appoligies.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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I know what the turbos are....or at least what the compressor housings came from. That top turbo looks mighty high up. Well higher than the collant cap...are you guys sure that the turbo and the ic pipe is going to clear the hood?

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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 07:24 PM
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Its not TOP SECRET info. The turbo's are from TEC.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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Yeah everything clears the hood. Hell I didnt even have to break out the wizz wheel!
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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No problem

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Point taken, Mike. My appoligies.
No big deal I guess. Sorry for getting all riled up.

Everything clears my hood, but I'm not sure I'm a good benchmark. I have a replica Mazdaspeed hood in fiberglass/CF. It has slightly more clearance because there isn't as much bracing underneath. It also doesn't have the insulating foam.

I will say that it's a bit tight, but the whole M2 large IC and piping has very little clearance too. In fact, the older M2 piping would even rub the R1 strut tower bar. I used a 90-degree silicone bend right out of the turbo. I don't think there is any other way to clear the hood, but other guys might have other ideas. I can take a pic of my install if people are interested. I probably won't be able to do it until next week though. The car is back in storage until the next track event and I don't have time to get out to the warehouse this week.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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so i should be the first using this exact combination.

and you call those twins

or are you talking about combination - turbine/compressor?!?!
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