DYNO'ED Today, 533whp @ 23 psi.
08-22-05, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LUPE
FYI, when I was trapping 122mph with ET Streets, my dyno last year read 318 whp on that dyno. This was before the dyno started reading a little lower.
I had Dyno'd 354 rwhp on a dynojet (corrected )and the next day, with almost identical temp and humidities, 351 on a Mustang dyno ( no correction whatsoever ) and was only trapping 117 to 118 on 8 passes on ET streets. Hell, my best run was a 1.77 60' on a 11.83 @ 117.
Something doesn't smell quite right with this dyno's #s? They are way too far off. I have never seen a dyno put out more than 12% different than any other kind. I'd definately like to see what #s you'd put down on a dynojet or mustang dyno. 533 is definately do-able @ 23psi.
Also, I've seen logs of 100% duty cycles on 1680/850cc injectors @ 40psi base with a bosche pump rated for 90psi, @ 8000 rpm 21psi on a race-port/GT40R. Even at your leaner a/f and your 10 psi higher base pressure, that still would not bring his duty cycle below 85%.
I'm not hating, just confused by the #s.
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08-22-05, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LUV94RX7
The point is you had your car tuned properly.
That's what is all about. You did'n't blow your motor.
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That's what is all about. You did'n't blow your motor.
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08-22-05, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pluto
If it was me honestly, I would be more happy bragging about trapping 122mph @318rwhp instead of making 533rwhp and runs 13's. 
j/k eric
It's funny how all these # game works. If I said I was only making 200rwhp and trap 100mph in the 1/4. people would say BS. either the track was wrong or I'm making more hp than I claimed.
but when it comes down to dyno #'s, people are just the opposite.
go figure?
j/k ericIt's funny how all these # game works. If I said I was only making 200rwhp and trap 100mph in the 1/4. people would say BS. either the track was wrong or I'm making more hp than I claimed.
but when it comes down to dyno #'s, people are just the opposite.
go figure?
I told you, all I wanted was to run 10.90's @ 100 mph
08-22-05, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotarded
Trapping 122 @ 318 rwhp? Dayyyyum. What was your 60" and your ET?
I had Dyno'd 354 rwhp on a dynojet (corrected )and the next day, with almost identical temp and humidities, 351 on a Mustang dyno ( no correction whatsoever ) and was only trapping 117 to 118 on 8 passes on ET streets. Hell, my best run was a 1.77 60' on a 11.83 @ 117.
Something doesn't smell quite right with this dyno's #s? They are way too far off. I have never seen a dyno put out more than 12% different than any other kind. I'd definately like to see what #s you'd put down on a dynojet or mustang dyno.
Also, I've seen logs of 100% duty cycles on 1680/850cc injectors @ 40psi base with a bosche pump rated for 90psi, @ 8000 rpm 21psi on a race-port/large single. Even at your leaner a/f and your 10 psi higher base pressure, that still would not bring his duty cycle below 85%.
I'm not hating, just confused by the #s.
I had Dyno'd 354 rwhp on a dynojet (corrected )and the next day, with almost identical temp and humidities, 351 on a Mustang dyno ( no correction whatsoever ) and was only trapping 117 to 118 on 8 passes on ET streets. Hell, my best run was a 1.77 60' on a 11.83 @ 117.
Something doesn't smell quite right with this dyno's #s? They are way too far off. I have never seen a dyno put out more than 12% different than any other kind. I'd definately like to see what #s you'd put down on a dynojet or mustang dyno.
Also, I've seen logs of 100% duty cycles on 1680/850cc injectors @ 40psi base with a bosche pump rated for 90psi, @ 8000 rpm 21psi on a race-port/large single. Even at your leaner a/f and your 10 psi higher base pressure, that still would not bring his duty cycle below 85%.
I'm not hating, just confused by the #s.
I told you guys, this Dyno can't get any business because the numbers read so low...... It's a great tuning tool but it's def not for bragging rights.
08-22-05, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pluto
oh, you forgot to mentioned that those numbers marked (for rpm) is not set for rx7. It was actually set for wrx's. I don't want people thinking that we get full boost at 4500rpm. :P
I can't see.
08-22-05, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LUPE
Yeah, everyone is right and I'm wrong.... There is no way a big turbo/race gas combo can make 533 to the ground.
I told you, all I wanted was to run 10.90's @ 100 mph
I told you, all I wanted was to run 10.90's @ 100 mph
I was editing my post when you replied. 533 is definately possible with your set-up at 23psi.
as for the 2nd part, ME TOO!
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08-22-05, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pluto
You know I'm down for another trip whenever you guys are ready for me again. Thanks for your hospitiality and show me the street racing scene. Next time, we'll go clubbing instead.
Next time, we'll go clubbing instead. 
Eh, I need some better fuel anyway, stock lines and fat injectors arent cutting it.
08-22-05, 09:19 PM
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Why post dyno numbers anymore if not dyno'g at a credible location, who can blame those that don't buy it.
If you are gonna step in it anyway, why not make sure the sheet looks credible, then post up a clear scan of the sheet, then let folks either get green with envy or blast away with BS flags. With no sheet and a debatealbe number your post gets what it deserves.
I bet it's a thrill ride, that's what counts anyway. Go tear up the 1/4 mile and let us know how it does.
If you are gonna step in it anyway, why not make sure the sheet looks credible, then post up a clear scan of the sheet, then let folks either get green with envy or blast away with BS flags. With no sheet and a debatealbe number your post gets what it deserves.
I bet it's a thrill ride, that's what counts anyway. Go tear up the 1/4 mile and let us know how it does.
08-22-05, 09:21 PM
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I think you're right. It looks too flat to be a hp graph.
Originally Posted by LUPE
I don't think that's even the hp graph... I think that's the afr to boost graph I can't see.
I can't see.
08-22-05, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rotornut
Hey guys,
What can I say... It was an awesome experience to see rotary's making great HP's. Great job Eric. Thanks again for setting this up. Steve is a great guy with all his tuning knowledge for our cars. My car runs great now. I must say that I was a bit worried when my car was on the dyno. Stock original engine at 66K. It held its power till the redline.
It was fun watching your car though, Eric. Man, that's a monster of a car. And Ron, of Davinci's motor works, thanks man for preparing my car before the tuning day. That was a great deal you gave me. You guys in that area are so fortunate to have a shop like Davinci that knows your cars. Same is true with Axis Tuning, great price - great service. I wish we have the same kind of shops here in the Memphis area.
We had a safe trip back. Now that I know its also safe to floor the gas pedal. I hope to be content with the power in the car now, at least for a long while.
Best regards.
What can I say... It was an awesome experience to see rotary's making great HP's. Great job Eric. Thanks again for setting this up. Steve is a great guy with all his tuning knowledge for our cars. My car runs great now. I must say that I was a bit worried when my car was on the dyno. Stock original engine at 66K. It held its power till the redline.
It was fun watching your car though, Eric. Man, that's a monster of a car. And Ron, of Davinci's motor works, thanks man for preparing my car before the tuning day. That was a great deal you gave me. You guys in that area are so fortunate to have a shop like Davinci that knows your cars. Same is true with Axis Tuning, great price - great service. I wish we have the same kind of shops here in the Memphis area.
We had a safe trip back. Now that I know its also safe to floor the gas pedal. I hope to be content with the power in the car now, at least for a long while.
Best regards.
08-22-05, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7twinturboboy
Hmm...since you never return my PM's LUPE...can you just post pics here?
Pics of the car
08-22-05, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pluto
You know I'm down for another trip whenever you guys are ready for me again. Thanks for your hospitiality and show me the street racing scene. Next time, we'll go clubbing instead.
Next time, we'll go clubbing instead. remind me never to park in that spot again.
08-23-05, 01:18 AM
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its not used for bragging rights, but you're multiplying everything it puts out by 1.20 and THEN bragging about it?
Originally Posted by LUPE
I told you guys, this Dyno can't get any business because the numbers read so low...... It's a great tuning tool but it's def not for bragging rights.
08-23-05, 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jacobcartmill
its not used for bragging rights, but you're multiplying everything it puts out by 1.20 and THEN bragging about it?
No bragging here, just praising Steve Kans great work.
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08-23-05, 06:00 AM
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Well done Lupe whatever the figures, it's alot better than it was before Steve tuned it. Carl you keep mentioning a dynapack a dynapack reads power at the hubs not the wheels. The dynodynamics is different from a dynapack. Dynodynamics is what we use here in the UK. Power reading is very accurate, I believe rice racing would confirm they have a good rep in Australia too.
if there is a 15% difference to a dynojet then the 470rwhp I got at 1.2 bar on a dynodynamics equates to 540rwhp on a dynojet which does sound a bit much.
Nevertheless good job done by all. I will be back on the dyno within two weeks, we have a very similar setup so will compare then.
if there is a 15% difference to a dynojet then the 470rwhp I got at 1.2 bar on a dynodynamics equates to 540rwhp on a dynojet which does sound a bit much.
Nevertheless good job done by all. I will be back on the dyno within two weeks, we have a very similar setup so will compare then.
08-23-05, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jacobcartmill
so if i go dyno 300whp and the tuner tells me it reads a little low, i can come in here and make a thread with the numbers it *should* have been? like I DYNO'D 360whp?!!! craziness
08-23-05, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ErnieT
Why start touble? If you don't believe him, don't read the thread. Its obvious Steve and Eric are happy with the results and wanted to share. So be it.
I'm sure this is the reason why there's a lot of negativity on their "accomplishments".
I really don't care how much power they made.
Congrads to them...
But to tell everyone that engine break-in's are not necessary - isn't that a bit too much???
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08-23-05, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
But to tell everyone that engine break-in's are not necessary - isn't that a bit too much???
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Actually, I feel that engine break in on a rotary isn't necessary either. Unless its brand new and that hasn't happened in 10yrs. IMO, as well as my tuner say a few heat cycles, change your oil and have at it!
08-23-05, 07:18 AM
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Lupe ditch that A 1000 pump and get the Aeromotive Eliminator. It looks identical but you will be amazed at how much more fuel it pumps compared to the little brother. You will be able to run a least a couple more psi and have lower duty. Good job!!
08-23-05, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ErnieT
Why start touble? If you don't believe him, don't read the thread. Its obvious Steve and Eric are happy with the results and wanted to share. So be it.
Zach
08-23-05, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ErnieT
Actually, I feel that engine break in on a rotary isn't necessary either. Unless its brand new and that hasn't happened in 10yrs. IMO, as well as my tuner say a few heat cycles, change your oil and have at it!
I have seen engines go directly from the stand to a 9000 rpm dyno run on a dynapack with no ill effects, if its clearanced right and built right, there wont be a problem..Max