DYNO'ED Today, 533whp @ 23 psi.
08-22-05, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by darkphantom
whats the most that he said you could boost? Nice numbers. BTW what clutch & flywheel are you using, and the fuelpump?
Clutch is act 6 puck and 9lb sr motorsports flywheel.
Nothing fancy.
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08-22-05, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Byck
"Now, its hard to say if the 20% estimate is accurate or not but based on the other three cars in the middle, it seems about right. The only way to verify it is to goto a dynojet or run some 1/4 to back up the hp claims. " Yup...
what does the dyno manufacturer have to say about the numbers, any explanation? What values does the software ask for when you set-up a car?
Lupe, do you plan to take your car to the track anytime soon? For the 1/4 mile gurus, what would 530hp/2700lbs equate to in trap speed? Sounds like the owners are happy, that's always the big one. See y'all at SS8
Maybe we can get a mobile dyno, or incorporate a dyno day????
what does the dyno manufacturer have to say about the numbers, any explanation? What values does the software ask for when you set-up a car?
Lupe, do you plan to take your car to the track anytime soon? For the 1/4 mile gurus, what would 530hp/2700lbs equate to in trap speed? Sounds like the owners are happy, that's always the big one. See y'all at SS8
Maybe we can get a mobile dyno, or incorporate a dyno day????The 20% is supposed to be a simulated cf drag and a few paracitic losses. I have no idea why it's factored in but that's just the way it is. He's had many people dyno their cars on a dyno jet after using his dyno and it always comes to 20% dead on.
Taking it to the track next tuesday, that's my plans
2620lb + 533whp = 9.90 @ 144mph ...... I'd be happy with a 10.90 @ 100 mph
08-22-05, 05:05 PM
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I think my duty cycles were around 85% at 23 psi, but I was very rich up top. at 23 psi, and ~11.5:1, I was 80% with 1680/680s. I'd say ~550-575 would be max with my set-up, and some safety margin.Steve can you tell us how much air Lupe is flowing at 23psi? What were your IATs like? have fun, Carl
08-22-05, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pluto
Just got back from the trip. What a weekend. I guess I need to straigthen out some of the questions people have here.
frist. the dyno we were putting out extremely low #'s. According to the owner of the dyno, he said that he has the tech came to his shop to figure out why it was doing it. Basically, the tech couldn't figure it out but they estimated that the % is around 5% lower than their other dynos. when compared to dynojet #'s, you're looking at 20% lower #'s.
Lupe's car was the first on the dyno. The most we managed was 445rwhp@23psi. with the 20% estimate, it made 533rwhp when compared to the dynojet. The car was running 950cc/1300cc injectors with 50psi base fuel pressure, C16 fuel and 80% duty cycle. a/f ratio was around 11.5-11.6
The very next car was a street ported engine with stock turbos. We made 252rwhp@13psi. with the 20% estimate, it made 302rwhp. That sounds about right with the mods he has and the map I was using as a base line. a/f was around 10.9-11.0
next was another stock turbo with stock ports. It made 230rwhp@13psi which translate to 275rwhp. (sounds about right since he has a high flow cat). a/f was around 10.9-11.0
next was a car with the GT35R turbo and a ported engine. The car made 322rwhp@15psi. with the 20% estimate, it made 386rwhp. I think this is the car that I feel has a restrictive exhaust system. (can't remember). a/f was around 10.9-11.0
next was a TII with Davichi turbo and haltech. The car made 355rwhp@15psi. This translate to around 426rwhp on dynojet. The duty cycle was around 82% with the base pressure of 45psi running 550cc/1600cc. a/f was around 10.6-10.9 (i tuned it richer since I thought it was making a little too much hp).
Those were the cars that was tuned on the dyno. I did the rest on the street since the dyno place was closed on sunday.
Now, its hard to say if the 20% estimate is accurate or not but based on the other three cars in the middle, it seems about right. The only way to verify it is to goto a dynojet or run some 1/4 to back up the hp claims.
Only time will tell.
frist. the dyno we were putting out extremely low #'s. According to the owner of the dyno, he said that he has the tech came to his shop to figure out why it was doing it. Basically, the tech couldn't figure it out but they estimated that the % is around 5% lower than their other dynos. when compared to dynojet #'s, you're looking at 20% lower #'s.
Lupe's car was the first on the dyno. The most we managed was 445rwhp@23psi. with the 20% estimate, it made 533rwhp when compared to the dynojet. The car was running 950cc/1300cc injectors with 50psi base fuel pressure, C16 fuel and 80% duty cycle. a/f ratio was around 11.5-11.6
The very next car was a street ported engine with stock turbos. We made 252rwhp@13psi. with the 20% estimate, it made 302rwhp. That sounds about right with the mods he has and the map I was using as a base line. a/f was around 10.9-11.0
next was another stock turbo with stock ports. It made 230rwhp@13psi which translate to 275rwhp. (sounds about right since he has a high flow cat). a/f was around 10.9-11.0
next was a car with the GT35R turbo and a ported engine. The car made 322rwhp@15psi. with the 20% estimate, it made 386rwhp. I think this is the car that I feel has a restrictive exhaust system. (can't remember). a/f was around 10.9-11.0
next was a TII with Davichi turbo and haltech. The car made 355rwhp@15psi. This translate to around 426rwhp on dynojet. The duty cycle was around 82% with the base pressure of 45psi running 550cc/1600cc. a/f was around 10.6-10.9 (i tuned it richer since I thought it was making a little too much hp).
Those were the cars that was tuned on the dyno. I did the rest on the street since the dyno place was closed on sunday.
Now, its hard to say if the 20% estimate is accurate or not but based on the other three cars in the middle, it seems about right. The only way to verify it is to goto a dynojet or run some 1/4 to back up the hp claims.
Only time will tell.
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08-22-05, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by EKTwin93
Are you running a Kaaz diff. Lupe?
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Originally Posted by Zero R
What 35R car was dyoned?? Was it Daves?
Didn't you say the Davinci Motorworks AF61R "non ballbearing" turbo wouldn't make any power?
426 whp @ 15psi aint too shabby. It boosted 28 lbs at 3900 rpm's. Wastegate line was hooked up wrong.
08-22-05, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LUPE
I'm running a ford mustang 8.8 solid axle/ FMS 4.30 gears. I also have a custom Davinci Motorworks 4 link rear end.
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You wish you can get 140+mph. I calculated to be around 136-137mph. That should be good for low 10's if you can launch the car correctly. fix your thermostat. It'll run too rich on anything below 70C.
I calculated to be around 136-137mph. That should be good for low 10's if you can launch the car correctly. fix your thermostat. It'll run too rich on anything below 70C.
Originally Posted by LUPE
I knew about his low Dyno numbers before. Everyone in St.Louis refuses to go to this dyno because it reads so low.
The 20% is supposed to be a simulated cf drag and a few paracitic losses. I have no idea why it's factored in but that's just the way it is. He's had many people dyno their cars on a dyno jet after using his dyno and it always comes to 20% dead on.
Taking it to the track next tuesday, that's my plans
2620lb + 533whp = 9.90 @ 144mph ...... I'd be happy with a 10.90 @ 100 mph
The 20% is supposed to be a simulated cf drag and a few paracitic losses. I have no idea why it's factored in but that's just the way it is. He's had many people dyno their cars on a dyno jet after using his dyno and it always comes to 20% dead on.
Taking it to the track next tuesday, that's my plans
2620lb + 533whp = 9.90 @ 144mph ...... I'd be happy with a 10.90 @ 100 mph
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24psi when the hose popped off. I was lucky to let off the gas before anything catastropic happened.
Originally Posted by LUPE
Daves car had your 35R.
Didn't you say the Davinci Motorworks AF61R "non ballbearing" turbo wouldn't make any power?
426 whp @ 15psi aint too shabby. It boosted 28 lbs at 3900 rpm's. Wastegate line was hooked up wrong.
Didn't you say the Davinci Motorworks AF61R "non ballbearing" turbo wouldn't make any power?
426 whp @ 15psi aint too shabby. It boosted 28 lbs at 3900 rpm's. Wastegate line was hooked up wrong.
08-22-05, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pluto
24psi when the hose popped off. I was lucky to let off the gas before anything catastropic happened.
You were lucky to not shoot through the wall when the dyno strap broke !!!!!
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You know I'm down for another trip whenever you guys are ready for me again. Thanks for your hospitiality and show me the street racing scene. Next time, we'll go clubbing instead.
Next time, we'll go clubbing instead.
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You don't realize how much your help is appreciated. You're a godsend to most people. We'll be having you out again before years end.
08-22-05, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pluto
You wish you can get 140+mph. I calculated to be around 136-137mph. That should be good for low 10's if you can launch the car correctly. fix your thermostat. It'll run too rich on anything below 70C.
I calculated to be around 136-137mph. That should be good for low 10's if you can launch the car correctly. fix your thermostat. It'll run too rich on anything below 70C. I'm going to toss in a thermostat this week for sure. Send me a sticker and I'll give you some advertisement. The fastest import in St.Louis is running high 11's so I should get some attention. You knew their was no fast cars here after sunday night...... That's our St.Louis Racing scene
08-22-05, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pluto
You know I'm down for another trip whenever you guys are ready for me again. Thanks for your hospitiality and show me the street racing scene. Next time, we'll go clubbing instead.
Next time, we'll go clubbing instead.
08-22-05, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Byck
What speed, and trap are you legal to? What PP do you have? ACT offers a XX pressure plate, and I will be the test car for their new sprung hub 6 puck.
What I need to do is cut out this heavy *** kirk roll bar and get something lighter. This tubing on this thing is enormous.
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Originally Posted by LUPE
Daves car had your 35R.
so if it was tuned at 322 RWHP@ 15psi on a dyno dynamics.
theres only 12rwhp between the dynojet and the dyno dynamics. so its roughly 3-4% difference between the 2 dynos and this is after it was tuned.
08-22-05, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LUPE
Daves car had your 35R.
Didn't you say the Davinci Motorworks AF61R "non ballbearing" turbo wouldn't make any power?
426 whp @ 15psi aint too shabby. It boosted 28 lbs at 3900 rpm's. Wastegate line was hooked up wrong.
Didn't you say the Davinci Motorworks AF61R "non ballbearing" turbo wouldn't make any power?
426 whp @ 15psi aint too shabby. It boosted 28 lbs at 3900 rpm's. Wastegate line was hooked up wrong.
Huh??? I don't think I ever said it wouldn't make power? I said I don't remember tuning that car. Is that before or after the magical 20%.
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hahaha... I still have 5 more lives left. car wreck, motorcycle wreck, strap broke, another car wreck. I think that was it that could have killed me in the past 5 yrs.
car wreck, motorcycle wreck, strap broke, another car wreck. I think that was it that could have killed me in the past 5 yrs.
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No ****, leave it to St. Louis to kill Kan.
08-22-05, 06:18 PM
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The 533 was with a correction factor of 20% !?! YOU FREAKIN' TEASE!
How about just a non-correction factor number. Jason is right, take it to a dynojet or do what others do now and post it without a correction factor. PUHLEASE!
Tony
The 533 was with a correction factor of 20% !?! YOU FREAKIN' TEASE!
How about just a non-correction factor number. Jason is right, take it to a dynojet or do what others do now and post it without a correction factor. PUHLEASE!
Tony
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that's weird, why is his car produces such little power with your turbo kit at 15psi on your dynojet? I thought it should be in the 400rwhp range? I thought after the 20% correction, 380ish rwhp sounds about right. What gives?
btw, it started out around 300ish at 15psi so I gained an additional of 20 more hp after it was said and done.
btw, it started out around 300ish at 15psi so I gained an additional of 20 more hp after it was said and done.
Originally Posted by Poweraxel
Dave's GT35R car baselined @ A-Spec about 2 or 3 weeks ago 334RWHP@ 15psi on a Dynojet
so if it was tuned at 322 RWHP@ 15psi on a dyno dynamics.
theres only 12rwhp between the dynojet and the dyno dynamics. so its roughly 3-4% difference between the 2 dynos and this is after it was tuned.
so if it was tuned at 322 RWHP@ 15psi on a dyno dynamics.
theres only 12rwhp between the dynojet and the dyno dynamics. so its roughly 3-4% difference between the 2 dynos and this is after it was tuned.