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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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Anybody running dual bosch 044 intank. want some info

hello i made 457 rwhp with my t78 at 16 psi on my street ported engine, now im planning to run more boost with race gas and im afraid of getting short of fuel press. im running a bosh 044 fuel pump but im planning on buying a cj motorsports dual fuel pump with the 044 clamps and run one pump to each rail so i have plentyof fuel, what do you guys think of these? its too muchu or it will be a safe move.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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You can never have enough fuel. The CJ kit is nice because it is a direct drop in, plus its built with quality in mind.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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yes the cj twin pump its top notch, the thing is that i dont know if running 2 lines one for each rail or "y" them up before the rails so im listening to opinions of what you guys recomended me.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Y them up imo. If one dies it won't be catastrophic..
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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i would recommend Y'ing them together and then splitting them again before the rails, this ensures even pressure to both rails. however the positive of running them seperated how you mention is that if one pump did die the car would run terrible or possibly not at all depending on which rail died. with them Y'd together you wouldnt know if one died until the car leans out under high boost, even then you might be left scratching your head on what happened until you checked the pumps.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:09 AM
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yes in that case i will have to use 2 Ys one to route the 2 pumps in to one line after the rails and then aother Y to go to both rails in this case will have the same flow the 2 rails i will save some hose but i will need 2 Ys. in this case what the hose should measure? i was thinking a half inch hose and i will have to buy 2 Ys from summit to complete the job..

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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Main reason I will not run twin pumps, one dies no matter how they are plumbed you run lean and are blowing an engine. Running one pump (properly sized) and the pump dies you have a better chance of not blowing the engine. Though you won't be going anywhere.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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so what do you recommend for the "perfect" single pump? remember it should atleast flow the same if not more than the twin 280lph bosh pumps.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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It won't be in tank but an A1000 or an SX 18203.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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^wise words ,make it simple instead of making it complicated, run a sumped tank with either pump mentioned by fritts..had the same response from everyone I asked..
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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well my other option was to run the aeromotive a1000 but intank i dont wani it outside, if some of you guys have pics or know how to put this baby intank i will apreciate the info i think it will simplify my life but custom work have to be done of course
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=in+tank+a1000

old but good, the rest of the threads i found were discussions on gravity fed pumps such as the A1000, this is closely related to your but it was short.

why dont you want to run a sumped tank??
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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another option would be a Kenne Bell Boost A Pump (BAP).:



note the red control module and the adj dial...

this simple setup, which only works during boost, ran my 850/1600s to 90% duty cycle maintaining pressure. i log my fuel pressure so i KNOW my pressure at all points on my map.

the BAP sure makes things simple. i have run it at a 20% voltage boost w my Cosmo pump for five years.

currently i run about 20+% methanol so my duty cycle is down about 15 points...

simple. love it.

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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I run the MSD Pump Booster (which I think is very similar to the Kenne Bell version) with my Bosch 044, and my fuel pressure was rock solid at 14PSI and 430 RWHP -- with the pump gain set to the minimum. I feel confident this setup could fuel a much higher power level.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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thanks for the info guys, i think my best and simple option here in to mount the a100 alone i will opena thrad to se how many people have done this.

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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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the a1000 is a peice of junk, if you like keeping your motor together run the dual 044 bosch pumps. they are oem quality and last forever. the a 1000 WILL fail after a year or so if you put any rear miles on your car. also the a1000 dosent like to sit in traffic it will get hot and shorten its life span even more. i've been running dual 044's for 8 years now with not one single fuel related issue.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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another thought? are the Bosch 044 intank pumps? thought they were inline.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Indian
another thought? are the Bosch 044 intank pumps? thought they were inline.
Any flow-thru pump can be mounted in a tank. The pump doesn't care. Mine's outside the tank, but I think I'd put it in the tank if I had to do it over again. It's kinda loud.

Also, I agree with the comments on the durability of the A1000. If you're dead set on running one, get the pump controller. The pump is made for drag race -- read intermittent use. If it is used steady state, the PWM controller is needed to keep temps under control and durability up.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Not in tank but:
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/dual-bosch-pump-setup-%2Apix%2A-735559/
I would also suggest a large single or dual feed lines. Cavitation is what kills alot of race pumps.
A single 044 and kenne belle boost-a-pump would be a sweet setup too.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 01:45 AM
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yes i thing ill pass with the a1000 i will be running dual bosch with the cjmotorsports dual sistem

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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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hello my friends i found a very nice pic of what i want to do i been told that is a member of the forum so if you know ho did this i will aprciate the info, is the same thing i want to do has dual bosch 044 fuel pumps with the cj motorsports twin pump bracket but i dontknow the size of the hoses and fittings. my rx7store.net fuel sistem has 6an fittings so i wonder if i use 6an as well to do this or should i use 8an or 10an. all the info will be apreciate.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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the CJM twin pump assembly has -6 bulkhead fittings, so if you currently have 2 -6 feed lines and one -6 return line by your tank, it should all just hook up.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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as for the intank plumbing, im not sure where to get it, but you need a fitting that threads into the top of the pump and adapts to a -6 AN male. Then you will need a total of 4 -6 Tube/Nut assemblys, some aluminum -6 hardpipe, a 3/8 tube bender, and a 37 degree flaring tool. That will allow you to construct hardpipes in there like that setup has.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Does anyone have contact information including a website for CJM?
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fritts
It won't be in tank but an A1000 or an SX 18203.
They are a little noisy(a1000), and I have heard they are not great everyday performers..they get hot.

I have seen some weldon setups dailydriven without issue...on long trips too...
I've seen a few 2025a setups and there seems to be more than plenty of fuel there....
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