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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 07:52 PM
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Was on the dyno a few days ago and had a similar problem. After my fourth run at 19lbs of boost we noticed it started leaning out slightly after 6500 rpm. We decided to up the fuel pressure because the duty cycles were getting kinda high and the problem got worse. After two more pull where I had to lift off earlier and earlier because my AFRs were rising quickly, the operator did a run with outside watching the mechanical fuel pressure. He said the pressure rose from 45 to 60 but at high rpm would take a dive and that's where I would be lifting throttle. Luckily the motor didn't get hurt but I'm a little puzzled as I thought this pump would support over 500whp. I only made 418 at 18.8lbs. I'm gonna change the fuel filter and fuel pump as I have a new Walbro 400 in my garage and see if the problem goes away. Also I will check the wiring for anything fishy. Also, I was running 1 oz per gallon Protek R and the tank was almost completely full.
LOL you gotta be kidding me . i had this same issue and made same power at 18 psi and at high rpms fuel pressure drops
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MOBEONER
If A picture is worth a thousand words......................... Need i say more

looks like ur stealth is just a walbro rebadged but then again what do i know, i dont use it..
looks like it, but is not, look inside by the small whole and see the difference
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jmm8904
Was on the dyno a few days ago and had a similar problem. After my fourth run at 19lbs of boost we noticed it started leaning out slightly after 6500 rpm. We decided to up the fuel pressure because the duty cycles were getting kinda high and the problem got worse. After two more pull where I had to lift off earlier and earlier because my AFRs were rising quickly, the operator did a run with outside watching the mechanical fuel pressure. He said the pressure rose from 45 to 60 but at high rpm would take a dive and that's where I would be lifting throttle. Luckily the motor didn't get hurt but I'm a little puzzled as I thought this pump would support over 500whp. I only made 418 at 18.8lbs. I'm gonna change the fuel filter and fuel pump as I have a new Walbro 400 in my garage and see if the problem goes away. Also I will check the wiring for anything fishy. Also, I was running 1 oz per gallon Protek R and the tank was almost completely full.
A few years ago I had a similar situation.

Is your fuel pump rewired?
If so check the amperage of the relay.
When I had the same situation on the dyno my wires were getting hot. I ended up losing the motor but later found out my voltage was dropping as the wires got hot. Less voltage = less fuel pressure.
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Double_J
A few years ago I had a similar situation.

Is your fuel pump rewired?
If so check the amperage of the relay.
When I had the same situation on the dyno my wires were getting hot. I ended up losing the motor but later found out my voltage was dropping as the wires got hot. Less voltage = less fuel pressure.
Was this with the OEM wires or 10 gauge?
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 03:48 AM
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My fuel pump is rewired with 8 gauge straight to the battery. I changed to the Walbro 400 and haven't had a problem in over a year. I haven't been back to the dyno though but I have run over 22 PSI and haven't run lean. If you put the 400 next to the 340 it looks way beefier.
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Old Dec 14, 2015 | 06:54 AM
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Install photos

I know it's an old thread but I thought these photos may assist someone.













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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 07:13 PM
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Nice pics, thanks for posting

Consider swapping out that sealing gasket for a brand new one, especially if you ever smell a hint of fuel vapor in the car
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 07:52 PM
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Also consider running heavier gauge wire through a pass-through bulkhead connector. The 340s suck a LOT of current!

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What I do is get a bulkhead pass-through from Summit (one of the plastic fuel cell companies makes them) and then I put a Weatherpak connector on it so you can still drop the tank or otherwise disconnect it from the car. Weatherpaks are easy to assemble and the tools to do it are practically generic. I run 14 gauge from the pump to the (close mounted) relay and 10-8 gauge from the battery to the relay.

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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 09:14 PM
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Throwing mine in, S4 Turbo.

-Wired with new 10 gauge wire to the stock positive bulkhead "post" and negative to the frame.
-Non-insulated crimp terminals on the new wiring
-Chemical/Diesel resistant wire and shrink wrap from McMaster Carr.
-Gasoline resistant fuel tubing from Amazon (walbro brand).
-Stainless zip-tied the pump to the frame (otherwise, the smaller body is a bit loose).

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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Nice pics, thanks for posting

Consider swapping out that sealing gasket for a brand new one, especially if you ever smell a hint of fuel vapor in the car
Just looking at this photo again I think I may of got the polarity switched around, anyone able to confirm this for me please.
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AUS-FD3S
I know it's an old thread but I thought these photos may assist someone.


Are you sure that the fuel pump to hard line connection holds pressure???
Does not look ideal to me...
Generally one would cut the "bulb" bit off the stock fuel pump hanger and connect the pump to the hardline with a short section of submersible fuel hose & hose clamps.

Not sure that stock "bulb thing" will seal properly with anything but the stock fuel pump (and even then it sucks). I personally doubt that's going to hold 60psi + of pressure..but you never know.
Most people would do like this (its a walbro 400, but the same applies)



I would suggest redoing the fuel pump to hardline connection like the above image.

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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 07:46 AM
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96fd3s, thanks for the advice, I will do exactly what you have suggested as I plan to run near 60psi, what pressure are the stock hardlines good for?
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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Not sure what pressure the hardlines can take, way more pressure than you would ever run though. (500+ psi?, maybe more, just guessing) You don't need to worry about them as far as pressure goes though.
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Old Aug 1, 2018 | 01:37 PM
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Here is my install.

There is an install kit you can get and it mounts onto the stock hanger without modification.


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Old Aug 16, 2018 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pd_day
Here is my install.

There is an install kit you can get and it mounts onto the stock hanger without modification.

I think you may be at risk of losing fuel pressure with the pump attached to the hard line with the stock fitting. Should cut that off, de-bur, and join the pump to the line with SAE30R10 submersible FI hose. Also, consider bypassing the stock connector. Pretty common failure point and will also cause pressure loss.
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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 03:39 PM
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I wonder if the factory bulb on the hard line may be my issue? I have mine wired and mounted about the same and ran out of fuel on the dyno at 430whp this summer, I thought the pump would do at least 500? I have a #10 feed of the battery to a relay and an aftermarket bulkhead running parallel #14 wires to the pump. I have been debating on duel pumps or a boost a pump?
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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 06:26 PM
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You need to recognize the pump flows are only rated at 3 bar, if you are running 1.5 bar boost and have the pressure drop of the filter and lines you will be a fair way down the flow curve on the pump if it is seeing more 5.X bar pressure head.
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