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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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The tires will get tossed. I'm looking for new wheels, as I need to replace the dry-rotted 15-yo tires anyway. I'm probably looking at a 225/50 or 55, but I was just concerned with the fitment of the wheels.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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I like the look of the wheels but they do sit out a bit. Tires got to go.

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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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wheels look good, longer studs with spacers to match up the rear track as well as maybe some flairs and you're good. Oh yeah, lower profile tires that aren't 15 years old would help a LOT.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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I started thinking, and the circumference is what will save me. If the circumference is the same, then it'll sit exactly on 16s as it does on 14s. The tires stick out past the fenders (which already ARE flared, Chris) but the wheel lips look pretty close. I've got to do some tire selection work to see what I can get away with.

So what do y'all think, original aluminum finish, or white?

Time to do some TII brakes ....
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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Let's try this. Put the big tires on the back and the little tires on the front.
its not that easy. They probably are all 4 the same size. The repu's front will do that with an 8" rim.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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Time to do some TII brakes ....
TII and 6 lug has not been made yet. I have been waiting myself.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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i started thinking, and the circumference is what will save me. If the circumference is the same, then it'll sit exactly on 16s as it does on 14s. The tires stick out past the fenders (which already are flared, chris) but the wheel lips look pretty close. I've got to do some tire selection work to see what i can get away with.

So what do y'all think, original aluminum finish, or white?

Time to do some tii brakes ....
moar flairz!
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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So after being an OGTA member for almost 2 years, you guys convinced me to get this

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It's an 85 something. GS maybe? I just know that it's got manual windows, no sunroof from the factory (although there's a crappy little aftermarket one on there...), and air conditioning. I didn't look to see if the rears were disc or not... didn't FB's come both ways there? Anyways, it's mine. And oh yeah, it'll run! My uncle and I got it to run while spraying a steady stream of starting fluid in the carb for around 45 seconds. I pulled the plugs and the compression pops are all even, so the seals are there. I put about a gallon of gas in it, but none is getting to the carb. The seller says it's got a new fuel pump, but I don't know for sure. Can you change these fuel pumps without dropping the tank like you can FC's? What else... It needs a new grey drivers seat since that ones ripped, and a new set of door panels would be nice too. It needs a good, good cleaning, but the paint just might be salvagable with some claybar and wax. The paint is chipping right above the tail light and there's a small bit of surface rust, but nothing major. I looked where Chris's car had all that rust and didn't see any here. The body is about perfect- there might be 2 dents on the whole car, and they're nothing. All the tires are good, and hold air on the nice X wheels. Some p/o decided it would be cool to paint half the interior plastics white... that's gotta go. A few dash pieces are missing too, but no big deal since I know you guys are loaded with parts Anyways, that's it. I'm trying to load the video of it now but my computer doesn't want to recognize my phone.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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You'll find it's either an S or GS. Technically, GS cars could get discs as an option, but I've never actually seen a disc GS. A few pics of the interior fabric, dash, and whether it's Power Windows and/or Mirrors will tell a lot.

The fuel pump and fuel filter are both external to the tank, right where the driver's frame rail starts to jog up and over the axle, just ahead of the rear wheel. Being a S3 car, you'll find parts a little easier, especially among the OGTA guys.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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The rust I had was SUPER rare. Those bin covers are galvanized rust resistant steel, the area to check for rust is underneath the bins in the rear fender well.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Fire85GSLSE
TII and 6 lug has not been made yet. I have been waiting myself.

No sense in waiting! The rotor bolts to the back of the hub, like the FB, so there shouldn't be too much work involved in getting the fit right. The GSL-SE already had some TII calipers and hubs waiting for it, so they'll get robbed, just like the RX-2 gave up its motor for the truck.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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Hey Ray, thanks for getting us together for lunch today. You finally pulled it off, although, Mike didn't get to join us today. I enjoyed the lunch. Only 1 point today for the 12A count. Give yourself a trophy Ray. And 4 boingers, at Zero. Good that the "old guys" can change it up a bit. Thanks for lunch.

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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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Still trying to figure out this video crap... Here's another picture, though. Thanks for the quick replies too. I'll check all of that out when I see the car again.

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Does anyone have an extra carb that I could borrow along with a fuel pump? I can pay for the fuel pump, if not the carb too if the one on there now doesn't work.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by brettlinton7
so after being an ogta member for almost 2 years, you guys convinced me to get this




it's an 85 something. Gs maybe? I just know that it's got manual windows, no sunroof from the factory (although there's a crappy little aftermarket one on there...), and air conditioning. I didn't look to see if the rears were disc or not... Didn't fb's come both ways there? Anyways, it's mine. And oh yeah, it'll run! My uncle and i got it to run while spraying a steady stream of starting fluid in the carb for around 45 seconds. I pulled the plugs and the compression pops are all even, so the seals are there. I put about a gallon of gas in it, but none is getting to the carb. The seller says it's got a new fuel pump, but i don't know for sure. Can you change these fuel pumps without dropping the tank like you can fc's? What else... It needs a new grey drivers seat since that ones ripped, and a new set of door panels would be nice too. It needs a good, good cleaning, but the paint just might be salvagable with some claybar and wax. The paint is chipping right above the tail light and there's a small bit of surface rust, but nothing major. I looked where chris's car had all that rust and didn't see any here. The body is about perfect- there might be 2 dents on the whole car, and they're nothing. All the tires are good, and hold air on the nice x wheels. Some p/o decided it would be cool to paint half the interior plastics white... That's gotta go. A few dash pieces are missing too, but no big deal since i know you guys are loaded with parts anyways, that's it. I'm trying to load the video of it now but my computer doesn't want to recognize my phone.
congratulations brett!!!
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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VIDEO! Finally.

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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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nice brett. get a good charge on that battery. look under the rear bins for rust. how long had it been sitting? may need a good carb cleaning along with the tank. was it sold as a running car? wish u weren't so far away, would love to help u fiddle with it.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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Wow, Brett is moving way up in the world!! Nice find Brett. The body looks nice and straight, no serious rust. Looks like a great project and investment. That car just needs a little TLC, you can tell by the way the driver's door closes it's in great shape under that grime.

What's the mileage? Where'd you get it? How much? Where is it now? Is there plenty of fresh gas in the tank? You need to get those X wheels lined up, they are a little out of adjustment.

Before you go tearing into the carb and fuel pump do some diagnostics to see what the problem is. The first thing is easy, look down into the carb primaries, the smaller orifices looking up at you in the Nikki (it's a Nikki Brett, not a carb). There should be fuel squirting out when the accelerator is depressed.

If not, check the view windows on the sides of the carb bowls, there should be gas about halfway up the windows on both the front and back of the carb. If not, it could be the floats are stuck, like Billy mentioned earlier. This is an easy fix but check some other things first.

No fuel might just be a clogged fuel filter, on a car that has been sitting like that you should just replace the filter, then are only a few bucks and it only takes a few minutes (located near the back axle, on the driver's side).

With the new fuel filter in, if you still aren't getting gas at the carb, check the fuel pump by removing the fuel line at the carb and sticking it in a gallon milk jug. Turn the car over, fuel should be flowing into the jug as long as you are turning the key. If it looks good, it probably is good, but you can also do a flow check by seeing how long it takes to fill the jug halfway (check the FSM for this - you have downloaded the FSM already, right? You may also want to pick up a Haines manual for handy reference while working under the hood).

If you are getting good fuel flow at the carb but no fuel in the bowls, remove the top half of the carb to check those float valves. Read the chapter on Nikki's first! It's a piece of cake and once you have mastered the Nikki you will feel superior to folks with fuel injection.

If you decide the carb needs a rebuild, take it off, pick up a kit ($25 at autozone) and come on over this weekend, I'll set you up and show you how to do it.

More pics and/or move the camera more slowly while you are taking the video!

Congrats!
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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I started thinking, and the circumference is what will save me. If the circumference is the same, then it'll sit exactly on 16s as it does on 14s. The tires stick out past the fenders (which already ARE flared, Chris) but the wheel lips look pretty close. I've got to do some tire selection work to see what I can get away with.

So what do y'all think, original aluminum finish, or white?

Time to do some TII brakes ....
I like the aluminum finish and the way the wheels stickout a little past the flares. After all, it is a truck. A really, really cool truck.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 09:06 AM
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Thanks a bunch I'm definitely excited about learning all about the FB world. I went to the 1st gen section for the first time EVER last night and was kind of overwhelmed since half of the stuff I learned about my car doesn't apply to this new one. But it'll be a fun learning experience... I've always wanted to walk outside to leave and be like 'Whick RX7 do I wanna drive?' and now I can! Anyways, on with the answers.

What's the mileage? 225,000 Miles. It's a lot, but ya'll say FB's run forever, right?
Where'd you get it? Cartersville, GA- about 90 mins from my place.
How much? He asked $500, I paid $350.
Where is it now? Cartersville. I'm debating on if I should try to get it running and drive it that long way home, or if I can find a decent deal to tow it like a dolly and a friends truck or a family friend's towing business. We'll see shortly.
Is there plenty of fresh gas in the tank? About a gallon, and the tank had been drained before the car sat. Is there a chance that there isn't enough gas to get to the pump?

A few more things- the guy has had the car since '03, and drive it until '07 then parked it. Then about a year later he tried getting it running again and took it to a shop, and they said the floats needed to be 'set'. So he brought it back home and it's been sitting again for the last 8 months. That sunroof on it leaks, and the passenger seat has some nice green gunk in it that will hopefully clean up. The pass. floorboard carpet looks dingy too from the leak. It needs 2 new door panels and a drivers seat at the least. Besides that and that ricer paint on the interior it's all good besides needing to be cleaned and a few dash plastics.

On the exterior there's a small amount of surface rust above the tail lights, but nothing crazy and totally fixable. Both doors are LOUD, but line up and shut easily. The drivers tail light might need to be replaced. All the wheels are good with good tires that are dry-rot free. The hood is good, just not bolted back on from being in the shop. And that's about it...

And not to sound like a chick or anything, but I'm really glad I've got you guys to help me. I definitely wouldn't have gotten this if I knew I didn't have you experts to get advice from.

About getting it running- the carb isn't getting any fuel at all... I pulled both lines and they're wet around the edges but no fuel drips out or anything. I didn't think to pull the lines off and hit the key. It's only got a gallon of gas though, so could it maybe need more? And I haven't checked anything on the carb... I didn't even know where those windows were until you just told me. I do remember that the jets or whatever weren't spraying anything though. I need to go find a diagram of one to learn from

And I'll finish soon. I'm calling around about towing, and possibly playing with my 5-lug for a little bit.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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Before you go tearing into the carb and fuel pump do some diagnostics to see what the problem is. The first thing is easy, look down into the carb primaries, the smaller orifices looking up at you in the Nikki (it's a Nikki Brett, not a carb). There should be fuel squirting out when the accelerator is depressed.

If not, check the view windows on the sides of the carb bowls, there should be gas about halfway up the windows on both the front and back of the carb. If not, it could be the floats are stuck, like Billy mentioned earlier. This is an easy fix but check some other things first.

No fuel might just be a clogged fuel filter, on a car that has been sitting like that you should just replace the filter, then are only a few bucks and it only takes a few minutes (located near the back axle, on the driver's side).

With the new fuel filter in, if you still aren't getting gas at the carb, check the fuel pump by removing the fuel line at the carb and sticking it in a gallon milk jug. Turn the car over, fuel should be flowing into the jug as long as you are turning the key. If it looks good, it probably is good, but you can also do a flow check by seeing how long it takes to fill the jug halfway (check the FSM for this - you have downloaded the FSM already, right? You may also want to pick up a Haines manual for handy reference while working under the hood).

If you are getting good fuel flow at the carb but no fuel in the bowls, remove the top half of the carb to check those float valves. Read the chapter on Nikki's first! It's a piece of cake and once you have mastered the Nikki you will feel superior to folks with fuel injection.

If you decide the carb needs a rebuild, take it off, pick up a kit ($25 at autozone) and come on over this weekend, I'll set you up and show you how to do it.
Brett, what Ray said. If you get to where you need a fuel pump, I have one. I also have a set of seats. The driver seat has a couple of small tears and is worn, but much better than the one in the car.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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Brett, what Ray said. If you get to where you need a fuel pump, I have one. I also have a set of seats. The driver seat has a couple of small tears and is worn, but much better than the one in the car.
Thanks- I just might have to come give those a look! BTW- Could you let Jim know that the deal I had on the bumper and tag section fell through, and that he can have those for his sons 'vert? He told me to tell you if I still had them for sale. If you see him around my # is 77O 561 7835. I'll let you know about the fuel pump and everything soon, thanks for that and the offer on the seats!

And I got all giddy and made a thread in the FB section...

https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generation-specific-1979-1985-18/i-never-thought-id-section-new-fb-850966/
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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Brett, I don't want to imply that you are sounding like a chick or something, but put some gas in the car....

Crit, I'm with Mike on the Silver (don't call it aluminum, sounds cheap)
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Crit, I'm with Mike on the Silver (don't call it aluminum, sounds cheap)
I think the white would look good with the blue, unless Crit's planning to repaint the truck another color.

And more gas it is... I might just ride back over there tonight
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Brett I was going to offer to go over there to "Cartersville" with you and help get that new FB going but then I google mapped it:

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That is some rough and dangerous territory for a limping car, nothing more miserable than a car without power or brakes at 55+ mph. I know, I picked up the White One in Marietta, rode over with a friend and put a master cylinder in and took it out on the highway. It took me 2.5 hours to make it back to Jefferson, with frequent stops at gas stations to plot strategy. More challenge than I was looking for.

I'd recommend a tow, then invite me over to have my way with that Nikki.
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 12:39 AM
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Brett I was going to offer to go over there to "Cartersville" with you and help get that new FB going but then I google mapped it:

That is some rough and dangerous territory for a limping car, nothing more miserable than a car without power or brakes at 55+ mph. I know, I picked up the White One in Marietta, rode over with a friend and put a master cylinder in and took it out on the highway. It took me 2.5 hours to make it back to Jefferson, with frequent stops at gas stations to plot strategy. More challenge than I was looking for.

I'd recommend a tow, then invite me over to have my way with that Nikki.
A tow it is, so hopefully the car will be at my place around 2 pm. If you really wanted to make the 45 min drive from your place to mine, I'd totally pay for your gas and your expert advice If not though, I could grab the carb along with a ton of pictures and head over to your house whenever you're avaliable.

You guys rock
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