WTF are you talking about?? If you listen to the BOV, you can hear it going off in stages, a flutter if you will. That is compressor surge. That damages the turbine. And the comment in the last paragraph, I won't even waste my time on that one.

 

I think you might be a little mistaken as to what we are discussing.

 

too many s2gays=too much time to f*ck around with them

 

I think they are nice cars, except for the dash board. Worst gauge cluster ever.

 

I've actually talked to the guy with the RX-7 before. The engine was never put into the car, he was missing a few things, so they never actually ran the "crappy rotary" engine that they had. He also had an XS Engineering turbo kit along with a few supporting mods. I say "a few" because he didn't have any reliability mods (at least not that he mentioned). He never mentioned what a "full race engine" meant, but I'm guess it was just a rebuilt and ported engine.

 

theyre actually nice cars interior to exterior to a reliable *** motor
its just some honda kids messin up the scene

 

I know exactly what you were talking about.

I was just saying theres always something to comment about when its NOT about a rotary, out of envy or whatever the case maybe. When we belong on a forum where our cars are named one of the most unreliable sports cars made. And we have to talk about some compressor surge on a ******* 1/4 monster? LOL thats why its funny.

But i bet if someone posted a video of an FD spitting flames and popping with his rear bumper all black and **** from the exhaust, that will get some of you a woody.

 

I love these threads, it really shows how some people are blinded by the truth.

I see reality and yes i still have the 13B in my car, does that mean i have to close all the gates to reality? No, the engine is unreliable, and is problematic but i dont care, thats why i bought the ******* car cause i love it. I know a better engine when i see one. It doesnt take much brains to know why people prefer LS1's in FD's or getting a supra and going all out with that, or going with this new swap now with the 2JZ in an S2k. They know a good basepoint for performance, they went with it.

And no i never had a blown engine (knock on wood) so i dont say these things out of anger as some people here do. I just face facts and present them to people who cant see them.

It doesnt work well as i can see in this thread but im sure over time you people will learn.

 

Rob, you need to go get laid, my man. Your negativity gets a little old after a while......

 

lol If only you knew what i had in the past rich, your jaw would drop.

And i currently have a new gf now, the masturbation has been put on hold for the time being

 

i guess it was just a matter of time, it seems every other japanese RWD has had a JZ swap or 2 (yawn). the car was done very clean and seems like a fun idea, but i want to see something more unique than just another JZ .... something like using an NSX motor set up longitudinally ( ill try it if someone gives me a s2000 and a NSX motor ). im curious what that s2000's weight distribution is now w/ 2 more cylinders and an iron block,same for the JZ RX-7's

 

Umm when was the last time a 2jz powerd car won the 24 hours at le Mans??
Last time I checked the only japanese car to win it was the 787B...oh and waddya know, it's a rotary.
Don't get me wrong i like the 2jz and all, but that 787B is freakin sweet.

 

jealousy? no, I don't agree. I don't aspire to own an S2000. My best friend owns one. If I wanted to drive it, I'd just take his out, but I don't. I just find it ironic that such a self described badass tuner would have such an issue.

 

yeah.. i wouldnt give my car to a that guy that thinks rotaries max out at 450 +/-. I guys rotaries run in the high 7's with 450 =P ahaha. sorry, had to be a smart *** on this one

 

Most unreliable sports car ever made, hrm. How about, "Most abused and un-maintained sports car ever made resulting in common engine failures."

They are certainly more prone to failure due to user error, but not most unreliable.

 

thats the first smart thing to be said on this thread. you know whats funny about all the people that are mad at him for saying crap about rotaries. why not instead of posting trash why not go out and make you car better. so people will understand and respect the rotary for what it is. a true enigeering marvel.

 

Yeah, you obviously dont understand what im trying to say.

I was using the S2k because thats the topic of this thread. But what i really meant was ANY car that poses a threat on what could be a "better" than our praised cars makes people just put their heads down and let them think out of their ***. Like they see, a 2JZ makes 811rwhp on stock bottom end, people will say, o umm yeah, its still a heavy engine. WTF? I mean seriously, you guys give no credit to a good engine at all, only thing i can think of of what makes people comment to something like that is jealousey, that or pure hate on any other engine besides the rotary.

Sure the 787B won lemans, thats great. Congrats to them. Thats not a production engine. I wanna see a 13B do that. Better yet, i wanna see the 787B compete now if they could against some of the cars/engines being produced today. They wont win.

 

User error?

LOL i expected to hear something like that. Thats the only defense you guys bring to the table.

Its getting old rather. Just another denial reply i guess. haha

 

Was I the only one that picked up on him only 9psi because his stock rear end cant handle more power? He did mention putting in a Silvia rear end and turning it up to 30psi.

I like the car, but his referance to the crap rotary is retarded. I wouldnt mind having the car, just wouldnt want to work on it.

I love S2Ks, and would probably trade my FC for it if I had a chance.

 

Wtf? Everyone always complains about blowing their engine up when the real story behind the engine failure is their own inability to actually BUILD the engine properly or tune it properly.

On a stock engine most common engine failure is overheating due to... Ah User error? Not properly maintaining your car? Yeah. Guess how hard it is to know that your engine needs Coolant, or oil? Sure a rotary is more sensitive to overheating.

I've daily driven 4 seperate rotaries over the past 7 years. I've never blown any of them, 2 N/a and 2 Boosted. The most problems I've had have been stock electrical problems. The only engines I've had rebuilt are engines that were either low compression or blown when I bought them (due to user error, like leaving the wastegate actuator arm off). Afterwards I flipped those cars for way more then I put into them.

The only engineering failures in these cars are the pulsation dampeners, automatic seat belts and the AST. All very easily fixed issues, and none of them relating to internal engine compents.

The engines don't take detonation like a piston engine. However detonation isn't caused by an engine, it's caused by the tuner making mistakes, fuel starvation... etc, items unrelated to the engine itself.

The misnomer of "Unreliable Rotary" is spread by those that have no idea what they are doing with an Rx-7.

 

even still, a piston engine isn't invincible to the negative effects of detonation. My boss's LS1 C5 detonated on the dyno and blew out the #7 and #8 piston rings. Detonation will kill any engine, it seems more like the fact that rotaries are different to tune and run warmer, they are more proned to detonate.

 

this guy in the video sems to be Mr know it all , and people like that you cant tell them or teach them anything cuz they know it all !!!!!!!!!!! idiot.

 

A properly "built" engine will run about 60k on average with normal driving (some spirited driving, regular maint. etc). Thats 60k IF you're lucky.

User error? So basically a shitty radiator, the stock bullshit precat that holds heat and is likely to clog, shitty FPD's, not to mention POS vacuum lines that COME from factory is part of user error? Jeez, i didnt know its now our job to make a list of everything to replace before we buy these cars, i thought they shouldnt be classified under "unreliable"?? Well thats alot of stuff to do to a car before you can have fun with it.

I wont even get into the subject of HEATSOAK. Now that subject in itself will run this thread thin real quick. "Wait guys, ill meet up with you in hooters in a bit, i just gotta keep my hood open for 10 minutes otherwise the heat will cook my seals!!"

LOL

Just because you didnt blow any doesnt mean anything. I am not saying every single rx7 out there is a POS. They are bad luck ones and good luck ones. I had my car for 3 years with ZERO engine problems, it was only the little **** that kept my car down from time to time. But generally speaking, the cars itself are problematic, i dont understand why other people cant grasp this fact.

You're right. What about stuck seals from not starting it after a while, heatsoak like i mentioned above, EASILY prone to detonation from like a 2psi + boost spike lol.

Face it, the engine is ok but its a ******* nightmare. Its annoying as a 16 year old white girl at her sweet 16.

Detonation is not only caused by tuner mistakes, other engine related parts fail at ANY time during driving, you can have a stuck closed injector and be boosting on the highway and there goes your engine. The engine is not strong enough nor built correctly to take those little "mistakes". Why do you think there isnt even a cure for those detonation problems? How long as the rotary been around? Isnt there R&D being worked into this problem? Im sure there is but they have no answer yet, thats because its relatively impossible.

[qupte]The misnomer of "Unreliable Rotary" is spread by those that have no idea what they are doing with an Rx-7.[/QUOTE]


I disagree, look around you man, even veterans are taking the rotary out and putting LS1's in there. Its just a better platform.

Only people who keep the rotary in their car are people who always loved the rotary, people who can work on them and people who just wont suck it up and admit something else is better by putting something else better.


Thank you. My friends evo made 376AWHP on 3cyl 2 months ago lol. His 2nd or 3rd cyl i forget somehow just stop firing from 3500rpm.

ANNNNNDDD he detonated too. Spiked to 24psi.

 

Im a fan of doing odd stuff like that...you got to give credit for the wrench time and effort put in to get it done. However, the guy is an obvious idiot. If hes a supposedly honda tech....then im sure hes aware of that the stock S2K rear can handle quite a bit of power as well as the motor making very good power on pump gas. Theres quite a few S2Ks i know of that are over the 450hp on stock internals. With the money hes talking about for that swap he can get the S2K well over the 800hp mark. Hell if anyone wants a high powered s2k send me $15k and my guys can get it done.

 

this is why we have a ls1 fd
i keed!