Shoemaker Part 2
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Shoemaker Part 2
Well it's about that time again. I'm planning on changing a few things for next year.
I have retired the IRS suspension and the 8.5" tires. I wish I wouldve went a bit faster as I knew I could've gone alot faster it was just a matter of getting everything sorted properly. I wish I could've had a bit more time with it but it's time to move on.
So sometime next week DL Racepoint will begin the new chassis work.
Its finally going to get cut up and getting a nice set of big shoes
Engine will be replaced by a 2.3L Mazda 4 cylinder.
Thanks Dee for all your tips today that was very cool of you. If you ever need anything just let me know. I'm sure I'll probably need something else from you anyhow.
I'm not giving up on the rotary just looking to try something different.
Besides I will be running 2 rx-7's next year and thought it would be cool to have
Two mazda's out there with a rotary in one and Mazda piston in the other.
I will be posting pics and updates as soon as I have some so stay tuned.
Goal for next year is to put both cars in the 6's.
I have retired the IRS suspension and the 8.5" tires. I wish I wouldve went a bit faster as I knew I could've gone alot faster it was just a matter of getting everything sorted properly. I wish I could've had a bit more time with it but it's time to move on.
So sometime next week DL Racepoint will begin the new chassis work.
Its finally going to get cut up and getting a nice set of big shoes
Engine will be replaced by a 2.3L Mazda 4 cylinder.
Thanks Dee for all your tips today that was very cool of you. If you ever need anything just let me know. I'm sure I'll probably need something else from you anyhow.
I'm not giving up on the rotary just looking to try something different.
Besides I will be running 2 rx-7's next year and thought it would be cool to have
Two mazda's out there with a rotary in one and Mazda piston in the other.
I will be posting pics and updates as soon as I have some so stay tuned.
Goal for next year is to put both cars in the 6's.
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ahhh shame as the car is now a world wide legend for IRS Rotary cars.
But hey you got move forward if want to go faster.
What /axle bar/driveshafts and CV joints/stubs were you running in the car, are they compatiable with the FD, Im still on stock axles with a KAZZ diff?
But hey you got move forward if want to go faster.
What /axle bar/driveshafts and CV joints/stubs were you running in the car, are they compatiable with the FD, Im still on stock axles with a KAZZ diff?
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ok i think u should have just bought or built another car n left urs the way it was as ur car was already running good,,, we know tht u saw how hard it is to deal with irs on an rx7 so dont take this the wrong way we r not hating honestly we r very happy tht u ran wat u ran but we just think u gave up too easy..wat a shame..
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Holy ****, daughter? I wouldn't have been nagging you about the phone calls if I knew that! Congratulations, what are your plans for the old engine and rear end setup? Hmm...
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My brother's car will pick up on some of my car's tricks for next year..
since my "street class" car was alway's quoted as a race car, my brother's car is a pure street car.. so no one can complain..
And now my car can become a real race car..
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For the record, I am not quitting, giving up, etc..
I will still race a 13B turbo RX-7 next year as well as my own RX-7 with mazda 4 cyl.
Don't think of it as quitting but as expanding into another area.
I enjoy challenges and need to keep my mind going or i'll lose interest..
I would've probably kept the IRS for another year but was offered to sell my suspension and couldn't pass up the offer so I figured it was time to move on.
I had my setup going 8.6's like a bracket car and then added a bit more power and tried goodyear 8.5" tires and had no luck with those tires.. I know if I would've went back to my old tires i could've gone 8.0's or better..
I'll save my latest tricks for the other RX-7 for next year.. I really expect that one to go 6's by the end of 2011 as well as my own. So that will make 2 RX-7's in the 6's with both mazda powerplants. (rotary & piston).
I know it's hard for some to see a piston motor in an RX-7 but you have to realize how much work it is go racing with a rotary car and then to have a family on top to that plus add in another rotary race car for next year. I had to do something. So my best move was to keep one as a rotary and make one a piston and race both...
I will still race a 13B turbo RX-7 next year as well as my own RX-7 with mazda 4 cyl.
Don't think of it as quitting but as expanding into another area.
I enjoy challenges and need to keep my mind going or i'll lose interest..
I would've probably kept the IRS for another year but was offered to sell my suspension and couldn't pass up the offer so I figured it was time to move on.
I had my setup going 8.6's like a bracket car and then added a bit more power and tried goodyear 8.5" tires and had no luck with those tires.. I know if I would've went back to my old tires i could've gone 8.0's or better..
I'll save my latest tricks for the other RX-7 for next year.. I really expect that one to go 6's by the end of 2011 as well as my own. So that will make 2 RX-7's in the 6's with both mazda powerplants. (rotary & piston).
I know it's hard for some to see a piston motor in an RX-7 but you have to realize how much work it is go racing with a rotary car and then to have a family on top to that plus add in another rotary race car for next year. I had to do something. So my best move was to keep one as a rotary and make one a piston and race both...
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That's cool and all but I would rather sell my rx7 than put a piston engine in it. Sorry, but I'm a diehard rotary fan and call me nuts but I think putting a piston engine in an Rx7 is disgraceful and well.... just not right. If you're going to go over to the dark side with a piston engine setup, then why not just switch over to a different chassis like Dee K. did?
Even if you run a 6 second pass in your piston engine rx7, rotary guys are going to say, " but it's got a piston engine in it, WTF?" and the piston guys are going to say, " but it's in an rx7, WTF?"
I guess it all boils down to whatever floats your boat and what you like. I however think that switching over to piston engine setups because of money or sponsership issues is a total copout.
Even if you run a 6 second pass in your piston engine rx7, rotary guys are going to say, " but it's got a piston engine in it, WTF?" and the piston guys are going to say, " but it's in an rx7, WTF?"
I guess it all boils down to whatever floats your boat and what you like. I however think that switching over to piston engine setups because of money or sponsership issues is a total copout.
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I wish getting another car was an option.
Unfortunatly completely out of budget.
I can put in tons of hours of labor but money in this day and age is very low.
Besides I really like my car and wanna continue using it.
At least its still Mazda powered.
Unfortunatly completely out of budget.
I can put in tons of hours of labor but money in this day and age is very low.
Besides I really like my car and wanna continue using it.
At least its still Mazda powered.
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Do you have any idea what's its like racing a high hp rotary and how much it costs in both time and money? And then trying to race two of them?
It's easy for "rotary fans" to say it's not a rotary or i would never do that but you have to look at it from my "shoes" or perspective to really see what it's like.
I enjoy racing and wanna go to every event.
I removed sponsorship from your quote since getting sponsored with an import nowadays is almost impossible.
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Interesting... If this is a baited thread, you're sure catching these guys
I'll believe it when I see it... but just in case you are serious, good luck with the build
I'll believe it when I see it... but just in case you are serious, good luck with the build
#18
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That's cool and all but I would rather sell my rx7 than put a piston engine in it. Sorry, but I'm a diehard rotary fan and call me nuts but I think putting a piston engine in an Rx7 is disgraceful and well.... just not right. If you're going to go over to the dark side with a piston engine setup, then why not just switch over to a different chassis like Dee K. did?
Even if you run a 6 second pass in your piston engine rx7, rotary guys are going to say, " but it's got a piston engine in it, WTF?" and the piston guys are going to say, " but it's in an rx7, WTF?"
I guess it all boils down to whatever floats your boat and what you like. I however think that switching over to piston engine setups because of money or sponsership issues is a total copout.
Even if you run a 6 second pass in your piston engine rx7, rotary guys are going to say, " but it's got a piston engine in it, WTF?" and the piston guys are going to say, " but it's in an rx7, WTF?"
I guess it all boils down to whatever floats your boat and what you like. I however think that switching over to piston engine setups because of money or sponsership issues is a total copout.
#19
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Enzo, I hope your ******* joking here. and if your not, well don't take these words personal, because i know you personally but, you sound like a stupid dick. If your a pureist at heart you would not make this move... period..... I could care less of your reasons. I hope you sat back and analized what your about to do, before u did it. and if you are, please find another shell to put that stupid piston engine in. you said your going to cut your Rx7 right? so go ahead and find another donor piston shell and cut that piece of ****. the least you could do here, since you started the thread, is explaine your reasons for this weak moment your going through. this way, we could analize your reasoning and pick it apart. you will be judged!!!!!!
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For the record, I am not quitting, giving up, etc..
I will still race a 13B turbo RX-7 next year as well as my own RX-7 with mazda 4 cyl.
Don't think of it as quitting but as expanding into another area.
I enjoy challenges and need to keep my mind going or i'll lose interest..
I would've probably kept the IRS for another year but was offered to sell my suspension and couldn't pass up the offer so I figured it was time to move on.
I had my setup going 8.6's like a bracket car and then added a bit more power and tried goodyear 8.5" tires and had no luck with those tires.. I know if I would've went back to my old tires i could've gone 8.0's or better..
I'll save my latest tricks for the other RX-7 for next year.. I really expect that one to go 6's by the end of 2011 as well as my own. So that will make 2 RX-7's in the 6's with both mazda powerplants. (rotary & piston).
I know it's hard for some to see a piston motor in an RX-7 but you have to realize how much work it is go racing with a rotary car and then to have a family on top to that plus add in another rotary race car for next year. I had to do something. So my best move was to keep one as a rotary and make one a piston and race both...
I will still race a 13B turbo RX-7 next year as well as my own RX-7 with mazda 4 cyl.
Don't think of it as quitting but as expanding into another area.
I enjoy challenges and need to keep my mind going or i'll lose interest..
I would've probably kept the IRS for another year but was offered to sell my suspension and couldn't pass up the offer so I figured it was time to move on.
I had my setup going 8.6's like a bracket car and then added a bit more power and tried goodyear 8.5" tires and had no luck with those tires.. I know if I would've went back to my old tires i could've gone 8.0's or better..
I'll save my latest tricks for the other RX-7 for next year.. I really expect that one to go 6's by the end of 2011 as well as my own. So that will make 2 RX-7's in the 6's with both mazda powerplants. (rotary & piston).
I know it's hard for some to see a piston motor in an RX-7 but you have to realize how much work it is go racing with a rotary car and then to have a family on top to that plus add in another rotary race car for next year. I had to do something. So my best move was to keep one as a rotary and make one a piston and race both...
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Ito next time I see you I'll explain it in more detail but to sum it up after making roughly 60-70 passes last year I ended up consuming quite a bit of parts and it takes a toll on you physically,mentally, and financially. Whether or not it's the right move is not certain. I believe its worth the effort to try. If it doesn't work it'll be easy to go back to a rotary engine the following year.
TimeMachines thanks.
I've made over a dozen 8 second passes and had my car running on rails.
I tried the new Goodyear 8.5"s and they just didn't work for me.
I had enough experience to know going back with my old tires wouldve been the answer
I ran 8.6's at 156mph. I had the car going close to 167mph. I know I wouldve done it.
It's not that I'm a big talker I knew the car very well and knew what it's capable of.
I had to stay home with the wife so I couldnt make the last couple of races.
I also had someone begging me for my rear setup so I made the decision to move on and have all winter to get the car setup for bigger tires. I felt I did what I said I was gonna do and it was time to move on.
TimeMachines thanks.
I've made over a dozen 8 second passes and had my car running on rails.
I tried the new Goodyear 8.5"s and they just didn't work for me.
I had enough experience to know going back with my old tires wouldve been the answer
I ran 8.6's at 156mph. I had the car going close to 167mph. I know I wouldve done it.
It's not that I'm a big talker I knew the car very well and knew what it's capable of.
I had to stay home with the wife so I couldnt make the last couple of races.
I also had someone begging me for my rear setup so I made the decision to move on and have all winter to get the car setup for bigger tires. I felt I did what I said I was gonna do and it was time to move on.
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How so?
Do you have any idea what's its like racing a high hp rotary and how much it costs in both time and money? And then trying to race two of them?
It's easy for "rotary fans" to say it's not a rotary or i would never do that but you have to look at it from my "shoes" or perspective to really see what it's like.
I enjoy racing and wanna go to every event.
I removed sponsorship from your quote since getting sponsored with an import nowadays is almost impossible.
Do you have any idea what's its like racing a high hp rotary and how much it costs in both time and money? And then trying to race two of them?
It's easy for "rotary fans" to say it's not a rotary or i would never do that but you have to look at it from my "shoes" or perspective to really see what it's like.
I enjoy racing and wanna go to every event.
I removed sponsorship from your quote since getting sponsored with an import nowadays is almost impossible.
And if running the other tires is the only issue, then it should only take you 15 minutes to put them on and run the 8.0. What are you waiting for?
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Kinda of hard to do since I sold the entire rear setup hence the decision to do all this.
One car is my own and the other is a good friend of mine and also the shop car.
I love speed and will do whatever I can to go fast.
I'm not a bracket kind of guy.
One car is my own and the other is a good friend of mine and also the shop car.
I love speed and will do whatever I can to go fast.
I'm not a bracket kind of guy.
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Ito next time I see you I'll explain it in more detail but to sum it up after making roughly 60-70 passes last year I ended up consuming quite a bit of parts and it takes a toll on you physically,mentally, and financially. Whether or not it's the right move is not certain. I believe its worth the effort to try. If it doesn't work it'll be easy to go back to a rotary engine the following year.
TimeMachines thanks.
I've made over a dozen 8 second passes and had my car running on rails.
I tried the new Goodyear 8.5"s and they just didn't work for me.
I had enough experience to know going back with my old tires wouldve been the answer
I ran 8.6's at 156mph. I had the car going close to 167mph. I know I wouldve done it.
It's not that I'm a big talker I knew the car very well and knew what it's capable of.
I had to stay home with the wife so I couldnt make the last couple of races.
I also had someone begging me for my rear setup so I made the decision to move on and have all winter to get the car setup for bigger tires. I felt I did what I said I was gonna do and it was time to move on.
TimeMachines thanks.
I've made over a dozen 8 second passes and had my car running on rails.
I tried the new Goodyear 8.5"s and they just didn't work for me.
I had enough experience to know going back with my old tires wouldve been the answer
I ran 8.6's at 156mph. I had the car going close to 167mph. I know I wouldve done it.
It's not that I'm a big talker I knew the car very well and knew what it's capable of.
I had to stay home with the wife so I couldnt make the last couple of races.
I also had someone begging me for my rear setup so I made the decision to move on and have all winter to get the car setup for bigger tires. I felt I did what I said I was gonna do and it was time to move on.