Shoemaker Part 2
11-25-10, 03:26 PM
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Every thing breaks when pushed past it's limit... If it isn't then your not pushing hard enough 
Question is where is the limit? And how close can we push towards it?
You guys wanna call me a quitter or sellout, but what am i quitting from? I said I would break the IRS record and did. Now it's time to move on.. You guys see it as quitting but I see it as accomplished... I have other goals now.. One of them being to go 6's with a rotary powered rx-7! ? I wanna play on both sides not just one... LOL..
I've always worked on both rotary and piston motors...So I've been to the other side already..
I love them both. Your right in that there really is no aftermarket parts for rotary engines and it's amazing what they can do with 99% stock parts. Weak areas in pistons motors however can be addressed no matter what it is...
If you guys step into my shoes maybe you'll understand why I'm doing what I'm doing..
It'll be interesting to see how each car behaves next year.
Question is where is the limit? And how close can we push towards it?You guys wanna call me a quitter or sellout, but what am i quitting from? I said I would break the IRS record and did. Now it's time to move on.. You guys see it as quitting but I see it as accomplished... I have other goals now.. One of them being to go 6's with a rotary powered rx-7! ? I wanna play on both sides not just one... LOL..
I've always worked on both rotary and piston motors...So I've been to the other side already..
I love them both. Your right in that there really is no aftermarket parts for rotary engines and it's amazing what they can do with 99% stock parts. Weak areas in pistons motors however can be addressed no matter what it is...If you guys step into my shoes maybe you'll understand why I'm doing what I'm doing..
It'll be interesting to see how each car behaves next year.
11-25-10, 07:28 PM
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It's not easy. I talk to Enzo at 2-3 AM when he leaves his shop. He is then up at 7AM and heads to a 9-5. Then back at the shop for another long night. I really don't know how he does it. He works alone in his shop which is not easy. When he explained to me how much it really costs to race at a level he is at, I realized it's not easy or cheap. Keep in mind he supports a family, a mortgage in Long Island where taxes are 10K a year and even though he plays, he makes sure his wife is home with the kids. Even with all this going on he still has time for his friends, for advice or a tune. All I can say is that it's not easy.
11-25-10, 07:39 PM
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Yes, I do know, that's why I run in a class I can afford and at least it's still a rotary. If I couldn't afford the all motor class, then I would just run a bracket class with a rotary or just go to the drag strip for fun. Point being, I'll sell my rotary before I race a piston engine. Besides, you say you're going to race two 6-7 second race cars...... doesn't sound like you have much money issues to me. 
And if running the other tires is the only issue, then it should only take you 15 minutes to put them on and run the 8.0. What are you waiting for?
And if running the other tires is the only issue, then it should only take you 15 minutes to put them on and run the 8.0. What are you waiting for?
11-25-10, 07:57 PM
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I don't want to see Enzo switch anymore then the rest, but some of you need to chill out. Enzo, did you ever get a 2 piece shaft, extra dowels or even a stud kit to help keep your engine from flexing? Thats stuff is a bit pricy in the front end, but well worth it in the long run.
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11-25-10, 08:59 PM
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Ernie all that stuff you mentioned is unnecessary and a waste of money.
Flexing was not a problem of mine..
Want to keep a rotary alive.. Stay off the 2step and rev limiters...
Flexing was not a problem of mine..
Want to keep a rotary alive.. Stay off the 2step and rev limiters...
11-26-10, 01:05 AM
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You guys wanna call me a quitter or sellout, but what am i quitting from? I said I would break the IRS record and did. Now it's time to move on.. You guys see it as quitting but I see it as accomplished... I have other goals now.. One of them being to go 6's with a rotary powered rx-7! ? I wanna play on both sides not just one... LOL..
11-26-10, 05:33 AM
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Enzo, even tho I want to agree with everybody (I really DO), family and bussines comes first. If its the best option for you, your bussines, and family; then there is nothing to talk about. Good luck out there, and wish you the best!
BTW - I can't root for your 2nd gen anymore hehehehe (had to hate a lil, you know...)
BTW - I can't root for your 2nd gen anymore hehehehe (had to hate a lil, you know...)
11-26-10, 05:33 AM
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Give it a try before you give up, lol..You should really consider talking to some other engine builders prior to throwing in the towel.
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11-26-10, 01:11 PM
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If everything goes to plan, I'll be following in his footsteps (only a couple miles behind, lol!)
11-26-10, 02:58 PM
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It's not easy. I talk to Enzo at 2-3 AM when he leaves his shop. He is then up at 7AM and heads to a 9-5. Then back at the shop for another long night. I really don't know how he does it. He works alone in his shop which is not easy. When he explained to me how much it really costs to race at a level he is at, I realized it's not easy or cheap. Keep in mind he supports a family, a mortgage in Long Island where taxes are 10K a year and even though he plays, he makes sure his wife is home with the kids. Even with all this going on he still has time for his friends, for advice or a tune. All I can say is that it's not easy.
11-26-10, 03:51 PM
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I just assumed cause Allen and them said you were having a hard time keeping the motor together.
How would a piston engine be cheaper? Wouldn't it be more expensive? You'll still need to freshen up the piston engine, right?
How would a piston engine be cheaper? Wouldn't it be more expensive? You'll still need to freshen up the piston engine, right?
11-26-10, 04:29 PM
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Forget running a class you can afford. Just heading to the track is a $500 affair. An average weekend for a regular turbo car in the NE is $500 per event. Our tracks are 2-3 hours away. Gas and tolls is about $150, new set of plugs $150, gas $100, food/entrance fee is $100. (it cost me $75 to race a class at fall nationals). Hotel $75 and other misc fees, by the time you add that up you are close to $600 and you have not touched the other stuff yet.
11-26-10, 05:32 PM
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