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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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I don't know about rarity of Toyotas, but if the chassis they're putting up is rare at all, an RX-3 or RX-4 would be an awesome match. Otherwise, I agree with 13B-RX3 100% here.

It should definitely be (12A or 13B) vs. 3T-C.

As for any trolls from either side, if you want this to happen and be serious then don't be a troll. If you want to talk smack keep it to a single thread designated as a smack-talking thread, not the thread where we're starting our initial organization effort.

For everyone: Step one is organization. Choose a go-to guy, have him and the Toyota 3T-C rep talk to Pinks together. Agree on a date and some limit with respect to cost (whether it's a flat ceiling or a donation-per-member cap or some combination). (Also, you should probably leave all visuals [paint is what I'm thinking] out of the budget so both sides can put out some pride.)

As for limits, rules, results, here's my suggestions:
1. Whoever wins the cars must auction them individually and donate all of the gross proceeds to a charity of the winner's choice.
2. I think a max per-member contribution of $250 cash money, $1000 in parts and $5000 (100 hours) of labor. (This limit would not apply to purely visual effects. So paint is "free" but getting rims X at $500 instead of rims Y at $300 even though they're both alloy and 15 lbs. each would still count as a $500 parts donation.)
3. Each side should be allowed one exemption for the cost of all engine components (not including turbo) so one single person or sponsor can put up a full complement of parts needed to build the engine (so we don't need to have six people each shipping a separate part of the housing to the builder).
4. This should definitely be a straight-up run. No hamstringing either side with weight requirements or other artificial limits.
5. And, like I said, smack talking should be kept to a single dedicated thread on each forum. It would not be fair for a flame war to shut down six months and how many thousands of dollars of work.

As for the RX-7 club specific parts:
Step one: Start a thread for people to volunteer as the main representative.
Step two: Run a poll three days later. Top two are the reps. They will be responsible for everything. Suggestion: The reps should designate a treasurer.
Steps three through eight-five: Repeat the volunteer and poll votes for an engine builder, an installer, painter and driver. Engine builder, installer and painter should each select their crew (which in most cases will be the people they work with normally. This is specifically for the installer since the whole putting it all together bit will be more than 100 man-hours, so they'll definitely need more than one man as per the man-hour limit I posted earlier.)

That said, I'll put my money where my mouth is if we complete steps one and two and I trust them.
sorry dude but the only rule is come to the race track with a 10 second car and run what you brung thats it! if you like it good welcome if not go away!
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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sorry dude but the only rule is come to the race track with a 10 second car and run what you brung thats it! if you like it good welcome if not go away!
OK, then if that's "the only rule", I nominate Robert from Rotary Shack to build our lowly 12a. 680 h.p. anyone???
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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Seriously, you guys are nuts with all these rules.

Agree on a 10 flat car, show up and race. That's it !

Most racers would laugh you off the track with all those rules.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer
Seriously, you guys are nuts with all these rules.

Agree on a 10 flat car, show up and race. That's it !

Most racers would laugh you off the track with all those rules.
If we both bring a 10.000 second car then it's not a race. It's a 10.000 second car vs. a 10.000 second car. We know what they'll both run: 10.000 seconds.

If we have no rules then it'll turn out to be a 10 second car versus a 7 second car (doesn't matter which direction, it'll be lame either way) and the race will be stupid.

If we don't have a rule for what happens to the winnings there's no way I'm helping because I'm not going to put up my money so one person can walk away with two cars, one of which I helped build.

If we don't have some limit on the donations available then whichever forum has a crazy rich person wins, which isn't a race.

If I want to see two punks racing cars I'll just watch the next episode of Pinks.

If I want to watch two communities each build a car based on contributions from users for the purpose of popularity and charity I believe we need some semblance of rules.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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I'll chip in...
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Goofy
If we both bring a 10.000 second car then it's not a race. It's a 10.000 second car vs. a 10.000 second car. We know what they'll both run: 10.000 seconds.
Dude. Seriously, that's funny.

Originally Posted by Goofy
If we have no rules then it'll turn out to be a 10 second car versus a 7 second car (doesn't matter which direction, it'll be lame either way) and the race will be stupid.

If we don't have a rule for what happens to the winnings there's no way I'm helping because I'm not going to put up my money so one person can walk away with two cars, one of which I helped build.

If we don't have some limit on the donations available then whichever forum has a crazy rich person wins, which isn't a race.

If I want to see two punks racing cars I'll just watch the next episode of Pinks.

If I want to watch two communities each build a car based on contributions from users for the purpose of popularity and charity I believe we need some semblance of rules.
The above is all BS.

Nothing personal, but don't have a clue about heads up drag racing.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Goofy
If we both bring a 10.000 second car then it's not a race. It's a 10.000 second car vs. a 10.000 second car. We know what they'll both run: 10.000 seconds.
Which is why they negotiate starting positions, car lengths, whatever. Plus the fact that you have driver skill, reaction time, etc. Just because both cars are 10.000 second cars doesn't mean each driver will be exactly the same.

If we have no rules then it'll turn out to be a 10 second car versus a 7 second car (doesn't matter which direction, it'll be lame either way) and the race will be stupid.
Or it could end up two 8 second cars, which would be cool.

If we don't have a rule for what happens to the winnings there's no way I'm helping because I'm not going to put up my money so one person can walk away with two cars, one of which I helped build.
That I can understand.

If we don't have some limit on the donations available then whichever forum has a crazy rich person wins, which isn't a race.
*PAGING JIMLAB, PAGING JIMLAB*

If I want to see two punks racing cars I'll just watch the next episode of Pinks.
You mean you wouldn't watch it anyway?

If I want to watch two communities each build a car based on contributions from users for the purpose of popularity and charity I believe we need some semblance of rules.
What are the rules of the show itself? Why don't you start with those and see what happens?
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by $100T2
Which is why they negotiate starting positions, car lengths, whatever. Plus the fact that you have driver skill, reaction time, etc. Just because both cars are 10.000 second cars doesn't mean each driver will be exactly the same.
Obviously I'm oversimplifying, but if two cars, driven by their respective drivers, tend to run 10 seconds then it's whichever driver happens to be on the ball that day. That would mean the cars are pointless.

Or it could end up two 8 second cars, which would be cool.
True, if it happens to turn out to be a good race it happens to turn out to be a good race. I seriously think the odds are against that though. Then again, I'm just going off of what I've heard from Pinks on this forum - Not a single real solid positive review, they always end up: Yeah Car X won, but only because Car Y had to have 300 lbs. of sandbags and Car X was misrepresenting its abilities in the first place. Lame.

You mean you wouldn't watch it anyway?
Nah, ibid.

What are the rules of the show itself? Why don't you start with those and see what happens?
Ibid.

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Nothing personal, but don't have a clue about heads up drag racing.
This isn't heads up drag racing. This is Pinks. Thus, ibid.

Between all that's been said in this thread and the Lounge thread, I'm not in unless someone comes up with a really good reason for me to help out.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Goofy
I don't know about rarity of Toyotas, but if the chassis they're putting up is rare at all, an RX-3 or RX-4 would be an awesome match. Otherwise, I agree with 13B-RX3 100% here.

It should definitely be (12A or 13B) vs. 3T-C.

As for any trolls from either side, if you want this to happen and be serious then don't be a troll. If you want to talk smack keep it to a single thread designated as a smack-talking thread, not the thread where we're starting our initial organization effort.

For everyone: Step one is organization. Choose a go-to guy, have him and the Toyota 3T-C rep talk to Pinks together. Agree on a date and some limit with respect to cost (whether it's a flat ceiling or a donation-per-member cap or some combination). (Also, you should probably leave all visuals [paint is what I'm thinking] out of the budget so both sides can put out some pride.)

As for limits, rules, results, here's my suggestions:
1. Whoever wins the cars must auction them individually and donate all of the gross proceeds to a charity of the winner's choice.
2. I think a max per-member contribution of $250 cash money, $1000 in parts and $5000 (100 hours) of labor. (This limit would not apply to purely visual effects. So paint is "free" but getting rims X at $500 instead of rims Y at $300 even though they're both alloy and 15 lbs. each would still count as a $500 parts donation.)
3. Each side should be allowed one exemption for the cost of all engine components (not including turbo) so one single person or sponsor can put up a full complement of parts needed to build the engine (so we don't need to have six people each shipping a separate part of the housing to the builder).
4. This should definitely be a straight-up run. No hamstringing either side with weight requirements or other artificial limits.
5. And, like I said, smack talking should be kept to a single dedicated thread on each forum. It would not be fair for a flame war to shut down six months and how many thousands of dollars of work.

As for the RX-7 club specific parts:
Step one: Start a thread for people to volunteer as the main representative.
Step two: Run a poll three days later. Top two are the reps. They will be responsible for everything. Suggestion: The reps should designate a treasurer.
Steps three through eight-five: Repeat the volunteer and poll votes for an engine builder, an installer, painter and driver. Engine builder, installer and painter should each select their crew (which in most cases will be the people they work with normally. This is specifically for the installer since the whole putting it all together bit will be more than 100 man-hours, so they'll definitely need more than one man as per the man-hour limit I posted earlier.)

That said, I'll put my money where my mouth is if we complete steps one and two and I trust them.
Originally Posted by Goofy
If we both bring a 10.000 second car then it's not a race. It's a 10.000 second car vs. a 10.000 second car. We know what they'll both run: 10.000 seconds.

If we have no rules then it'll turn out to be a 10 second car versus a 7 second car (doesn't matter which direction, it'll be lame either way) and the race will be stupid.

If we don't have a rule for what happens to the winnings there's no way I'm helping because I'm not going to put up my money so one person can walk away with two cars, one of which I helped build.

If we don't have some limit on the donations available then whichever forum has a crazy rich person wins, which isn't a race.

If I want to see two punks racing cars I'll just watch the next episode of Pinks.

If I want to watch two communities each build a car based on contributions from users for the purpose of popularity and charity I believe we need some semblance of rules.
Seriously, the idea would do alot better without you. You have no concept of the word "Heads Up Drag Racing".

Looks like it's time for a repost of Bret Kepner Cardinal Rules of Heads-Up Drag Racing:

1. The person who wins the championship is ALWAYS cheating.

2. All cars faster than YOURS are cheating.

3. All people slower than YOU know YOU'RE cheating.

4. If your name is GOOFY, well....come on...

5. The tech guys hate YOU but let everybody else slide.

6. All the OTHER people ruin it for everybody else.

7. If it wasn't for people like YOU, racing would totally suck.

8. Any car not built under a tree in a backyard by an idiot making less per hour than YOU is a cheating, professional race car.

9. Any racer who willingly spends more money than YOU is cheating.

10. Any racer whose vehicle works better than YOURS is cheating.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Goofy
If we both bring a 10.000 second car then it's not a race. It's a 10.000 second car vs. a 10.000 second car. We know what they'll both run: 10.000 seconds.

If we have no rules then it'll turn out to be a 10 second car versus a 7 second car (doesn't matter which direction, it'll be lame either way) and the race will be stupid.

If we don't have a rule for what happens to the winnings there's no way I'm helping because I'm not going to put up my money so one person can walk away with two cars, one of which I helped build.

If we don't have some limit on the donations available then whichever forum has a crazy rich person wins, which isn't a race.

If I want to see two punks racing cars I'll just watch the next episode of Pinks.

If I want to watch two communities each build a car based on contributions from users for the purpose of popularity and charity I believe we need some semblance of rules.
did i smell chicken po..po,,,poo,,,pppppooooo aaaahahahahahahahahahahah!
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by toyota1515
did i smell chicken po..po,,,poo,,,pppppooooo aaaahahahahahahahahahahah!
You smell someone who doesn't want to throw away money to build a car that won't do anyone any good except for whoever gets to walk away with it at the end based on some probably flawed method of choosing said person while the few people who bother to come to this forum and interact with us have nothing but **** to sling. I've got better things to do than to deal with your BS and put up money for my troubles. (Just dealing with your BS for free is actually somewhat entertaining.)
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer
Seriously, the idea would do alot better without you. You have no concept of the word "Heads Up Drag Racing".

Looks like it's time for a repost of Bret Kepner Cardinal Rules of Heads-Up Drag Racing:

1. The person who wins the championship is ALWAYS cheating.

2. All cars faster than YOURS are cheating.

3. All people slower than YOU know YOU'RE cheating.

4. If your name is GOOFY, well....come on...

5. The tech guys hate YOU but let everybody else slide.

6. All the OTHER people ruin it for everybody else.

7. If it wasn't for people like YOU, racing would totally suck.

8. Any car not built under a tree in a backyard by an idiot making less per hour than YOU is a cheating, professional race car.

9. Any racer who willingly spends more money than YOU is cheating.

10. Any racer whose vehicle works better than YOURS is cheating.
bbbbuuuuuuaaaaahahahahahahahahaha whats up gringo do you live with him to know him that well??????? hahahahahahaha !
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Goofy
You smell someone who doesn't want to throw away money to build a car that won't do anyone any good except for whoever gets to walk away with it at the end based on some probably flawed method of choosing said person while the few people who bother to come to this forum and interact with us have nothing but **** to sling. I've got better things to do than to deal with your BS and put up money for my troubles. (Just dealing with your BS for free is actually somewhat entertaining.)
welll as i say before stay away from this! stay with the kids and let the groun ups do bussines ok bye bye na,na,na,na,- na,na,na,na hey, hey, hey,.. good bye!
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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yeah this is a hard one because like I've been saying the hole time it's going to come down to the drivers if they are both 10 second cars, witch can still be fun. I think it would be fun to see how fast someone could make the cars based on limmited funds (a cap on how much we could spend) but I think this is not going to work based on two differant cars that obviously will cost two completely differant amounts to build. If they where the same car then I would understand. I do KNOW that if we don't get organized then nothing will get done so I agree with what goofy is saying. This is a great idea but it can't be all fun and games if you really want this to happen. It's time to get serious and organized or if we don't want that then lets all continue dreaming WE NEED A LEADER! Who is going to step up and build this bitch!!!!!

I do think that if we win the car then it needs to be sold and everyone that pitched in and helped will be paid back. This way people don't feel like it's a donation but rather a small investment.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hondahater
I do think that if we win the car then it needs to be sold and everyone that pitched in and helped will be paid back. This way people don't feel like it's a donation but rather a small investment.
I started thinking that way and I don't want to sidetrack this too much, since the first order of business is definitely getting a leader, but this becomes a problem when someone has rims they bought for $500 and donated, but now couldn't get unless they paid $600 (or some similar variably-priced part). Are they entitled to $500 or $600. How do you pay out for people who donated only time? If I make $40/hr but I'm not a mechanic do you pay me $40/hr or (whatever a mechanic makes - which is variable) or $10/hr because I don't have relevant work experience but helped out. That's why I fell back on saying both cars should be sold and the gross proceeds donated to charity, so every dollar put in would be a donation and you'd know that from the beginning. Thus no one would put more in than they could afford to and decided to.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Bottom line is, you build the best car your forum is capable of building. If the best we can come up with is a 15 second **** box, then it's, "Oh well." If the best they can come up with is a 15 second **** box, then, again, it's, "Oh well." This should be about teamwork within the forum rather than **** talking to the other guys. I understand the playful nature of trash talking, but honestly, those who are talking back and forth, take it to PMs. A) It's really early for that seeing that it's not even a done deal, B) it clutters up what can otherwise be useful discussion, and C) you're all (both sides of the **** talking) giving me a ******* headache. Reading your juvenile insults is like looking at a train wreck: I don't really want to, but it's right in front of me, so I have no choice. Want the **** talking to stop? Be the bigger man and stow it. If you don't respond, then the other guy won't, either.

Edit: If you're already wondering how you're going to get "paid back", then you should probably stay out of it. There's a reason why they are called "donations", because they are donated. If you happen to catch something on the back-end for your time, effort and money, great. But, if you're only doing this on the contingency that you will get something in return, well, there are other people willing to help out for free. I'm willing to put up my FB for this, and at no point did I think, "Score! I can get everyone here to donate money and parts and time to my car, and at the end, it will all be mine!" I put my FB up and it gets lost, it's tough **** for me, right? Ok, I'm cool with that. You guys are talking like it's a done deal that our car would kick the **** out of theirs, and we're all splitting a winning lottery ticket. There is a very real chance we could walk away with nothing, and worrying about getting repaid for what you did is pretty ******* ridiculous at this point.

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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Word of advice...When the Americans wanted to counter the Japanese zero..they had to actually obtain one -In other words- don't put all the specs out for everyone to see. Well...not at least till the race.
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Originally Posted by $100T2
Bottom line is, you build the best car your forum is capable of building. If the best we can come up with is a 15 second **** box, then it's, "Oh well." If the best they can come up with is a 15 second **** box, then, again, it's, "Oh well." This should be about teamwork within the forum rather than **** talking to the other guys. I understand the playful nature of trash talking, but honestly, those who are talking back and forth, take it to PMs. A) It's really early for that seeing that it's not even a done deal, B) it clutters up what can otherwise be useful discussion, and C) you're all (both sides of the **** talking) giving me a ******* headache. Reading your juvenile insults is like looking at a train wreck: I don't really want to, but it's right in front of me, so I have no choice. Want the **** talking to stop? Be the bigger man and stow it. If you don't respond, then the other guy won't, either.

Edit: If you're already wondering how you're going to get "paid back", then you should probably stay out of it. There's a reason why they are called "donations", because they are donated. If you happen to catch something on the back-end for your time, effort and money, great. But, if you're only doing this on the contingency that you will get something in return, well, there are other people willing to help out for free. I'm willing to put up my FB for this, and at no point did I think, "Score! I can get everyone here to donate money and parts and time to my car, and at the end, it will all be mine!" I put my FB up and it gets lost, it's tough **** for me, right? Ok, I'm cool with that. You guys are talking like it's a done deal that our car would kick the **** out of theirs, and we're all splitting a winning lottery ticket. There is a very real chance we could walk away with nothing, and worrying about getting repaid for what you did is pretty ******* ridiculous at this point.

Damn 100...I don't think anyone else could say that better.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by $100T2
Edit: If you're already wondering how you're going to get "paid back", then you should probably stay out of it. There's a reason why they are called "donations", because they are donated. If you happen to catch something on the back-end for your time, effort and money, great. But, if you're only doing this on the contingency that you will get something in return, well, there are other people willing to help out for free. I'm willing to put up my FB for this, and at no point did I think, "Score! I can get everyone here to donate money and parts and time to my car, and at the end, it will all be mine!" I put my FB up and it gets lost, it's tough **** for me, right? Ok, I'm cool with that. You guys are talking like it's a done deal that our car would kick the **** out of theirs, and we're all splitting a winning lottery ticket. There is a very real chance we could walk away with nothing, and worrying about getting repaid for what you did is pretty ******* ridiculous at this point.

yeah I hear that and am in total agreance with that but it's nice to know that if we win the car than there is a potential to get some of your "investment" back and not have someone you don't know take all the winnings then I think thats a bit of an insentive, don't you? I think we can all agree though that


THE NEXT TWO STEPS SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1) find out if this is really on with pinks

2) find a leader!
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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bbbbuuuuuuaaaaahahahahahahahahaha whats up gringo do you live with him to know him that well??????? hahahahahahaha !
HAHAHAHAHA If all else fails at least i am learning a few new lines.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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yeah I hear that and am in total agreance with that but it's nice to know that if we win the car than there is a potential to get some of your "investment" back and not have someone you don't know take all the winnings then I think thats a bit of an insentive, don't you? I think we can all agree though that
You know what my incentive is? I'd like to see my FB actually be worked on, fixed, and driven the way it should be. I'd like to be able to tape the show and remember the time me and a bunch of guys from a place that has given me so much knowledge got together and actually did something with a common purpose, aimed at a shared goal. Again, if I lose the car, I lose the car. That's not what it's about for me. I think that if there are promises made of repayment, it's going to turn into a ******* disaster: It will be like a bunch of squabbling kids fighting over their inheritance from a dead Aunt none of them knew or liked.




THE NEXT TWO STEPS SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1) find out if this is really on with pinks

2) find a leader!
How about if we find out if this is really on with the owner of the forum? I mean, hell, it's his forum we'd be representing, and quite frankly, he might not want to be involved if it's going to turn into an internet pissing contest that could tarnish the mostly decent reputation this forum has. You guys want to talk about rules? Here's a rule: Act like a grown up. No **** talking. Let the car do the talking. If we haven't won anything, then we have no basis from which to talk. How's that for a rule?
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BackyardSog
Did you want to race it for pink slips?
short answer is yes. it should be able to hit 10 flats and probably dip into high 9's when it is done. If the car is done in time i wouldnt mind going on pinks.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by $100T2
Bottom line is, you build the best car your forum is capable of building. If the best we can come up with is a 15 second **** box, then it's, "Oh well." If the best they can come up with is a 15 second **** box, then, again, it's, "Oh well." This should be about teamwork within the forum rather than **** talking to the other guys. I understand the playful nature of trash talking, but honestly, those who are talking back and forth, take it to PMs. A) It's really early for that seeing that it's not even a done deal, B) it clutters up what can otherwise be useful discussion, and C) you're all (both sides of the **** talking) giving me a ******* headache. Reading your juvenile insults is like looking at a train wreck: I don't really want to, but it's right in front of me, so I have no choice. Want the **** talking to stop? Be the bigger man and stow it. If you don't respond, then the other guy won't, either.

Edit: If you're already wondering how you're going to get "paid back", then you should probably stay out of it. There's a reason why they are called "donations", because they are donated. If you happen to catch something on the back-end for your time, effort and money, great. But, if you're only doing this on the contingency that you will get something in return, well, there are other people willing to help out for free. I'm willing to put up my FB for this, and at no point did I think, "Score! I can get everyone here to donate money and parts and time to my car, and at the end, it will all be mine!" I put my FB up and it gets lost, it's tough **** for me, right? Ok, I'm cool with that. You guys are talking like it's a done deal that our car would kick the **** out of theirs, and we're all splitting a winning lottery ticket. There is a very real chance we could walk away with nothing, and worrying about getting repaid for what you did is pretty ******* ridiculous at this point.
hey 100 you are a good guy, i like the way you think, you couldnt say it better!
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by toyota1515
hey 100 you are a good guy, i like the way you think, you couldnt say it better!
I'm the internet Daddy everyone never wanted.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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Wow..I just went over to 3TC and you know what they win in already. Civilization.


I'll call in a few more favors to some family members and see what other goodies I can get thrown in for the car. So far I see we're gonna need rims, tires, and the turbo. Has anyone contacted Randy about a turbo manifold? I've got some funds from the plate sales to kick down towards that and we'll have to have a fund raiser to raise the turbo money.
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