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Old 02-16-10, 11:08 AM
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haha neet or functional, im not going to be able to afford Hollywood set-ups, nor be able to maintain Hollywood set-ups, so basically with my car all you'll get is my best effort at do it yourself fabrication, and if it gets me down the track in a good consistent time then ill go with it .
I still have the dream of getting my car to Hollywood stages, just not right now, as me back pocket is a bit empty for bling fab work
Old 02-16-10, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by beefcake
haha neet or functional, im not going to be able to afford Hollywood set-ups, nor be able to maintain Hollywood set-ups, so basically with my car all you'll get is my best effort at do it yourself fabrication, and if it gets me down the track in a good consistent time then ill go with it .
I still have the dream of getting my car to Hollywood stages, just not right now, as me back pocket is a bit empty for bling fab work
My man. Your car is pretty high up there. There arent too many people running low 10's the first time they bring the car to the track!
Id take an honest home built setup over some chromed out high dollar setup anyday.
Old 02-17-10, 07:08 PM
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sweet set up man i got 3 years in my build, so there is a light at the end of the tunnel lol.
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Originally Posted by rico007
sweet set up man i got 3 years in my build, so there is a light at the end of the tunnel lol.
i nearly did 5 years, this august would tick over to 5 years , but i couldnt give a **** on how the car looked or went anymore, so we thrashed it and banged a combo together and hit the track, and its the best thing ive ever done,
Ive got heaps and heaps of things i still wish to do to it, but now that im racing it can take its time, as once you hit the track everything is all forgotten and its all good , i did so many changes and upgrades over the years it was a waste of my time and resources and bank flow
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Old 02-18-10, 06:48 AM
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thanks judge,
Ps any of you seasoned racers have a rough idea on what pressure i should be roughly around, as my tyres were set at 10 psi 8 psi 7 psi 6 psi , they all seemed to do the same thing,
really i need the camera on a tri pod stand next to the car at launch .

remember 2100 ish pounds and only 20psi boost with 420/50 hp and no two step launch control , and 3.9 factory diff ratio
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when your dealing with a car like yours(stock chassis, stock suspension) lowering the tire pressure to much, will cause the car to dance in top end. you migth have experienced that already. xtremely dangerous. if your having issues with traction. i would suggest a softer tire(different compound) but remember, your using a stock rear. right now, your doing great and your not breaking stuff. if you start to hook up harder, bye,bye axles,and everything else. so try to maximize what your working with. maybe a shorter burnout, maybe a longer burnout. try and find out where that tire likes to be heated at.
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Originally Posted by Judge Ito
when your dealing with a car like yours(stock chassis, stock suspension) lowering the tire pressure to much, will cause the car to dance in top end. you migth have experienced that already. xtremely dangerous. if your having issues with traction. i would suggest a softer tire(different compound) but remember, your using a stock rear. right now, your doing great and your not breaking stuff. if you start to hook up harder, bye,bye axles,and everything else. so try to maximize what your working with. maybe a shorter burnout, maybe a longer burnout. try and find out where that tire likes to be heated at.
thats what i was thinking too, as that is the reason i started out with 10psi , it wasnt untill i went under 8 psi it got all squirmy top end, i had to correct the steering wheel heaps more, so i think ill be trying 9psi and keeping with my short style burnouts, im never a fan of massive skids as i dont see the point for my type of car.
I cant see from any of the vids that i have a launch problem yet either, so the higher pressure will do me fine ,
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Originally Posted by beefcake
i nearly did 5 years, this august would tick over to 5 years , but i couldnt give a **** on how the car looked or went anymore, so we thrashed it and banged a combo together and hit the track, and its the best thing ive ever done,
Ive got heaps and heaps of things i still wish to do to it, but now that im racing it can take its time, as once you hit the track everything is all forgotten and its all good , i did so many changes and upgrades over the years it was a waste of my time and resources and bank flow
Amen to that brother. Got my car out for 1 run last year, and it was the first ever in the 5 years I've owned it, everything held together with zip-ties. It was the best feeling ever!
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Originally Posted by beefcake
thanks judge,
Ps any of you seasoned racers have a rough idea on what pressure i should be roughly around, as my tyres were set at 10 psi 8 psi 7 psi 6 psi , they all seemed to do the same thing,
really i need the camera on a tri pod stand next to the car at launch .

remember 2100 ish pounds and only 20psi boost with 420/50 hp and no two step launch control , and 3.9 factory diff ratio
Just do exactly what you did to get that 1.35 Then get a good gauge and make small changes at a time .5 or even .25 psi and try to keep everything else the same so you know what effect it had.
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that run was on 8 psi, i too also have a zero to 15psi guage, i have my crew checking my tyre pressures all the way to the staging lanes as the sun gets on one side of the car at our track, so the rh side keeps going up in pressure
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love the work beefie, wish you'd put more of yoru build pics on ausrotary. I had to come here to see the handy work!

Gonna have to borrow ideas for my circuit car for lightweight running.

Good ****, and don't forget... *******!
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mmmmm *******
and i get more of a response on this forum about ideas for my car. The local forum doesn't really get involve in drag Fc cars , worst is they don't even bother with irs rear ends, so not much help for me there , I like talking to these guys as they have mostly been there and done that, and i get a no bullshit non workshop groupy related answer
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Old 03-01-10, 12:26 AM
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mixed results from this weekend, got a new pb 10.20@ 131 but i cant seem to get any more Mph , but then again it was a week of 104 deg temps in the atmosphere and track temps you can imagine were shithouse , i think im not beating up on it enough ,
All my 60fts are in the 1.30s so im getting off the line good enough, just got no power to run it out the back door maybee , **** noes but im back out again next month, ill see if i can get shitty with it and ring it neck out

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cool fduking build mate.
I keep pressures at 10 psi, like has been said before you start to break stock axles if you get even better traction. 1.3 60fts are excellant for IRS.
I use PTS seals as well for the last couple of years, the engine has not been apart since so I am a fan as well of PTS.
In regards to top end a bit more boost will see you right. If ya terminals dont go up with the boost going higher, this could indicate the clutch is not holding, what clutch do you run?
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cool fduking build mate.
I keep pressures at 10 psi, like has been said before you start to break stock axles if you get even better traction. 1.3 60fts are excellant for IRS.
I use PTS seals as well for the last couple of years, the engine has not been apart since so I am a fan as well of PTS.
In regards to top end a bit more boost will see you right. If ya terminals dont go up with the boost going higher, this could indicate the clutch is not holding, what clutch do you run?
yeh i think ive got a bit up me sleeve once i put back on a better intake manifold, the boost is flat lining the power now as it is, the dyno chart lays over heaps up top to just get to the 420/50 hp , and yeh the car ran so much better on the tyres 9psi i had this weekend, so much more stable and it has no reported traction dramas .
The clutch is one of our aussie made Direct Clutch twin plate units, its fresh so i think its behaving good so far, and i havnt shimmed it up for slip, its straight out of the box combo , and i dont think me wee little power output is going to hurt it for a while

Ps ive been a fan of your car for a while now, seen the vids before, keep up the skids form over your end of town
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Probably find your porting is killing your top end.

good work otherwise. keep up the good work mate.
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Originally Posted by rx72c
Probably find your porting is killing your top end.

good work otherwise. keep up the good work mate.
i didnt realise a half bridgeport (full cut) with full extend port on the rest would kill the top end, the exhuast ports were taken out as well, the porting was done buy terry stacey in perth(the ole nuggets been around longer than rotas ) , im open for ideas on why it would cause such a drama as im still learning this game
Ps would have loved to try your clutch but my boss in our race team threw me his old direct unit that we got new centres for, as he had a toploader spline , so i really got a new setup for bugger all in the end
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punch the camera man in the face for me... car is looking sweet. congrats..
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haha yeh i could have, an even me missus is still filming just as bad, they all film me idling in the staging lanes or either missing the skid or not finishing the race . I even told him i wanted him to stand directly behind the car and film it all the way down the track, even after the finish line.
I need to see how much the cars going sideways , as i can feel it squirming around but i need to be able to see it ,

Hes my token kiwi that rotary people have around hear lucky he was only a fill in as the rest of my team is interstate and overseas at the moment
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beefy mate not trying to offend you. i actually like your car and think you have done great.

It was only a suggestion as i have tuned some engines (bridgeport turbos) that dont make any power past 8000rpm. After stripping engines down and reporting them to different specs they are making power well past 9500rpm.

Do you have a dynosheet from when it was tuned? what does that look like?
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ohh nah, no way was i offended mate, but after i red back my own reply it did look a bit cheesy , i truly was asking if the bridgey setup was a bad decision as i really don't know the ins an outs of what works port wise, i only went on what i assumed the norm was .
As you can tell im as open as it gets on my build up and that means im just as open on advice , good or bad, i take it all in
I have been told after my car got running that the half bridgey was a semi bad choice, then there is others that are saying its a good choice

Ill go dig up the dyno sheet ffrom the shop, i never asked for a copy as i never had cared for what the magic man numbers had mentioned, i like to see my "dyno" print out as the time card from a drag track
What i can tell you is that it flattens out hard core for a good few thousand rpm before redline, i mean it goes up then it table tops and seems to go nowhere
I think the ida manifold and throttles is also half to blame

Thanks mate ill get back to ya soon
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no dyno print yet, shops way across town , but i found another pic of my car at the track




Damn ill be buying photos from him real soon
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Nice!
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Nice. If it holds flat for a while then thats usually a good sign. ITs good to know where your car stops making power so you can rev it appropriately.

DOes it feel like your gearing is wrong?

maybe the car just needs more boost


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