Rotary Car Performance General Rotary Car and Engine modification discussions.

THE PORT OFF! -pictures of builders' port work

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 03:46 PM
  #1  
CCarlisi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rebreaking things
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,586
Likes: 0
From: 1 foot in Boston 1 in NJ
THE PORT OFF! -pictures of builders' port work

I'd like to put together a thread featuring pictures of port work from all the major builders. If you rank the work of a particlar build high or low please throw some pics up for the rest of us to evaluate. If there is a problem with uploading or hosting feel free to email the image to me at CCarlisi@aol.com and I will host it off my website.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 10:43 PM
  #2  
rx7tt95's Avatar
Photo Diety
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,311
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Not to be a killjoy, but I haven't been able to successfully post a pic on this site for oh, four months now :-) There are a bunch of porting pics on the "other" site.
Michel
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 01:30 AM
  #3  
MaTT_FoULk's Avatar
earning these was better
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 580
Likes: 0
From: Richardson TX
Wouldn't a better evaulatoin of the quality of a builders motor be the power it produces?
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 09:47 AM
  #4  
Kurgan's Avatar
Gaijin Racing
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,117
Likes: 0
From: Normal, IL
Lots of the time, portwork isn't necessarily something you want to share, or your builder would want to share... unless you just have a standard street port, there is a lot of magic that can go into the shape alone.
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 11:51 AM
  #5  
CrackHeadMel's Avatar
Learned alot | Alot to go
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 4,232
Likes: 0
From: Rotaryland, New Hampshire
I plan on porting my engine when i get to buying it, and i know forsure that i will post pictures and a 100% scanned templet of what my finished product is. We should get some "rx7club" port's started. theres alot of knowledgable people here and although im not asking them to R&D our ports, they could see a curve and simply say "make it cuve to here" or "shape the bowl like this". I like the idea of this thread
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 10:23 AM
  #6  
813KR$'s Avatar
TEAM MAZDA
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 770
Likes: 0
From: Tampa
I think if any one wants to be selfish on their port job pics, they are not interested in pushing rotory performance to it peak! Which will do nothing but keep rotory improvement stagnant! It is not like you are going to become a millionare off of your special port job?
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 10:32 AM
  #7  
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
From: Pensacol/Milton/Orlando (UCF)
I think we need to try to at least PLAY catch up with the piston engines, and this would be a good start. Now I'm not saying pistons are better (dont wanna start a war), but I AM saying they've had more R&D. This could be our ghetto fab way of getting rotary engines on the same level competition-wise with the piston engine.
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:24 PM
  #8  
BDC's Avatar
BDC
BDC Motorsports
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,667
Likes: 6
From: Grand Prairie, TX
I'll bite.











That oughta do it. I extend port engines for $350.

B
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 02:22 PM
  #9  
Jeff20B's Avatar
Lapping = Fapping
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 15,725
Likes: 91
From: Near Seattle
That's a very nice secondary port with bridgey. Big primaries too, considering the injector holes and all that. I'm going to do the same on my 1st gen R5 plates. My camera sucks for close-ups, but I'll take a few snapshots for the improvement of all rotaries everywhere! Man, I could almost hear an echo when I typed that. Heh, kinda makes me feel more important somehow than hogging my port ideas all to myself. Get it? Hogging? lol
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 03:24 PM
  #10  
CCarlisi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rebreaking things
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,586
Likes: 0
From: 1 foot in Boston 1 in NJ
KD street port on Ihor's motor:




EXHAUST:


Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 04:49 PM
  #11  
CCarlisi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rebreaking things
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,586
Likes: 0
From: 1 foot in Boston 1 in NJ
JUDGE ITO PORT from Vosko's site-there were a couple pics of work in progress but these look like complete.









Last edited by CCarlisi; Jun 27, 2003 at 04:58 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 04:51 PM
  #12  
vosko's Avatar
Just Call Me Terminator!
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,848
Likes: 0
From: NJ
hmmm kdr port or ito port..... hmmmm... lol
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 04:54 PM
  #13  
GeeHee13B's Avatar
Back at it...
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 166
Likes: 0
From: Buffalo, NY
can someone go through with like photoshop or something, and point out all the parts of those pics? i know very little bout the insides
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 04:56 PM
  #14  
ZoomZoom's Avatar
SEMI-PRO
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 36
From: New Jersey
I SAY ITO PORT!! And thats what I am getting. Should be done this week.
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 05:10 PM
  #15  
CCarlisi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rebreaking things
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,586
Likes: 0
From: 1 foot in Boston 1 in NJ
Originally posted by GeeHee13B
can someone go through with like photoshop or something, and point out all the parts of those pics? i know very little bout the insides
http://www.rotaryengineillustrated.c...natomy101.html

Click on each part and you will get exactly what you're looking for.

I'd like to see a more direct shot of the KD port face to see if the curve looks any different from the others. Based on these pics the KD intake port goes down further than ITO's. I'm using the holes in the housing and the rotor track as a reference.
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 07:36 PM
  #16  
88IntegraLS's Avatar
Displacement > Boost
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,503
Likes: 0
From: Mississippi
My home-ground former NA six port primary (haven't run the engine yet) \/



The plan with this port was to make no additional overlap than the stock secondary but to create more duration. It was a practice port to find out where the water jacket limit was. Looking at it again, there is much more shaping that I would do on the real center housing.

Last edited by 88IntegraLS; Jun 27, 2003 at 07:50 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 08:10 PM
  #17  
No7Yet's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,402
Likes: 0
From: Tallahassee, FL
Why not?

13B front secondary:


13B rear primary:


12A front secondary:


BR7 Racing pwns j00!

Brandon
BR7 Racing
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 08:54 PM
  #18  
Sammymatik's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 735
Likes: 0
From: Wayward Hayward
Hot Damn!

This is what I want for christmas!

nice!
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 09:22 PM
  #19  
911GT2's Avatar
The Power of 1.3
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,835
Likes: 0
From: Shrewsbury, Massachusetts
I'm getting a KDR street port! I should have it tuesday!
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2003 | 09:31 PM
  #20  
ZoomZoom's Avatar
SEMI-PRO
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 36
From: New Jersey
Originally posted by 911GT2
I'm getting a KDR street port! I should have it tuesday!
Good luck. Its always takes forever to get a car out of that shop. Mine is sitting in there right now. First time was 3 months. This time has been over a month and counting. I figure another month.
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2003 | 01:23 AM
  #21  
CCarlisi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rebreaking things
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,586
Likes: 0
From: 1 foot in Boston 1 in NJ
Originally posted by 911GT2
I'm getting a KDR street port! I should have it tuesday!
Me and another local fd owner are driving down on monday to drop off a motor. Are you going down there or having it shipped?
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2003 | 05:24 PM
  #22  
drago86's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,165
Likes: 0
From: California, Bay Area
What ever happend to Judge Ito?
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2003 | 05:38 PM
  #23  
88IntegraLS's Avatar
Displacement > Boost
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,503
Likes: 0
From: Mississippi
I think his usual haunt is n0pistons.com
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2003 | 06:55 PM
  #24  
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 613
Likes: 2
From: North Atlanta, GA
Very nice pictures...i wish we could also get feed back on all of them. I mean, how do they perform and stuff like that.

There are already at least two types of porting shown here. One is closing intake at a slight curve and the other one closing it almost in a straight line.

I personally think if it's being closed quick like in a straight line but still with a good transition, it should make a higher intake velocity especially if matched in the same manner with the exhaust port.

Also on one of the pictures i've noticed that the port has been extended out into the oil seal a little bit. It's not going to give any draw backs? Is there is a certain rule for doing that...like can i go about 50% into it or something?

Last edited by 12abridgeport; Jun 28, 2003 at 07:01 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2003 | 11:22 PM
  #25  
vosko's Avatar
Just Call Me Terminator!
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,848
Likes: 0
From: NJ
judge ito goes to nopistons. right now he is internetless and usually only goes on for a short period at a time.

if you port into the oil seal it will smoke alot
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:24 PM.