Nelson Focus Ran A 7.0 !!!!!!!!!!!
10-21-01, 09:14 PM
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Nelson Focus Ran A 7.0 !!!!!!!!!!!
today at maple grove the nelson focus ran a 7.0. And get this, in the run that it hit 7.0 is broke the motor!!! Bad *** car
10-21-01, 09:30 PM
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And thus, the breakage karma is evened. 
Seriously... WOW... is it still a FWD? I dunno the Focus racers... Is it a 2 liter or the 2.5 liter?
Damn... that could have been a 6.999!
Seriously... WOW... is it still a FWD? I dunno the Focus racers... Is it a 2 liter or the 2.5 liter?
Damn... that could have been a 6.999!
10-22-01, 12:47 AM
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It's a full tube frame RWD Ford Focus powered by a twin turbocharged V-6 motor just under 5 liters in size!
The car runs great and has the potential for 6 sec time slips but in my opinion is no way an import as some people like to say it is. Actually it's only legal in one form of import racing mainly because of sponsorship donations made by Ford to that sanctioning body! HE HE HE!
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The car runs great and has the potential for 6 sec time slips but in my opinion is no way an import as some people like to say it is. Actually it's only legal in one form of import racing mainly because of sponsorship donations made by Ford to that sanctioning body!
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10-22-01, 08:35 AM
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Finally!!!! Someone said the truth(Cripspeed). That Hoyos Focus is NOT LEGAL IN ANY IMPORT SANCTIONING organization! I saw that car this weekend at Maple Grove and it is NOT a SHO motor(as they claim it is), as a matter of fact it's a (get this) PUSHROD DOMESTIC V6 motor, how do I know this do you ask? Well first of all it has no belt or chain drive for camshafts, which in turn make it a PUSHROD motor, NOT a overhead cam motor(which BTW, in any import drag racing body PUSHROD MOTORS ARE NOT ALLOWED!!!!!!). This PISSES me off because that is NOT a import legal car, and shouldn't by any means be allowed to compete, nevermind own the title to "the worlds quickest import car(which coincidentally really belongs to Siguel Racing from PR). How does this go on do you ask, well it's called $$$$$$$$$$. Since most of these import events are sponsored by FORD, FORD gets to break all the rules that they want to because they wanna look good, and THEY CAN'T WIN WITHOUT CHEATING!!!!! The guys with the cars from PR that attended the event know all this and their answer to this discussion was "what are we gonna do, they make the rules and change them to their favor" well what do I think they should do is somehow publicly let EVERYONE know what FORD and IDRC(and whoever else does this) are doing, this is NOT FAIR, the specific reason for rules is to keep everyone competitive, NOT give ANYONE, NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE, an edge on everyone else. All these import racing sanctioning bodies better wake up, WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH! BTW Nibo Racing from PR won the event anyway despite all the BS due to the FORD not being able to finish the event with it's motor intact(EVEN WHEN CHEATING FORD LOSES, at least this time) People if you see that FOCUS at a import event LET EVERYONE AROUND YOU KNOW WHO'S LOOKING AT THE CAR KNOW THE TRUTH!!!!!, maybe it will change the way things are done. Thanks.
10-22-01, 12:55 PM
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Wait... so an old Toyota with an OHV engine would be illegal for import racing?
I've seen rules for "import racing" that say any domestics that are FWD and 4-cylinder can race too... never anything about pushrods. (Although I think it's unfair that 3.5l Maximas can race in import racing but a 2.5l Contour CAN'T)
I've seen rules for "import racing" that say any domestics that are FWD and 4-cylinder can race too... never anything about pushrods. (Although I think it's unfair that 3.5l Maximas can race in import racing but a 2.5l Contour CAN'T)
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Originally posted by RX794
Finally!!!! Someone said the truth(Cripspeed). That Hoyos Focus is NOT LEGAL IN ANY IMPORT SANCTIONING organization! I saw that car this weekend at Maple Grove and it is NOT a SHO motor(as they claim it is), as a matter of fact it's a (get this) PUSHROD DOMESTIC V6 motor, how do I know this do you ask? Well first of all it has no belt or chain drive for camshafts, which in turn make it a PUSHROD motor, NOT a overhead cam motor(which BTW, in any import drag racing body PUSHROD MOTORS ARE NOT ALLOWED!!!!!!). This PISSES me off because that is NOT a import legal car, and shouldn't by any means be allowed to compete, nevermind own the title to "the worlds quickest import car(which coincidentally really belongs to Siguel Racing from PR). How does this go on do you ask, well it's called $$$$$$$$$$. Since most of these import events are sponsored by FORD, FORD gets to break all the rules that they want to because they wanna look good, and THEY CAN'T WIN WITHOUT CHEATING!!!!! The guys with the cars from PR that attended the event know all this and their answer to this discussion was "what are we gonna do, they make the rules and change them to their favor" well what do I think they should do is somehow publicly let EVERYONE know what FORD and IDRC(and whoever else does this) are doing, this is NOT FAIR, the specific reason for rules is to keep everyone competitive, NOT give ANYONE, NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE, an edge on everyone else. All these import racing sanctioning bodies better wake up, WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH! BTW Nibo Racing from PR won the event anyway despite all the BS due to the FORD not being able to finish the event with it's motor intact(EVEN WHEN CHEATING FORD LOSES, at least this time) People if you see that FOCUS at a import event LET EVERYONE AROUND YOU KNOW WHO'S LOOKING AT THE CAR KNOW THE TRUTH!!!!!, maybe it will change the way things are done. Thanks.
Finally!!!! Someone said the truth(Cripspeed). That Hoyos Focus is NOT LEGAL IN ANY IMPORT SANCTIONING organization! I saw that car this weekend at Maple Grove and it is NOT a SHO motor(as they claim it is), as a matter of fact it's a (get this) PUSHROD DOMESTIC V6 motor, how do I know this do you ask? Well first of all it has no belt or chain drive for camshafts, which in turn make it a PUSHROD motor, NOT a overhead cam motor(which BTW, in any import drag racing body PUSHROD MOTORS ARE NOT ALLOWED!!!!!!). This PISSES me off because that is NOT a import legal car, and shouldn't by any means be allowed to compete, nevermind own the title to "the worlds quickest import car(which coincidentally really belongs to Siguel Racing from PR). How does this go on do you ask, well it's called $$$$$$$$$$. Since most of these import events are sponsored by FORD, FORD gets to break all the rules that they want to because they wanna look good, and THEY CAN'T WIN WITHOUT CHEATING!!!!! The guys with the cars from PR that attended the event know all this and their answer to this discussion was "what are we gonna do, they make the rules and change them to their favor" well what do I think they should do is somehow publicly let EVERYONE know what FORD and IDRC(and whoever else does this) are doing, this is NOT FAIR, the specific reason for rules is to keep everyone competitive, NOT give ANYONE, NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE, an edge on everyone else. All these import racing sanctioning bodies better wake up, WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH! BTW Nibo Racing from PR won the event anyway despite all the BS due to the FORD not being able to finish the event with it's motor intact(EVEN WHEN CHEATING FORD LOSES, at least this time) People if you see that FOCUS at a import event LET EVERYONE AROUND YOU KNOW WHO'S LOOKING AT THE CAR KNOW THE TRUTH!!!!!, maybe it will change the way things are done. Thanks.
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V-6 FOCUS
The focus is a very impressive car (7.0@190+). The motor displaces 4.7 liters. This car will definately go into the 6's. Price in the range of $30,000.00 (motor only). This car deserves a lot of credit however the class it runs in is Questionable.
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10-22-01, 09:21 PM
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Wayne, you working for the ford guys now? i dont think that anybody will disagree that it is a fantastic car. the problem is that it is a domestic car! there is nothing questionable about the class it runs in, it just shouldn't be there period. J said it right, siguel is still the quickest and fastest import in the world!!
10-22-01, 10:16 PM
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J said it right, siguel is still the quickest and fastest import in the world!!
J said it right, siguel is still the quickest and fastest import in the world!!
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Oh ****.. i had no idea of this;that blows...i think that specific focus should be banned from Import competion for good....Shame on Ford..Guess thats why the good ol' saying never fails "Money talk Bullshit walks"...
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Re: V-6 FOCUS
Originally posted by waynespeed
The focus is a very impressive car (7.0@190+). The motor displaces 4.7 liters. This car will definately go into the 6's. Price in the range of $30,000.00 (motor only). This car deserves a lot of credit however the class it runs in is Questionable.
The focus is a very impressive car (7.0@190+). The motor displaces 4.7 liters. This car will definately go into the 6's. Price in the range of $30,000.00 (motor only). This car deserves a lot of credit however the class it runs in is Questionable.
10-23-01, 06:31 PM
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I know thats what you meant Wayne, but if they did that thier rediculiously expensive new car would get it's *** kicked and ford would have put up all that money for nothing.... dont they have 'street legal' domestics running solidly in the sixes already?
common, siguel is running less than half the displacement and is right on thier ***, that focus is a nice car, but it's nothing special; when you compare it to cars in it's catagory it's meerly average
common, siguel is running less than half the displacement and is right on thier ***, that focus is a nice car, but it's nothing special; when you compare it to cars in it's catagory it's meerly average
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tube frame, RWD, twin turbo 5 liter engine? Yeah that's as much a focus as I am a giraffe. If we add up all our arms/legs they both add up to 4, so I must be a giraffe. Come on now man. Just like a NASCAR is really a Monte Carlo.
10-25-01, 01:13 PM
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What would even be more disrespectful about this whole matter would be if they were the first to do 200 mph in the 1/4 and collect the $50K that Summit Racing is offering!
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10-25-01, 04:21 PM
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if that happens and they try to give them that check, i'll be the first one to protest and boycot the ****** IDRC. ford may have put a lot of money in thier pockets, but if they see people unhappy with the inclusion of domestics in import racing (sounds so simple it's complicated) and more importantly,if thier ticket sales start dropping, they might do something about all the fords comming into import racing. i've seen about 3 cars already, and with the success of the yellow car, i'm sure there will be more. i'd at least like to see them only make exibition runs or run in a seperate class; like 'domestic imports' or 'imported from detroit' or somethin that way we can benifit from the manafacturers $ by having bigger payouts, cuter bikini contest chicks....
hey, i got an idea! if they wanna run in an import class, why dont they ship the focus to japan.?
they would probably dominate the 'import' classes there.
seriously though, do they even have american v8 drag cars in japan?
hmmm every time i read this thread i get more upset. first every company involved in the import drag scene wants to suck the west coasts dick, now they wanna suck fords??! when are they gonna realize that the rotarys from the east coast and PR run this ****!!!
i wanna contact summit or the idrc and get thier response to this. the internet is a very powerful tool. anybody for a boycot??
that way we can benifit from the manafacturers $ by having bigger payouts, cuter bikini contest chicks....hey, i got an idea! if they wanna run in an import class, why dont they ship the focus to japan.?
they would probably dominate the 'import' classes there.seriously though, do they even have american v8 drag cars in japan?
hmmm every time i read this thread i get more upset. first every company involved in the import drag scene wants to suck the west coasts dick, now they wanna suck fords??! when are they gonna realize that the rotarys from the east coast and PR run this ****!!!
i wanna contact summit or the idrc and get thier response to this. the internet is a very powerful tool. anybody for a boycot??
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Originally posted by SPEED_NYC
if that happens and they try to give them that check, i'll be the first one to protest and boycot the ****** IDRC. ford may have put a lot of money in thier pockets, but if they see people unhappy with the inclusion of domestics in import racing (sounds so simple it's complicated) and more importantly,if thier ticket sales start dropping, they might do something about all the fords comming into import racing. i've seen about 3 cars already, and with the success of the yellow car, i'm sure there will be more. i'd at least like to see them only make exibition runs or run in a seperate class; like 'domestic imports' or 'imported from detroit' or somethin that way we can benifit from the manafacturers $ by having bigger payouts, cuter bikini contest chicks....
hey, i got an idea! if they wanna run in an import class, why dont they ship the focus to japan.? they would probably dominate the 'import' classes there.
seriously though, do they even have american v8 drag cars in japan?
hmmm every time i read this thread i get more upset. first every company involved in the import drag scene wants to suck the west coasts dick, now they wanna suck fords??! when are they gonna realize that the rotarys from the east coast and PR run this ****!!!
i wanna contact summit or the idrc and get thier response to this. the internet is a very powerful tool. anybody for a boycot??
if that happens and they try to give them that check, i'll be the first one to protest and boycot the ****** IDRC. ford may have put a lot of money in thier pockets, but if they see people unhappy with the inclusion of domestics in import racing (sounds so simple it's complicated) and more importantly,if thier ticket sales start dropping, they might do something about all the fords comming into import racing. i've seen about 3 cars already, and with the success of the yellow car, i'm sure there will be more. i'd at least like to see them only make exibition runs or run in a seperate class; like 'domestic imports' or 'imported from detroit' or somethin
that way we can benifit from the manafacturers $ by having bigger payouts, cuter bikini contest chicks....hey, i got an idea! if they wanna run in an import class, why dont they ship the focus to japan.?
they would probably dominate the 'import' classes there.seriously though, do they even have american v8 drag cars in japan?
hmmm every time i read this thread i get more upset. first every company involved in the import drag scene wants to suck the west coasts dick, now they wanna suck fords??! when are they gonna realize that the rotarys from the east coast and PR run this ****!!!
i wanna contact summit or the idrc and get thier response to this. the internet is a very powerful tool. anybody for a boycot??
10-25-01, 07:22 PM
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Im in too, and I can get a following, that **** totaly not fair. He might as well have a v8 in that car. But, it was nice to see a sport compact go 6s
10-25-01, 11:08 PM
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I wrote my opinions and started some new threads on the supraforum, dsmtalk forum, and (had to do it) the ford forums(he he he), if you guys wanna read these and see what some other people say check these out:
http://www.supraforums.com/supravb/s...threadid=10433
http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showth...threadid=28107
http://discussions.fordforums.com/sh...&threadid=6691
BTW I got December issue of Turbo Magazine, and oh look what's in there the ******' 4.6 liter Focus! See what I mean by the unfair comparision they're making with 2 cars, one that is completely legal (Siguel), and a car that doesn't even belong there. The BS continues........
http://www.supraforums.com/supravb/s...threadid=10433
http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showth...threadid=28107
http://discussions.fordforums.com/sh...&threadid=6691
BTW I got December issue of Turbo Magazine, and oh look what's in there the ******' 4.6 liter Focus! See what I mean by the unfair comparision they're making with 2 cars, one that is completely legal (Siguel), and a car that doesn't even belong there. The BS continues........
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10-26-01, 01:02 AM
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get everyone you know to forward a link to this page and email the idrc and complain about this!!! its gonna be a shame to let that car go into the record books as the first 6 sec import. i was there when sakura ran the first 7 sec pass, and even though it was a piston car, i was proud to see import racing come that far. while the crowd went crazy, i kept telling myself 'dont worry, rafielito will be the first one in the sixes' now it looks like siguel is gonna do it. even if a rotary dosent break into 6's first, i'll still be happy for the piston powered import that does. HOWEVER, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL I SIT QUIETLY AS FORD TRIES TO CHEAT AND STEAL ITS WAY TO THIS RECORD!!!!!!!
go to every import car site/message board/event and shop and tell people to e-mail the idrc an ultimatum; 'if the focus races, we dont attend the event'
a couple hundred or thousand of those messages and they will have to do something. after all $$$ is king, and no ticket sales=no future for idrc.
i wouldn't mind seeing the car at events because it is nice to watch, but i dont want it competing in the points races or being clasified as an import.
As much as I love mazdas, i gotta say what i feel. If mazda didn't abandon it's racers and enthusiasts this ford **** would probably never happened! mazda racers are THE most loyal racers and race fans out there who consistantly produce the best results with the least support. Honda has started dumping $ into import racing, so has toyota (look at paisly and raido's new cars) i love to see manafacturer involvement, but it would have been nice to have seen it a few years ago. these companies are just in it for the $ potential, so are SOME of the racers. theres guys like Adam S. whoring themselvs and switching to honda because thats where the $ is, or guys like Paisley (sorry Craig) building race cars to improve thier mail order and shop business. mabye yall dont blame people like them for chasing $, but i have more respect for the guys doing it for the love and respect of fellow racers. I know guys who own shops JUST to FUND the race car, NOT the other way arround. for the most part, mazda guys are that type, mazda hasnt supported racing in this country for many years now, but rotary powered cars have dominated the import racing 'scene' even before you cali guys turned it into a 'scene'
simply put, mazda guys already have love for thier motors and the sport we practically created; If mazda had been there with the $ for the last 10 years, we'd be ******* untouchable by now and that focus wouldn't even be an issue!!!!
You know what? **** it all!!! when all these honda guys, who think import racing started with the invention of V-TEC switch to ford to chase the $, and santioned import racing goes down in flames, the mazda guys will still be here, we'll just take it back to the streets!!!!!!
dont forget those e-mails to idrc! mailto:info@importdrag.com
go to every import car site/message board/event and shop and tell people to e-mail the idrc an ultimatum; 'if the focus races, we dont attend the event'
a couple hundred or thousand of those messages and they will have to do something. after all $$$ is king, and no ticket sales=no future for idrc.
i wouldn't mind seeing the car at events because it is nice to watch, but i dont want it competing in the points races or being clasified as an import.
As much as I love mazdas, i gotta say what i feel. If mazda didn't abandon it's racers and enthusiasts this ford **** would probably never happened! mazda racers are THE most loyal racers and race fans out there who consistantly produce the best results with the least support. Honda has started dumping $ into import racing, so has toyota (look at paisly and raido's new cars) i love to see manafacturer involvement, but it would have been nice to have seen it a few years ago. these companies are just in it for the $ potential, so are SOME of the racers. theres guys like Adam S. whoring themselvs and switching to honda because thats where the $ is, or guys like Paisley (sorry Craig) building race cars to improve thier mail order and shop business. mabye yall dont blame people like them for chasing $, but i have more respect for the guys doing it for the love and respect of fellow racers. I know guys who own shops JUST to FUND the race car, NOT the other way arround. for the most part, mazda guys are that type, mazda hasnt supported racing in this country for many years now, but rotary powered cars have dominated the import racing 'scene' even before you cali guys turned it into a 'scene'
simply put, mazda guys already have love for thier motors and the sport we practically created; If mazda had been there with the $ for the last 10 years, we'd be ******* untouchable by now and that focus wouldn't even be an issue!!!!
You know what? **** it all!!! when all these honda guys, who think import racing started with the invention of V-TEC switch to ford to chase the $, and santioned import racing goes down in flames, the mazda guys will still be here, we'll just take it back to the streets!!!!!!
dont forget those e-mails to idrc! mailto:info@importdrag.com
10-26-01, 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by RX794
in any import drag racing body PUSHROD MOTORS ARE NOT ALLOWED!!!!!!).
in any import drag racing body PUSHROD MOTORS ARE NOT ALLOWED!!!!!!).
I'm down for a boycott too.
**** a Focus...
10-26-01, 01:50 AM
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Alright, I guess I'll start it; here's a copy of the e-mail I just sent to the IDRC, now it's your turn!
I'm an Import racer and fan, I have been one for many many years now, before the clear tail-lights and veilside body kits. I've watched the sport I love change over the years, mostly for the better. I have watched this sport that I, and many others like me helped to build, turn into a business. There is nothing wrong with import racing becoming big business, as long as it helps to advance the sport. Organizations like yours have helped bring mainstream intrest and money to the sport, which again is a good thing as long as the sport benifits from it.
This past race season I was very disturbed with what I saw. An American manafacturer getting involved in import drag racing is obviously a contradiction. It dosen't make sense,at least not until you guys start counting all that money ford is pumping into the import racing 'business'. If you guys want to make this thing into big business and profit from it, thats fine; just DON"T corrupt the sport that we birthed and raised while you're at it!
Import drag Racing is MUCH bigger than you guys, you don't own it, and you don't have a right to ruin it!!! The Import race scene belongs to the millions of people who participate in and support it. These are the people who will ultimately decide weather it lives or dies, not you. YOU are the people who invited the cancer to the party, a cancer that is already eating away at racers and spectators morale. Mabye if that cancer began to eat away at your wallets, you would understand how serious of an issue this is.
IF THE HOYOS RACING FOCUS COMPETES FOR POINTS OR TITLE, I DONT ATTEND THE EVENT!!
remember your slogan? for the racers, by the racers? look here to see what the racers think: https://www.rx7club.com/vforums/show...734#post197109
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I'm an Import racer and fan, I have been one for many many years now, before the clear tail-lights and veilside body kits. I've watched the sport I love change over the years, mostly for the better. I have watched this sport that I, and many others like me helped to build, turn into a business. There is nothing wrong with import racing becoming big business, as long as it helps to advance the sport. Organizations like yours have helped bring mainstream intrest and money to the sport, which again is a good thing as long as the sport benifits from it.
This past race season I was very disturbed with what I saw. An American manafacturer getting involved in import drag racing is obviously a contradiction. It dosen't make sense,at least not until you guys start counting all that money ford is pumping into the import racing 'business'. If you guys want to make this thing into big business and profit from it, thats fine; just DON"T corrupt the sport that we birthed and raised while you're at it!
Import drag Racing is MUCH bigger than you guys, you don't own it, and you don't have a right to ruin it!!! The Import race scene belongs to the millions of people who participate in and support it. These are the people who will ultimately decide weather it lives or dies, not you. YOU are the people who invited the cancer to the party, a cancer that is already eating away at racers and spectators morale. Mabye if that cancer began to eat away at your wallets, you would understand how serious of an issue this is.
IF THE HOYOS RACING FOCUS COMPETES FOR POINTS OR TITLE, I DONT ATTEND THE EVENT!!
remember your slogan? for the racers, by the racers? look here to see what the racers think: https://www.rx7club.com/vforums/show...734#post197109
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I DEFINITELY think you should. I attended the last Maple Grove event and there was a lot of talk about the focus. Many of the racers were NOT pleased. I am fowarding this thread as we speak.
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I hate to see ford buy their way into this......... heres my reasons for disliking ford "import" racing
1) Since when is a car made in detroit an"import" in the US?
2) This is most definetly not a production or even limited run car. They have basically taken a focus badge, and slapped it on a drag car (American RICE)
3)Ford performance has been **** even since the mustang started to cost less than a fricken tarus!
1) Since when is a car made in detroit an"import" in the US?
2) This is most definetly not a production or even limited run car. They have basically taken a focus badge, and slapped it on a drag car (American RICE)
3)Ford performance has been **** even since the mustang started to cost less than a fricken tarus!
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I don't quite agree with the presence of an American motor at an "import drag race". But then again, thats what the rules are in place for. If you guys were following the "scene" last year, you would've seen how the rules were changed to prohibit unfair competition (Roger Scalise and his home-made wanna-be rear suspension). If competition is truely threatened, then I would expect a change in rules.
But is the Hoyos Focus really threatening competition in the Pro class ?
If you check out the IDRC points standings, you will see that the Hoyos Focus has actually been to the most events (6 out of 10, though the points havent been updated in a month or so). The next closest competitor, Efren Vasquez, has only been to 3 out of the 10 so far, but he's still in second place. In fact, the only race that Hoyos and Efren met at, on 7/29, Efren WON.
I don't plan to race in the Pro class.. so to be quite honest, I don't give a $hit if the Focus wants to race Craig Paisley's V8, the SPI V8 Lexus, or even Abel's 3-Rotor turbocharged FD.. be my guest.. to be honest, I'd like to see it.. and I hope the "true imports" kick the crap out of Ford or any other domestic wanna-be sport compact car..
But if IDRC starts to bend rules for the "real" import/street racing classes (Quick/Street/All-Motor) or if the Hoyos Focus wins every event they race at, then I'll join your fight. But until that happens, I don't really see where the threat is coming from.
And if you guys are naive enough to think that money doesn't corrupt, then you guys don't live in the same America I live in.. that's a given.. HOW MUCH it corrupts is the problem.. and like I said, we'll see how it does against the real Pro imports next year..
But is the Hoyos Focus really threatening competition in the Pro class ?
If you check out the IDRC points standings, you will see that the Hoyos Focus has actually been to the most events (6 out of 10, though the points havent been updated in a month or so). The next closest competitor, Efren Vasquez, has only been to 3 out of the 10 so far, but he's still in second place. In fact, the only race that Hoyos and Efren met at, on 7/29, Efren WON.
I don't plan to race in the Pro class.. so to be quite honest, I don't give a $hit if the Focus wants to race Craig Paisley's V8, the SPI V8 Lexus, or even Abel's 3-Rotor turbocharged FD.. be my guest.. to be honest, I'd like to see it.. and I hope the "true imports" kick the crap out of Ford or any other domestic wanna-be sport compact car..
But if IDRC starts to bend rules for the "real" import/street racing classes (Quick/Street/All-Motor) or if the Hoyos Focus wins every event they race at, then I'll join your fight. But until that happens, I don't really see where the threat is coming from.
And if you guys are naive enough to think that money doesn't corrupt, then you guys don't live in the same America I live in.. that's a given.. HOW MUCH it corrupts is the problem.. and like I said, we'll see how it does against the real Pro imports next year..