have ne1 had problems with atkins seals.
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have ne1 had problems with atkins seals.
such as apex seal wear, housing wear, loss of compression after 20k miles. Can they last 50k miles without worping or eating housings like ra seals?
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Myself, BDC, and several other consistent builders have used atkins seals for years with no adverse issues. I have seen a set here and there broken by detonation, but this is the case with any seal. IMO they are not quite as strong as mazda oem's, but at half the price, they perform excellent for most street and modified engines even up to 450rwhp. They are especially good for used housings, which some of the harder seals take longer to break in to.
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Originally Posted by rx7vadim
if most/all race teams were using stock seals, atkins would be out of bussines
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you can get oem mazda for $312 at mazdatrix, so atkins are not half price.
I think oem seals will last apox 100k of normal driving, will atkins last at least half that?
I think oem seals will last apox 100k of normal driving, will atkins last at least half that?
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Originally Posted by rx7vadim
I think oem seals will last apox 100k of normal driving, will atkins last at least half that?
An engine that lasts only 100k has something faulty, in this day and age.
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Daily redline, what does that mean? Some pansy pussyfooting the car to redline once a day is pretty wimpy. The people who spout abotu "daily redline" think RPM is good for the engine, it's not. LOAD is. So put your right foot down until carpet is crushed and HOLD IT THERE. High RPM without high load just makes the engine carbon up even faster since the stock computer or carb settings go stupid-rich over about 4000rpm under all conditions.
With the gearing I have, I have a 4000-5000rpm cruise, and when I race I have a 7k launch, 7500rpm shiftpoint with an 8200rpm rev limit. In city traffic I usually don't go over 2k, 2500 tops, though. (I don't drive city much... it's a waste of fuel!) But on the highway, especially on my drive to work, I'm probably WOT a good 30% of the time.
With the gearing I have, I have a 4000-5000rpm cruise, and when I race I have a 7k launch, 7500rpm shiftpoint with an 8200rpm rev limit. In city traffic I usually don't go over 2k, 2500 tops, though. (I don't drive city much... it's a waste of fuel!) But on the highway, especially on my drive to work, I'm probably WOT a good 30% of the time.
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Wanted to chime in here -- I like the Atkins seals. I use them primarily. They're quite good. They break-in easily and can more than easily enough handle any power you throw at them.
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Atkins corner seal wear
I always use Mazda parts when assembling motors but sometimes customers supply parts and here's a motor just taken apart which vacuum dropped from ~14 to ~11 with a bit over 10k miles.
Only Atkins solid corner seals were used and nothing was found broken inside. Side seals highly worned out on the ends and out of spec. Sides plates(irons) were all out of spec as well.
And there was NO OIL STARVATION! ....Bearings were all like new.
Also have another motor (all Atkins) to break open w/ very low miles....this one it's a seal for sure....see how it looks inside.
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Only Atkins solid corner seals were used and nothing was found broken inside. Side seals highly worned out on the ends and out of spec. Sides plates(irons) were all out of spec as well.
And there was NO OIL STARVATION! ....Bearings were all like new.
Also have another motor (all Atkins) to break open w/ very low miles....this one it's a seal for sure....see how it looks inside.
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I could understand if guys want to use various apex seals etc but why would anyone want to change to anything but Mazda in terms of corner and side seals.
Just curious, did the customer explain why he wanted to use an Atkins corner seal vs a stock mazda corner seal?
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Just curious, did the customer explain why he wanted to use an Atkins corner seal vs a stock mazda corner seal?
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Originally Posted by Boostn7
I always use Mazda parts when assembling motors but sometimes customers supply parts and here's a motor just taken apart which vacuum dropped from ~14 to ~11 with a bit over 10k miles.
Only Atkins solid corner seals were used and nothing was found broken inside. Side seals highly worned out on the ends and out of spec. Sides plates(irons) were all out of spec as well.
And there was NO OIL STARVATION! ....Bearings were all like new.
Also have another motor (all Atkins) to break open w/ very low miles....this one it's a seal for sure....see how it looks inside.
JD
Only Atkins solid corner seals were used and nothing was found broken inside. Side seals highly worned out on the ends and out of spec. Sides plates(irons) were all out of spec as well.
And there was NO OIL STARVATION! ....Bearings were all like new.
Also have another motor (all Atkins) to break open w/ very low miles....this one it's a seal for sure....see how it looks inside.
JD
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Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC
I could understand if guys want to use various apex seals etc but why would anyone want to change to anything but Mazda in terms of corner and side seals.
Just curious, did the customer explain why he wanted to use an Atkins corner seal vs a stock mazda corner seal?
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Just curious, did the customer explain why he wanted to use an Atkins corner seal vs a stock mazda corner seal?
Anthony
I agree with you as far as corner & side seals.....
I've seen total destruction on side plates from aftermarket parts. I remember someone here trying Hurley corners/ springs and what a mess !!!
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