FDNena

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Here you go.


Busa Gets owned HARD by a supra
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Modded Busa wins due to misshift

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Woulda ripped a Turbo busa a new one had he not spun like 3rd and 4th lol on the highway...You can hear him spinng the heck out of the tires in every gear.

When he hooks he lauches by the Busas..
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Walser supra again...destroying a 900RR
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A different Supra Killing a different Busa 40mph - 180mph then to 200mph
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Busa413

There is no written proof that a Busa is more aerodynamic than a ZX10R so I can't give you any articles or anything like that. The only way to explain it to you is that aerodynamics are what give you top speed, it has nothing to do with power to weight ratios and seeing as though the ZX10R and Hayabusa have about the same RWHP if the ZX10R was more aerodynamic they would be using it at all the top speed events not the Hayabusa. The ZX10R is a great bike don't get me wrong, and yes it is small and has a small frontal area but that also will leave the ride much more exposed which will kill the aeros. Using a smaller frontal area would be like saying a Mobile home has a smaller frontal area than a C-130 so it is more aerodynamic, there is just much much more to it than frontal area. It's much easier to get a car to run 200MPH with much less of a power to weight ratio than it is to get a bike to run 200MPH. Look at it this way, in stock unrestriced form a Hayabusa with 157RWHP and perfect conditions can run in the 190 to 194MPH range, but it takes almost 25 to 30 more RWHP to get it to run 200MPH. Again that all depends on conditions.

As far as the ZX10R being quicker than the Busa down low it's not entirely true. From a dead stop the Busa on average will be quicker because of so much low end torque compaired to the 10R. Around the 1/4 mile mark the 10R should start to catch the Busa until about 150 or so then the Busa's better aerodynamics will allow it to start catching the 10R and depending on how far the race goes eventually pass it.

As far as the Bike being supierior to a car it depends on how you look at it. Yeah dollar for dollar the bike it a better deal to go fast, but a cheap hooker isn't nearly as nice as a pricey call girl. Yeah for under $20,000 you can have a 300+RWHP or better bike, but to be honest I would trade my bike in a heartbeat for any car that could run 10.99 or better, wouldn't think twice. Also when's the last time you were riding your bike and got hot and turned on the a/c or got hungry and stopped to grab a bite to eat? There are many more advantages to having a fast car over having a fast bike. Yes a bike is a cheap way to go fast, but to me it's not near as impressive as seeing a car smoke a bike.

Busa413

you don't need 1000RWHP to beat a stock bike. 600's can be beatin with 600RWHP or even less and 1000's can be beat with under 900RWHP. It all depends on the race you are running, the skill of the driver/rider and how the car is set up.

FDNena

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Right a 600rwhp car that sticks will beat a 600.

Busa413

First off that is not a stock bike if you do anything to it it is not stock. And from everything I read on that video it was stock according to pro star "stock rules". This means that aftermarket parts can not be installed in the bike's motor. This does mean however that they can degree the cams, port the head, clean up everything inside the motor and balance the motor, weight the front end(maybe a lead brick that many use in drag racing), custom mapping, racing fuel, and the list goes on and on.

Not only that but he is not an "average" rider, an average rider is someone that might go to the tack once or twice a year for the fun of it but does most of their riding on the street, a good or great rider is someon that competes. Also where did you find information that those numbers were not corrected, you are big on needing to see proof so how about coughing some up.

Busa413

or in certain roll races.

angelrx7HEAVEN

i agree, that is all very simple logic..and i can say..those videos dont really show anything, i need real footage like the link i provided with open road and guys doing a roll and racing for a very long distance without any traffic...start to finish.....and if those bikes got beat by that cow, those riders suck ****..lmao, i tach my bike at 14k ...1st gear to 104..i hit 165 in less then 10 secs..without a hitch....but i am not gonna bother..i love cars too , to each his own..i will have the car to beat a 600..once my 383 and auto tranny is all set rite in my fd.....with a 200 shot spray offcourse

and again i doubt dont cars can do it, just not stock, and definitely not with me so far..have yet to see it. and offcoure i eat on my bike, pull over talk to lady and chill. (radio...ok i admit i miss that) and hookers..umm i wouldnt know, but i like quick booty as long as its free for me.lol but i hear ur points, and i virtually agree with most if not all of them.

Busa413

how the hell do you hit 165 in under 10 seconds???. that i'd have to see to believe.

angelrx7HEAVEN

busa u ever come to nyc...if u are hit me so we can hang man.....u really need to get on a 10...its an incrdible machine...when u hit third and u have to lurch forward with fear at throttle u know u have a monster.

turboR1

He has never been in anything that fast so to him it feels like mach 1.


I have a friend that has a 295hp turbo busa that started straping lead weight to keep the front end down... he is up to over 90 lbs and still having trouble going down the track. the more power u put in the bike the harder it is to run hard..stock is hard already to run at its full potential thats why so many 11 sec cars destroy bikes. I see it all the time...

ANGEL if u have a hard time believing that you have never been around a fast car... and they are not rare or unstreetable. everyday cars with everyday people its not rocket science. geez give me 8k and an EVO and Ill race your zx10 from and STOP and watch what happens..


OH and if you look at 1\4 mile times for a 600 and a 1000 there isnt much of a differnce. maybe a .5 sec. SO if you can beat a 600 easily your not to far off from beating a 1000.. the 600 is just as hard to run as the 1000

angelrx7HEAVEN

to busa ok 165 in 10 is hopeful but i know in 11 - 11.5 secs it will defintely be done.

to turbor1
and again if u read my post u will see that i just agreed with busa and his assertions by the most part...i am still wondering what is ur arguement here...i mean we know sum cars can beat bikes, and we know it i havent seen it on film yet either...but i have beat a katana 600 on my late 350 sbc 1st gen 7...so i know it can be done with certain bikes...as for the 600's and 1 liter bikes being close...dude u need to do ur home work..nothin close about a high 8 sec run versus a low 10 sec run...yeah about two secs rite at 150 + ...that quite a distance..but whatever man ...i made my point earlier...bikes rule for quick fast and simple speed...cars have the comfort and protection so many need....to me in the fun department, bikes rule, in comfort cars dominate,and overall i wont forfiet either..i love them both for different reasons...thats why i have the fastest bike this year, and soon to be reborn fd 383 sbc...when shes out the shop i will race any 600 and i think i will have a good chance, especially if they're are 02 models and under.

turboR1

The new zx10 is junk.. .Sorry Angel to knock ur GODlike bike but I cant stand kawi's.. it has horrible craftmanship. look at it up close it looks like it was built on the same assembly line as those knock off pocket bikes....

And what 1000 does high 8's in the quarter?? i thought ur's was the fastest at 9.7

and even if u have the fastest bike YOU will still lose to low 11 sec cars in a race.. so much for having the fastest thing on earth Angel...

turboR1

and the zx10 traps what 135 in the quarter in 10 seconds... but somehow you will hit 165 right..

Busa413

That is what I was getting at, there is no way a ZX10R with even a couple grand in the motor would hit 165 in ten seconds, not from a dead stop at least.

MeatGaZer

Speaking of fit and finish. Seen the new k5? Absolute trash. Kwak had a really bad rep in the late 90's. As of 2003 things started to change alot. In terms of Fit and finish my 10 seems right up there with Honda and Yammy.

angelrx7HEAVEN

look at the video i have on hear the rider does a corected speed of 8.8 at 152...lol imagine 3 more secs....or 2 more..and this is without nothin more then a 1 tooth gear reduction, and a slip on...my bike is way lighter then his too, just a tid bit...his **** is truly factory...well i cant believe when u see, what can i say. that was a track no disputing it, and at 9 secs without correction he did 152 and 153 traps every time

angelrx7HEAVEN

u sound like a real loser man, like i said bring it...ur to scared, and now u whine like a baby..cry on.lol me and meatgazer just gone laff at u. cause we both copped the fastes thing out there, bar none..eat that

ur opinion doest count lil guy...its been best bike 2 years in a row, nexxxxxxxxxt

Motor City RX-7

Sport Rider picked the '05 GSXR....fit and finish notwithstanding

btw Kent, who writes for SR, is on this forum (Kento)

in another year or so the current crop of bikes will be old news anyway....just like computers....boasting about a bike you bought at the dealership like thousands of other people is pretty stupid

someone lock this thread....it's asinine by now

turboR1

OK so your saying that a stock zx10 with 1 tooth down does 152 trap and a 8.8 quarter mile... geez im not even going to bother arguing about that.. ur a retard plain and simple.

and the gsxr 1000 won best bike this year not your crap zx10..

and u think im jealous that you have it.. please its the cheapest bike of the bunch and there is a reason for that.

only reason u prob have it is cause kawi was the only dealership that would approve ur loan.. there giving those things away cause no one wants them. they will aprove a 16 year old with no income..

so it sucks for you that honda, suz, or yamahaha wouldnt sell you a bike.. ahaha

Umrswimr

This coming from the man who can't spell or punctuate his way out of first grade.

McBride61

LOL I love these threads.... All I have to say is show the video :-D
FYI: Kawasaki and Suzuki TOGETHER made the new zx-10 AND the new gsx-r 1000. The guy stating that kawi's suck is an idiot! Do some research. And a few k in mods goes a long way. Uhh bikes are fast lol Get a bike and you'll see :-D My stock R1 runs high 9's.

fcrx88

dude this thread is outa control. you guys are just going to keep arguing about nothing. where is this going. some cars are faster than bikes but most arent. there i just saved you another 10 pages of arguing. having had both fast cars and fast bikes i prefer the fell of a fast bike better. nuff said. now stop wasting time and go back to work. thanks that is all.

oh yeah and busa413 i got the silver and black. im gonna stretch a few inches and spray the hell out of it. hows the spray going on your busa?

angelrx7HEAVEN

see...there u go, u make sense..now send that special message to turbor1...maybe he can understand ur reasoning

MeatGaZer

Actually turbor1... it's divided. Half the mags out there gave the zx10 best bike 2 years running. The other half gave it to the brand new K5. Both perform almost exactly the same. With almost identical weight, power and torque. All it comes down to is aeshetic preference. I myself didn't like the cyclops headlight so I picked the 10.

angelrx7HEAVEN

ur talkin so much childish garbage at this point u ought to be tied around a tree a beaten with a belt...i mean what sense are u makin in this thread and who is even cares as most fools u resort to foolosih talk when u dont have a leg to stand on...a car to drive, or a bike to show.lol