Oh now we're going to mods into the whole thread?
Now this is a waste of my time...


-Ted

 

lets not down american cars now. LIke earilier it is whoever has the money has the speed. You can build a trans am alot cheaper than a rx7 or a supra and eat their doors off. And the handling of the cars is not that bad either. I believe my 99 ws6 was almost .90g's on the pad and that is a very heavy car. Remember you can make any car fast at anything if you got a pocket book to do it.

 

it doesnt matter what country your car is from. it sucks and is a waste of money that depreciates faster than butter melting in the microwave. get over it.

 

lol... Funny thing is that supra, and Indy kids supra will probably walk your bike from a hwy race.. probably even from a STOP since I highly doubt you could even launch your bike worth a ****.

I have bikes too and an 11 sec car, I cant stand when people brag about there bikes.. yea ofcourse there fast but most people cant ride them fast. I couldnt even count how many times ive seen 11 sec cars destroy bikes from a stop because the guy didnt know how to ride. While your fighting trying to keep the front wheel down that turbo car is gone..

And why are we comparing a supra to a TA... you people are telling me you would rather have a fast TA over a supra that holds 5 times the value handles better and looks better and is overall a much better car.

There is always someone faster so who cares who wins. The supra could run more boost next time or do more mods just like the TA.. You could make a YUGO faster then that TA.. so what...

At the end of the day which car would you want to go home with.. ?????

 

Lets see here, a beautifully sculpted Trans Am WS6 with MORE power, and jsut as good handling, or a retarded jellybean downsyndrome Supra, that weighs pretty much the same as the T/A... oh, and has two less cylinders.. hmmm... T/A!

More car for the dollar "Bwaahh waaah waaaaaaa boohoo.. its an american car it cant handle! its obviously just like a 72 Buick!!!!!" STFU you dumbass stereotypers, Maybe if your lame *** could actually DRIVE a car instead of pointing it down the highway and WAITING until 3 grand for your power you wouldnt be talking **** about such a venerable car. Maybe you should stop buying into the myths and start lookin at the facts. Just because it doesnt say "Made in Japan" or "Alles Fur Dutscheland" on it doesnt mean it isnt good.

 

HHmmm....the supra...powered by a BBC. I mean come on...it's a pig just like the TA. It's not exactly known for its handling just like the TA. But it looks better than the TA. Which is why I think the big block would be pretty badass in that car. It won't see road or autox duty-EVER. It'll just kick *** from the light and on the highway-a nice street car. As far as cost, I can't how much it would cost. I don't really care since I probably won't do this unless I have assloads of money and time. It's just a nice thought.

I don't really buy cars because they hold their value, and my big block would probably depreciate it faster anyways . Don't worry-it'll go in a NA supra.

 

Oh jesus, more stupidity.

 

just an fyi, the mkiv supra pulls better figures in each category than the FD and the FD is a handling dream..

i cant believe people in this thread..no credit to a 3.0 liter 6cyl..you guys are forgetting the inline 6 layout was one of the best layout for power making..making incredible amount of torque down low with the help of boost from a big single to keep on moving in the upper rpm range..its a win win situation..

some turbo kits allow you to have up to 600rwhp with the stock fuel system on pump gas..and thats all on the stock engine..idk about you but thats amazing to me..

we all know what these cars can do, thats why people act stupid and try to put them down when they see one lose..cause its like once in a lifetime..

 

So you're implying the supra is known for its handling?

 

what figures?

i have plenty of repect for the powerplant it has. but for overall horsepower and torque output, a BBC is dominant. talking pump gas, people run big blocks on it with close to 1000hp. you'll find those competitors at the pump gas drag competitions.

 

no, its a touring car but for a car that size and weight, it can hold its own..

yeah but you are forgetting that the v8 was created WAYYY back then, engineers perfected it almost..i mean look at the LS7, **** is a monster..but like i said before, people are forgetting its just a 6cyl with 3 liters of displacement. with stock internals, it can handle big boost and high hp..people dont give credit to that at all..

and the figures, theres an old stat page about stock vs stock, the supra has better numbers than the fd in all categories..people will still deny that to this day cause its "old" but since thats all we had, thats what we'll go by..

 

Yes, you of course know how I ride and how long I've been riding. Have you ever launched a bike before? Even a bad launch on a bike is usually ahead of a car. Go end your life retard.

 

The problem isn't that no one respects or thinks that the 2JZ was a good motor. The problem is the ********* that run in here and brag about how much better their Supra is because they paid an inflated price for it and got the ******** image that went right along with it.

Congratulations, I'd feel proud too if I spend $30k on a ******* 12 year old Toyota.

Let's also not forget the fact that everyone bragging their *** off about their rice machines and how good they are at riding also can't spell worth a goddamn.

 

I'm sure it is more superior in its category, which is fine. But my point is that the supra is not known for its handling characterisitics. it's known for being a high-horsepower street car.

I always give credit to the 2jz powerplant. i never bash it. but i think there are more sensible ways to go about extracting 1000+hp. since it is primarily a street car (in most cases), it just comes down to a matter of preference.

 

This statement could be true. However not in my case. I bought the car for the shear fact that it is truely awesome sports car for the strip, track, and street. It does it all very very well. If I wanted image I would have bought a ferrari or a lambo.

 

Yeah, me too. But, then I would have done a top-to-bottom disassembly, balanced and blueprinted every single component, re-engineered and replaced what I could with carbon fiber, titanium, or whatever, then exhaustively street-and track tested the whole package, accepting no worse than eights in the 1/4 mile, double the suspension frequency at the same travel, and 250 mph top speed on an open road, not to mention 1.2 minimum lateral g on street tires.

Then I would have image and performance. Yeah. That's the ticket!

 

This is the best and worst thread ever.

 

yeah the supra is known for its amazing high hp potential and amazing top end performance but just because people neglect the handling, doesnt mean it cant do it..thats why i stated that it pulled better numbers (handling wise) than the fd stock vs stock..i guess you can call it a better "performer" than the fd but its personal preference..

and more sensible ways to extract 1000hp?? what do you mean? like for a drag only car?? i agree but they do it cause they can and with ease..honestly i think its pointless to have a street car with that much hp anyway..

 

to me, there's more to handling than just numbers. not that they're pointless but, meh, you know...

yeah, just street/strip duty. i agree with that, which is why it is going to be based on someone's preference more than anything else.

I would have to agree with you there.

 

This makes me laugh everytime I read it.

 

Its one of the fastest fad-a-riffic ricer image-conscious moneypits around!

 

And they only lose when they are out of tune or the driver misses a shift. It's true.

 

lol so just because the car was in the stupid *** movie fast and furious makes the car less than what it really is??

if anything, the people who buy supras (some) are the riceriffic kids who buy them because of the movie..the car itself is an amazing machine..and like someone else said, the car only loses when the person cant drive it, its prob still has the stock twins or the car is not tuned (not running in perfect shape)..other than that, its whipping all cars on the road (large majority)..

its all hate really..its a shame, you would think people will hate on a car that actually "sucks"..they are hating on the wrong car LOL..

 

ppl just talk them up like they are supercars, when they are obviously only sports cars.

I don't want to sound negative towards the supra, but there are many other cars that are just as or even more capable than it. Fat dyno queens don't really impress me.

 

Well that's cool then. If you want to pull all of the potential out of that car in every arena then I respect that. I just see alot of them around this area and the typical attitude of the owner is "bow down to me, I own a Supra". I never understood why, because I could afford one, I know alot of people that could afford one, they just never piqued my interest. Not to say that they aren't badass and very capable, but that's just how I feel.