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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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thanks, i'm not here to razz anyone, cause i love FD's, FC's, and basicly any car that can handle good. You guys seem to be real good sports about V8's, because most import owners are decidely not.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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a forged bottom LS1 is going to have just as much potential as the 2JZ.

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That is was the whole point. You don't need to because it's already done when you get the car. Even so, you show me any kit(no Nos) that you can get 400rwhp out of ls1 for $300 bucks.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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That is was the whole point. You don't need to because it's already done when you get the car. Even so, you show me any kit(no Nos) that you can get 400rwhp out of ls1 for $300 bucks.
Let's face it IndyKid, if you were to take a poll here I believe that a significant majority would prefer a Supra over some hillbilly TransAm anyday.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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people are going to hate me for this...but how much did it cost him to get to that amount of horsepower? what does the area under the curve look like? a forged bottom LS1 is going to have just as much potential as the 2JZ...and the cost is minimal to put in forged rods and pistons. your power curve is also going to be a lot more "driver friendly".

if you want to go cheaper, use an iron block "LS1" and punch it out to 7 liters...that'll get the turbos spoolin' up nice and quick! but that deviates from the original comaprison anyways...sorry.

in all honesty, though, i think a 1000+hp streetcar is pretty ridiculous either way you go about it.

Trying to stay on topic here...nice job to the guy in the TA.

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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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the 2jz was made to make power

thats why people who wants to build high hp with these engines ALWAYS suceed because it comes easy..

this video shows that the other car had more power..wow, that means nothing..

if you look through the net for supra videos..90% of them show them whipping the other car's ***..simple as that..

engine is amazing
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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American cars can't handle...waaah. Thats all i ever hear from you import dudes. I happen to love ALL cars, and i can see the strength and weaknesses in diffrent cars, and it is documented that 3rd and 4th gen Fbods CAN handle very well from the factory, and even more so when set up properly. Remember, not only imports can handle.
I agree with him, each cars has its own stregnth and weaknesses
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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thats cool i like supras and all but im looking for an fbody as a daily driver so i can still keep the seven, it just giving me to high of a running costin the end it will be my weekend car.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SoontobeLS1'd
what does the area under the curve look like?
between shift points, better than an LSx. Granted the bottom end is somewhat weak, but they pack a plateau of power where it counts.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by audiobot7
Ls1's are alum. blocks
you can get an iron LSX block out of a truck for cheap sometimes. 100 bucks for a core when i worked at the dealer Trucks mostly get the iron lsx block. Actually, i think it would be "Gen III" block.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by diesel power
Let's face it IndyKid, if you were to take a poll here I believe that a significant majority would prefer a Supra over some hillbilly TransAm anyday.
I don't see why Trans Am's are hillbilly. Does owning a rx-7 or a supra make you a homo-erotic ricer club boy? No, i don't think so. A good car is a good car. LS1's have endless potential, and so do 2jz's. These are BOTH in fast cars, just because you are biased toward one or the other will not change anything. I vote for my twin turbo LS7 project though..

The recaro 1982 trans am pulled a 0.856g in 1982, stock. yeah...so hillbilly, they can't handle.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 07:33 AM
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So what did that Trans Am have? 800 whp? It would have to have a good amount if the Supra was 600 and it walked it like that. Why does everyone argue. If a car weighs about the same amount, and has a lot more horsepower, it will walk a car just liek that. What is the big deal. Let a high hp Supra run that Trans Am and see if the result is the same. No sir.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by quick_brick
I don't see why Trans Am's are hillbilly. Does owning a rx-7 or a supra make you a homo-erotic ricer club boy? No, i don't think so. A good car is a good car. LS1's have endless potential, and so do 2jz's. These are BOTH in fast cars, just because you are biased toward one or the other will not change anything. I vote for my twin turbo LS7 project though..

The recaro 1982 trans am pulled a 0.856g in 1982, stock. yeah...so hillbilly, they can't handle.

.856 sucks pretty bad. Sorry

I actually like TA's, but not those models.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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There is always a faster car, no matter what you do there will be another car out there to beat it. There is no sense in argueing because it will just go around in circles all day. That is a really fast TA tho.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 07:57 AM
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I don't see why Trans Am's are hillbilly.

You wouldn't because you are a hillbilly and can't look outside in. The trailer park that is.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by IndyKid
You wouldn't because you are a hillbilly and can't look outside in. The trailer park that is.
sorry, i was out huntin' for some coon meat, in my mullet and all!
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rotorsownyou7
.856 sucks pretty bad. Sorry

I actually like TA's, but not those models.
a 1990 IROC-Z will pull up to .90 on the skid. If i recall, the enchated with japanese mana all ruling savanna RX7's pulled .91 thats not much better than the iroc, really. and thats an unmodded iroc, when you start modding it (SFC's, tubular LCA's, ect ect) you have yourself a true G-machine. the 82 handled pretty OK because, for having bicycle tires and very little power, those cars were still decently handling cars. The updated specs on the 85's through 92's is what most of us 3rd gen guys look for, some of those early ones didin't even come with rear sway bars.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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good kill supras are great cars but not unbeatable i plan to get one in a couple of months but i am still keeping my 7 i dont like domestics but i appreciate anything fast and thats a fast ta!
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by quick_brick
a 1990 IROC-Z will pull up to .90 on the skid. If i recall, the enchated with japanese mana all ruling savanna RX7's pulled .91 thats not much better than the iroc, really. and thats an unmodded iroc, when you start modding it (SFC's, tubular LCA's, ect ect) you have yourself a true G-machine. the 82 handled pretty OK because, for having bicycle tires and very little power, those cars were still decently handling cars. The updated specs on the 85's through 92's is what most of us 3rd gen guys look for, some of those early ones didin't even come with rear sway bars.

Please tell me we're not going to have a pissing contest on the handling of 3rd gen F-body vs an FD. I think that ship sailed about 12 years ago.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SoontobeLS1'd
if you want to go cheaper, use an iron block "LS1" and punch it out to 7 liters...that'll get the turbos spoolin' up nice and quick! but that deviates from the original comaprison anyways...sorry.
That's about one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.


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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by quick_brick
a 1990 IROC-Z will pull up to .90 on the skid. If i recall, the enchated with japanese mana all ruling savanna RX7's pulled .91 thats not much better than the iroc, really. and thats an unmodded iroc, when you start modding it (SFC's, tubular LCA's, ect ect) you have yourself a true G-machine.
If you had any clue on suspension performance, you'd understand that skidpad G's don't mean ****.

That IROC is running 245 / 50 / 16 tires.
The FC is running 205's...maybe 225's.

The FC will run RINGS around an IROC when you talk about overall handling.
The IROC underdamped and too front heavy.


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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
That's about one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.


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How so?
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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wow that trans am is a beast! but its hard to see how really fast they are since the supra isnt a slouch either.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by audiobot7
Ls1's are alum. blocks
I was referring to the LQ9, which is an iron version of the LS1 and used quite a bit for high-boost applications. one of the reasons being (besides their strength) they are cheap and easy to come by.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by IndyKid
That is was the whole point. You don't need to because it's already done when you get the car. Even so, you show me any kit(no Nos) that you can get 400rwhp out of ls1 for $300 bucks.
450$ but close as i could get
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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450$ but close as i could get
What is this? I said NO NOS!!
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