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Why don't they have more FC Turbo 2's in road racing?

Old Jan 3, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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Why don't they have more FC Turbo 2's in road racing?

I see and hear about more people running N/A's than Turbo 2's. Does a T2 hold up under road race conditions?
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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works great when prepared right, but sadly there are not many sanctioning bodies that have a place to run these cars. stuck running the unlimited type classes.
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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yeah SCCA doesnt allow any turbo cars, unless you can convince someone it belongs in ITE
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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SCCA = no turbo cars allowed. (FDs are allowed but they must have N/A engines!)

NASA = only class I think T2s would be allowed is Super Unlimited or whatever the class is called. As you can imagine with a name like that, modification required to win is somewhat involved.
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 09:49 PM
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Thank for the info guy's. At our track we don't have to follow SCCA rules. I guess that's why I didn't know.
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Old Jan 7, 2003 | 12:40 PM
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why doesnt SCCA allow turbo power? doesnt make any sense to me
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Old Jan 7, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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They don't allow them in SCCA because its an unfare advantage
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Old Jan 7, 2003 | 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by 787B
why doesnt SCCA allow turbo power? doesnt make any sense to me
Too hard to regulate.

Dodge 2.2 Turbos and DSM 2.0 Turbos used to totally dominate SCCA road racing. Call them the main reason why turbos are banned.
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Old Jan 7, 2003 | 04:03 PM
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why doesnt SCCA allow turbo power? doesnt make any sense to me
mainly because the SCCA has a hard time classifying and teching turbo cars. there are alot of things that can be done to turbos(even stock appearing ones) to make more power, so this makes the SCCA train or find qualified people to tech these cars and they just don't have the time or technology to do it. so it is easier to just not allow them in any class, tech done.
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Old Jan 7, 2003 | 04:20 PM
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regulating, AND cost. this is supposed to be amateur racing. it would become a boost war. the people with more money would increase the boost to reduculous amounts and then when the engine goes, oh well, ill just spend 2k to rebuild.

but actually what would probably happen is they'd set a max boost in the rules, but would still be hard to regulate.
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Old Jan 7, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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make turbo cars run on 87 octane pump fuel. problem solved.
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 11:05 PM
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what would be good is everyone runs a restrictor plate... NA and turbos... that will take the unfair advantage of anyone wanting to run 100 psi turbo
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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Not really. For example, WRC cars have to run a 36mm restrictor. The WRC cars make 300hp, and the run extremely high boost at low RPM and so they make incredible amounts of low-end torque. WRC teams aren't given to handing out dyno sheets but I would wager that their engines make 300hp from 2000rpm up to redline.

Even if you could make an N/A engine make 300hp through a 36mm restrictor, it is NOT going to have a HP curve like THAT.
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Old Jan 14, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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"if it aint broke, dont fix it" i think everythings fine the way it is
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