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Old 06-11-06, 01:10 PM
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Top mount starter?

Having poked around various cars with their bodywork off, I noticed all the CSR and Atlantic cars have a much smaller topmount starter than the old RX-2 style one. Anyone know what the heck it is, and where to get one? Mazda Motorsports mentions a "HOUSING, STARTER" for a Ralt RT-41, which is the right chassis, but is that the right bit?
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Old 06-25-06, 11:16 PM
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Hrm... noone around here runs FM, FA or CSR?
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Old 06-26-06, 12:01 AM
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i dont..whats wrong with where the starter is now? i think its easy access liek the alternater unless u are referring to sumthing else LOL
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Originally Posted by Kenku
Having poked around various cars with their bodywork off, I noticed all the CSR and Atlantic cars have a much smaller topmount starter than the old RX-2 style one. Anyone know what the heck it is, and where to get one? Mazda Motorsports mentions a "HOUSING, STARTER" for a Ralt RT-41, which is the right chassis, but is that the right bit?
They are probably modified auto 13B-REW, 13 or 20B-RE starters.
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Old 06-28-06, 06:53 PM
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I have one

I have a mazda crossle CSR, it has the little starter sits on top, not sure of the actual application though, I bought a spare which was top mount but it was much heavier and larger, I think it is an rx2 for the little one
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heres your starter

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Old 11-08-06, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EL5Letra
i dont..whats wrong with where the starter is now?
Most cars/transmissions have the starter on the "engine" side of the flywheel, as opposed to the "transmission" side like bottom-mount starters.

If you are trying to use an alternate transmission/transaxle, being able to bolt the starter to the engine makes swapping much easier, as it eliminates a LOT of fabrication, or alternately the need to use a Mazda bellhousing chunk.

If I could find a top-mount starter that I knew would 100% definitely work with a N/A flywheel, I would be able to adapt a GM bellhousing to the engine, permitting me to use a Chevy V8 T5 (2.95 First) or a wide ratio T10 fourspeed (2.45-2.65 First) or if I got the deal of the century a close ratio fourspeed (2.20 First).

For under $100, I could get a topmount starter from NAPA. Without knowing if it would definitely work or not, I don't want to drop the cash.

The basic Chevy boltpattern/layout is the de facto racing transmission in the USA. Any serious race transmission (Jerico, Liberty, Brinn) is made in at least that pattern.

If we were in the UK we would be adapting Ford Rocket four-speeds or Type 9 five-speeds, since that is what everyone runs there and what most of their arftermarket is geared (npi) towards. In Scandinavian countries, it would be Volvo four-speeds. That's just how it goes.


Another thought. Having a topmount starter would make yanking the trans that much faster. I have done a trans swap in one hour, a lot of that would have been saved if I didn't have to mess with the ground cabled through-bolt or having to remove the starter to get at the FU bolt mounted behind it.
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Old 11-17-06, 10:49 AM
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Hrm, coming back to this months later...

That starter's actually different from the one on Downing and Muscha's car... still don't know what those were. Found a pair of RX-2 starters kicking around the barn though (argh, need some sort of organization!) which might work. Have to play around with manifold designs...

Kinda coincidentally, the project has evolved to the concept of using something T-10 based behind the engine.
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