Hello guys ... I was woundering if someone could give me some dementions on the panhard bar setup you have on your car.... How did you set it up?

The guy in Florida is not interested in helping out so I can't do his kit... Anyone have any idea's?

Anyone have any pictures of their rear-end?

 

G-Force panhard with tri link

 

I posted in your other thread.

Just keep inmind the suspension in the above pic is at full droop. The bar is even with the bottom of the diff (+ or -)at ride height.

 

In that picture.... Where does your exhaust exit?

What is the difference between having the mount on the right vs the left... Some people have told me it has to be on the left...

In other words... The bar attaches to the axle on the passenger side of the car ... Not on the left in this picture -

 

On the race cars you usually run the exhaust under the rear end along the stock path.

As for mounting the panhard to the chassis on either side there are all kinds of opinions. I don't think it matters either way and I've seen the modeling programs used by Jim at GForce. When Jim and I did the first two cars we put the chassis mount on the passenger to put the weight of the mount in a useful spot. These cars end up light in the right rear when you remove the stock exhaust. At the time there was no ballast allowed in IT and the cars were about 100 lbs light in that corner. My car had some pretty thick metal used for the mount and a little lead might have melted into the vertical part through a hole in the floor...

 

I recall reading in the Milliken book (I think) that with regard to panhard bars it's desirable to mount them such that they will typically be in tension.

 

The practice as to which side of the chassis the Pan Hard mounts to has to do with which turn direction you desire to have the roll center raise or lower. The roll center will raise when making right hand turns per the bar in cap7man's picture & the roll center will lower when making left hand turns with the same setup. When the bar is mounted to the chassis the opposite will happen. cap7man, next time your around Tom T's car take a look, bar to chassis left side.

 

David seems like we turn left a lot down here for some reason. I was sure Toms bar was on the same side. I'll dig up a pic of his later and post it if I can find it. Hopefully he'll be at TMS this weekend.

 

David, that makes sense but as I can recall (its been over 12 years since I was in business with Jim at GForce) the roll center in the back of these cars isn't that touchy on height. There was about a 2 inch range that the modeling showed almost no difference in wheel loading. Since we turn both directions the weight location is more useful to worry about.
The chassis mount on the pass side also helps with room for exhaust to go under the rear end. The panhard bar only moves about 1/4 of how far the rear end moves where the exhaust goes under.