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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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are the e-stop buttons the same as kill switches? if so are they sufficent to pass scrutineering, or do you have to put in a dedicated kill switch as well? I am seriously considering using this system, am very interested how you find it.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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are the e-stop buttons the same as kill switches? if so are they sufficent to pass scrutineering, or do you have to put in a dedicated kill switch as well? I am seriously considering using this system, am very interested how you find it.


these switches have nothing to do with the rules, I've installed these on my own. I have the required battery switch. these switches are strictly to increase the level of safety, it was an option made possible through the ISIS system. So far I haven't found anything I would change with this system.

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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 01:23 AM
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you have blown my ******* mind!!!
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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I haven't posted in several days but rest assured I have been busy with this wiring! it seems like every time I have a nice bundle of wires tie rapped or taped, I always seem to find another wire that belongs in that bundle .
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come on al,

we all know the REAL hard part will be picking out which stickers to display!
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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I seriously think a fellow should wire the entire car, take it all apart and then do it again, taping and doing ties. My car has taught me a great deal of what not to do. One of my early goals was to put the relays where the current was needed, allowing for less big wire in the car. Turns out it is a pain in the a$$. I have four relays, two for fuel pumps in the back of the car (1 for both lift pumps) and one for rad fan and one for ignition in the front. I also did the entire car with breakers, so it was a lot of hand fabbing of the panel. Next car I'm going to lay it all out, get all the wires run, loosely taped and then, when everything is in, start cutting things to length, soldering them in and doing connectors. I'm also seriously thinking about using a pre-built marine breaker panel. I also plan to use a dash unit with the Microtech and use way fewer gauges.

Lately, I plan too much and do too little. Good job doing more.

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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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here's my latest addition to the project. it's a two stage pump attached to an electric motor. I saw something similar in a race car and when I called they wanted way to mu$h, so I just made it myself for about half the $. I'll be using it for the tranny and diff fluids. the pump is from raceline pumps and the motor is from a shurflo pump I had laying around, a couple of hours and some aluminum and a little welding later, viola!




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here it is in its new home


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next on the list is a heat shield for the headers
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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That looks good Al. Did that really work out cheaper than a Tilton diff oil pump? I guess once you buy two pumps, I guess it probably would

Are you going to control the pump based on oil temps? If you are, can ISIS handle that, or will you use the ECU to handle it? I've read that some diff/gearbox oils are too thick for the Tilton pump (as an example) when they're cold, do you think this will be an issue at all with this pump?
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by vortex`
That looks good Al. Did that really work out cheaper than a Tilton diff oil pump? I guess once you buy two pumps, I guess it probably would

Are you going to control the pump based on oil temps? If you are, can ISIS handle that, or will you use the ECU to handle it? I've read that some diff/gearbox oils are too thick for the Tilton pump (as an example) when they're cold, do you think this will be an issue at all with this pump?
if you go the tilton route it's actually a few bucks cheaper, but then you have the amperage draw of two pumps and the added weight. this is actually a miniature dry sump pump so there shouldn't be any viscosity issues. I will be using the ISIS to control this via a thermal switch.

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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 06:41 AM
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Hmm. Diff oil is generally 75w90 (to pick a common one) but motor oil more like 5w50 (once again, to pick a common one), that says to me the diff/transmission fluid will be more viscous than the engine oil it was designed for - are you sure the motor and pump will handle it OK?
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by vortex`
Hmm. Diff oil is generally 75w90 (to pick a common one) but motor oil more like 5w50 (once again, to pick a common one), that says to me the diff/transmission fluid will be more viscous than the engine oil it was designed for - are you sure the motor and pump will handle it OK?
the pump was specifically made for tranny and diff, it is sold only for that purpose.

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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAl...
the pump was specifically made for tranny and diff, it is sold only for that purpose.

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Ahh Gotcha Definately looks like a good option, in that case
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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I got some more work done on the car, we cut some louvers to relieve pressure from the front wheel well.


here's the sticker template I had made


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here it is after cutting


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here's Rob doing his thing





here you can see the stringers I made to hold the fenders, they turned out a LOT sturdier than I expected


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The fenders are Shine Auto fiberglass deals.

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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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when do you think the car is going to be ready to run?
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ssonsk
when do you think the car is going to be ready to run?
Ahhhh, the million dollar question! I was really expecting to make the December race but obviously that's not happening. so my goal is March.

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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 04:13 PM
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Hey Al, you better work alittle harder...lol

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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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This thread is incredible! Can't wait to see the car done. That must be a great feeling of satisfaction.
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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 04:59 AM
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hey bigAl,

would u do something similar for the rear? if so, how?
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 04:56 AM
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over a month since Al's last post.
I demand MOAR rotary sex!
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 05:11 PM
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This thing is insane. I love builds like this, absolutely ridiculous. I can't wait to see it when it's ready to go.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Syritis
over a month since Al's last post.
I demand MOAR rotary sex!

Patience young Jedi! I've been working really hard, project is moving forward more than ever! pics soon.

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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 10:49 PM
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I can see where you've expanded from Rob's build. I REALLY like the attention to aero!
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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Hands down one of the Coolest, Badest *** Builds,
Keep it up.

What Sanction Body and Class do you plan to run under?
Sorry if you've already replied to that question.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by tetangata
I can see where you've expanded from Rob's build. I REALLY like the attention to aero!
I really enjoy the aero stuff, I feel like for the most part it is some of the easiest and cheapest mods to do and probably the greatest returns.


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Hands down one of the Coolest, Badest *** Builds,
Keep it up.

What Sanction Body and Class do you plan to run under?
Sorry if you've already replied to that question.
I race a local sanctioning body called FARA (www.farausa.com) the rules are pretty relaxed, classes are basically broken up by displacement. they usually get a good turnout and the racing is pretty good. but for perspective sake if I were to run scca my car would fall under GT1.

thanks for the kind words guys

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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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Yeah. You could indeed run GT1.
I have a FD GT2 Legal car i run in SCCA. Except it's a complete built from the ground up tube frame car my Grandpa and I built.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 12:37 AM
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OMFG!!! I come back 2yrs from the last time I checked your thread and you were just installing your side exit exhaust, and I went through the thread were i left off and you have made so much progress it's making me want to build a race car as serious as yours....man it's so enjoyable reading your thread I'm so stoked on the outcome...I don't need to say but I am...you're project is 1000000000000000x awesome!!!!! Keep it up BIgAL!!!!
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