Power FC Ignition Map, what the.. and some other questions
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Ignition Map, what the.. and some other questions
Good evening,
So i finaly got my car running. Its a used PFC, was on a NZ FC3S with hybrid turbo, 800ccm secondaries and 3" exhaust, produced 260whp. Well so far.. I have taken some time to write down the Ignition Maps (i have no datalogit lol). As far as i know, stock split between Leading and Trailing is 15° ATDC. Well, as i looked on this maps.. look yourself, what do you think??
Are those BASE maps of an FC3S PFC? (I have a A.P.Engineering PFC) I havent found em on the net yet...
can i use a FD3S Ignition BASE MAP? BC i have a IGN-L map of a FD3S PFC. And can i take this IGN-L map, and just screw up the IGN-T by 10-15° more than IGN-L?
Also my car's idle is 11,4:1 AFR, but if i start driving it, i can only drive it with not more than 1inch accel.pedal pressed. if i go further, it becomes really lean, lets say 16:1-18.1. I have tried out the fuel correction test, and screwed it up to 1,500, driving the car was a LOT easier, it got lean sometimes (14.5:1) but not more than that, and the peak of KNOCK was 68...As soon as i accelerate softly, the knocklvl goes up (but no light is illuminating in idiot cluster) oh, O2 feedback is off, because of LM-1.
well.. its a just rebuilt engine and i am not allowed to drive the car in boost levels for the next 1000km.
oh.. i have tried out map trace and ghost also.. idk why, but i always stay at PRESSURE 06, no more no less.. it only moves with the RPM (N03-N08 for example)
and my BOOST is always at 335mmHg-350mmHg
hope you guys help a newbe out
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Electornics:
Power FC + FC Commander
3 Bar GM MAP Sensor
Innovate LM-1
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Mods:
Aggressive Streetport
Racing Beat FULL exhaust
Apexi intake
800cc secondaries
Walbro pump (rewired)
So i finaly got my car running. Its a used PFC, was on a NZ FC3S with hybrid turbo, 800ccm secondaries and 3" exhaust, produced 260whp. Well so far.. I have taken some time to write down the Ignition Maps (i have no datalogit lol). As far as i know, stock split between Leading and Trailing is 15° ATDC. Well, as i looked on this maps.. look yourself, what do you think??
Are those BASE maps of an FC3S PFC? (I have a A.P.Engineering PFC) I havent found em on the net yet...
can i use a FD3S Ignition BASE MAP? BC i have a IGN-L map of a FD3S PFC. And can i take this IGN-L map, and just screw up the IGN-T by 10-15° more than IGN-L?
Also my car's idle is 11,4:1 AFR, but if i start driving it, i can only drive it with not more than 1inch accel.pedal pressed. if i go further, it becomes really lean, lets say 16:1-18.1. I have tried out the fuel correction test, and screwed it up to 1,500, driving the car was a LOT easier, it got lean sometimes (14.5:1) but not more than that, and the peak of KNOCK was 68...As soon as i accelerate softly, the knocklvl goes up (but no light is illuminating in idiot cluster) oh, O2 feedback is off, because of LM-1.
well.. its a just rebuilt engine and i am not allowed to drive the car in boost levels for the next 1000km.
oh.. i have tried out map trace and ghost also.. idk why, but i always stay at PRESSURE 06, no more no less.. it only moves with the RPM (N03-N08 for example)
and my BOOST is always at 335mmHg-350mmHg
hope you guys help a newbe out
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Electornics:
Power FC + FC Commander
3 Bar GM MAP Sensor
Innovate LM-1
-----------------------------
Mods:
Aggressive Streetport
Racing Beat FULL exhaust
Apexi intake
800cc secondaries
Walbro pump (rewired)
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It sounds like they where using a different Map sensor, like a stock FD style and you need to tell it that you have a GM 3 bar.
You need to get a Datalogit or have someone that has one download that map and see what are all the setting that they changed.
I would not boost it at all untill you get the A/F into the green
You need to get a Datalogit or have someone that has one download that map and see what are all the setting that they changed.
I would not boost it at all untill you get the A/F into the green
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a stupid question, but have to ask you
well, i want to correct my ignition timing maps, and there is one thing i cant understand.
i have read over 100 threads about split etc. almost evrything.
example:
if my ING-L shows me 15° (ATDC), and i want my TRAILING to fire 10° later, should i put in the ING-T 30° or 5°?? on all base maps i find such things like:
IGNL = 10°
IGNT = 0°
in my thinking, trailing fires at TDC.. could somebody please explain?
ps.
i have an AP. Engineering PFC, and the split at P5 raw is from n05-n09 (-5 to -6 )
i have read over 100 threads about split etc. almost evrything.
example:
if my ING-L shows me 15° (ATDC), and i want my TRAILING to fire 10° later, should i put in the ING-T 30° or 5°?? on all base maps i find such things like:
IGNL = 10°
IGNT = 0°
in my thinking, trailing fires at TDC.. could somebody please explain?
ps.
i have an AP. Engineering PFC, and the split at P5 raw is from n05-n09 (-5 to -6 )
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nobody want to tell me?
i have read threads about mazda idle, and that pfc cant affect the idle timing without DL settings.
but hey, just tell me how i should adjust IGN-T.. to positive, or towards negative to let IGN-T fire AFTER IGNL.. i dont get it
i have read threads about mazda idle, and that pfc cant affect the idle timing without DL settings.
but hey, just tell me how i should adjust IGN-T.. to positive, or towards negative to let IGN-T fire AFTER IGNL.. i dont get it
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yes.. but THATS the point!
SPLIT is IGNL - IGNT = (15°-10°=+5°).
So, WHY is IGNT 10° (LOWER THAN 15°, that means BEFORE 15° (IGNL)) BEFORE IGNL? i dont get it. what is the mistake in my thinking?
also, my FC Commander shows me IGNL 20° and IGNT 11° while driving, that means IGNT is firing first, IGNL after IGNT or not?
SPLIT is IGNL - IGNT = (15°-10°=+5°).
So, WHY is IGNT 10° (LOWER THAN 15°, that means BEFORE 15° (IGNL)) BEFORE IGNL? i dont get it. what is the mistake in my thinking?
also, my FC Commander shows me IGNL 20° and IGNT 11° while driving, that means IGNT is firing first, IGNL after IGNT or not?
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damn, i am so sorry guys..
thats a stupid mistake of mine.. i was referring to a website about the powerFC which explains that POSITIVE DEGREE in Ignition map are ATDC! and this just cant be.. so my confusions kept on.
http://www.turborx7.com/powerfc.htm
Someone has to correct this, as there might be others which are new to powerFC and get wrong information.
thats a stupid mistake of mine.. i was referring to a website about the powerFC which explains that POSITIVE DEGREE in Ignition map are ATDC! and this just cant be.. so my confusions kept on.
http://www.turborx7.com/powerfc.htm
That is an example of a Ignition Timing Map for the leading spark plugs. The map is once again measured in RPM vs. Load. This time, the units of data is degrees. A positive number is in degrees ATDC (After Top Dead Center). Negatives mean BTDC (Before Top Dead Center)
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