RETed

The deal with you was for $4,000 and an LS1 + T56.

The $6,000 deal was to Snyper for an LS6 conversion.

I did not say anything about a deposit.
I did say it was cash in person.


-Ted

MazRx7FD

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While attempting to read all the crapping on each others engines I just want to say, what the **** is the point of this arrgument! Holy **** guys, some one likes a LSX in there car... good for them, or Rotary, good also.

Next your going to argue that a 7 second honda is better then a ferrari, why? becuase it goes really fast in the 1/4 mile?

It all depends on what car you want to build, and im thinking of doing an LSX swap just to see what its like, I havent had a chance in riding in one, becuase I most people I know that own Rotaries all own FC's and no FD's. (I know there can be V8 FC's but I just saying these guys are broke and treat them like ****). I wouldnt mind being in a V8 FD and just feeling the pull.

Rotary or Piston there engines, each have certain advantages and disadvantages.... each partial to the certain person depending on what they plan on doing with there car.

Also I would say that rotary can be reliable, I am yet to blow a engine. But I dont go 145 down the I5 all day. I dont race every single civic that pulls up next to me and takes off. I just enjoy the ride in my car.

Good luck with this thread, and wish you all the best with your RX's. If anyone knows a V8 FD (or FC) in Orange Cty, Cali (or within a reasonable distance) and wouldnt mind meeting up so I can take a quick ride along sometime... Im down.

Peace guys,
Rob

Eat-Pez

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Nope, you're changing the deal you said "400hp", nothing about engine, tranny, or other options. And I'm not going to start on a car for anyone without a deposit. I've got 2 cars to finish and 2 other cars lined up, waiting to go in my garage. Sorry, by the time I get done with all that, I'll have more cars lined up, so you're not going to get in the line without a deposit. Even the guys that are local to me understand that.

RETed

So we're at a Mexican stand-off...
I stick by my words.
Running car...400hp...$4k cash in hand.
I did not mention anything about a deposit.
If these cars are that desirable, then selling it for twice that amount would not be a problem, so there is no way you'd be stuck with it?


-Ted

fc3s91

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Man this reminds me of a friend that went v8. He acts just like jim lab and the other v8 guys. How cares about what engine is better. Its what you like!!!
Robert

jamespond24

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+1

jimlab

I think you'll find that my intent is to educate ignorant rotary fans about reality, not to argue about which engine is better. Personally, I don't care what engine people put in their car. It is, after all, their car.

I think you'll also find that I consistently tell people who like rotary engines to stay the hell out of this forum, because it serves no purpose to start arguments with people interested in installing an alternative engine in their car.

They bitch about V8 posts in the other forums and move them here, but then they come here to talk about the rotary. Makes perfect sense.

fc3s91

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If you are a v8 guy, Why are you on a rotary forum. That quote you said " I think you'll also find that I consistently tell people who like rotary engines to stay the hell out of this forum, because it serves no purpose to start arguments with people interested in installing an alternative engine in their car. " Should apply to you on this forum. That is why I can't stand v8 guys. They always have to justify why the v8 is better. My opinion is if you take care of any engine it will last. I myself is a technician for over 15 years. I have seen many engines. Thats my 2 cents.
Robert

jimlab

Who said I was a V8 guy? I could be a V12 guy, for all you know.

Because it's an RX-7 forum, not a rotary forum, and I own an FD.

There's an OEC forum because some people recognize the car as a well-balanced platform to build on, and don't care what engine originally powered it. Way to be open-minded, pal.

How is pointing out the shortcomings of the rotary engine justifying that the V8 is better? If the V8 didn't exist, the rotary engine would still have the same shortcomings.

Is you speak English language 15 years also too?

Subtract 2 cents for postage and you have the true value of your opinion and your post. Kindly remove your dumb *** from the OEC forum.

fc3s91

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You just prove my point. You are a jackass!!!!
Thanks

jimlab

Yes, I proved that you're an idiot, and you're in the wrong forum. My apologies.

Snyper

I just spit my drink all over the keyboard.

Snyper

Can you elaborate a little more on this? Im not exactly sure where your going with this. Also, who gives a **** if you were a mechanic for 30 years? Ive seen drummers whove been playing for years who still suck...Time isn't knowledge when it comes to this...experience and research are.

BogusFile

Most of these cars would be reincarnated into paint buckets if it weren't for someone taking up an interest in their chassis. If anything I'd think that true RX-7 enthusiast would be delighted at the thought of the favorite cars getting a new lease on life. Hell I doubt that there are enough LS series small blocks laying around to fill the demand for RX-7 shells though out all of North America. Just my 20 cents(adjusted for inflation).

Snyper

Haha, yeah right. Theres more LS engines out there now than there are VTec engines.

jimlab

Well, even if there aren't, the good news is that the're building more of them every day and they just get better as time goes on.

Eat-Pez

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No, we're not at a stand off; like I said, I've got 2 to finish right now and 2 more that I've already recieved deposits for and 1 more that I'm in negotiations to possibly begin after that. Not to mention, that this isn't my primary scorce of income, so I've got other things to do with my time as well. Also, I'm pulling the engine out of my personal FD this spring to paint the car and engine bay.

If you want to wait untill I've got a break in my schedule, then you'll be waiting a while. I don't have time to build cars to sell anymore, the cars I build are already sold.

Eat-Pez

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Only because they're being attacked by rotary guys. They're not trying to justify which engine is better, they're explaining WHY they did the swap in the first place. Every V8 guy on here will say, "if you're car is fast... rock-n-roll, brother". They don't care what YOU do with YOUR car, but when they start getting attacked for what THEY do with THEIR car.... that's when the **** starts slinging.

Snyper

Just like the rotaries right?

jimlab

When Mazda offers a rotary powered car that makes 400+ bhp stock and passes emissions, I'll be impressed. I'll be even more impressed if it gets 28 mpg on the highway.

RETed

You basically hit the nail on the head...

The whole feel of this is like when...Chevy and Ford guys get together.
It becomes a pissing match of who's better...

I just wanted to debate about the COSTS on doing such a conversion.
It turned into a **** match on what the actual costs are.
I'm debating what is better - each, obviously, has it's merits.

I know costs is highly dependent on your locality.
I used to live in Sacramento, where costs for metal fab is fricken' cheap compared to how it is here in Hawaii.
"Scrap" steel / aluminum / SS / most plastics were sold by the pound!
No fricken' way I am going to get that kinda prices here in Hawaii.
I tried to price a sheet of 0.040" 48" x 48" sheet of 6061-T6 aluminum brought into Hawaii, and I was quoted over $200 landed.
That same sheet of aluminum was $50 in Sac.
Wanted a roll cage?
Chris Alston was literally right down the street...
Try to get a GOOD roll cage built in Hawaii?
HAH! First mortgage your house and THEN wait another 5 years!
If you know the shop, he'll bump you for a spot maybe 1...2 years in the future.

These guy claim they are just defending their passions...
It still smells like an old Chevy-vs-Ford pissing match.


-Ted

Snyper

...and can withstand over 100k miles of hard abuse and low maint.

jimlab

If all you wanted to do was rationally discuss the costs associated with converting and you're puzzled as to why that didn't happen, then maybe you should review your own posts. Your "You can't do that for $X" attitude isn't likely to lead to a peaceful discussion, and neither is trying to compare rotary costs to V8 costs, because that looks like an attack too.

You're just as guilty of turning this thread into a shitfest as anyone else Ted, so save the holier-than-thou act for someone more gullible.

fc3s91

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What a jackass!!!!!!

Snyper

True, but hes right.