teddyrx2

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This is a gsl-se front cover with a modded front motor mount in my rx2 will take better pics tomorrow.

510wagon

ok so i am going to buy a front cover and oil pan. i just need too know what i need exactly, the GSL-SE oil pan is longer buy it will work with the GSL-SE front cover? do i just need to drill and tap a spot for the oil line from the turbo and one for the oil cooler? it will just bolt right on?

joeylyrech

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the pan its not a direct fit to the T2 motor,there its a small area that needs to get seal off.

510wagon

ok in the front? any pics or more info on what to do? what about the front cover?

RotorRican

Hello

Can you elaborate some more on this?

Am planning on doing a swap like this one day, any pictures?

thanks.

510wagon

thats what I'm saying i need to find out this stuff. I'm kinda stuck tell i find out what i need then i need to find the parts.

teddyrx2

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the block off plate in the pic directly under the water pump is where the stock oil injection would go that is now blocked off. I drilled and taped out the old oil injection rod that goes into the front plate that has a gear at the end of it that runs off the e-shaft gear and made that my oil return for my turbo. On the other side of the oil cover the stock location for the oil feed to the oil cooler is there. So no worries there. Couldn't get any pics got home late you know what hold on here is a pic of my other motor using 12a plates 13b gsle housings that will get the same mod here soon for my turbo oil return line. stay posted.

510wagon

what motor is that on?

teddyrx2

iTrader: (33)

That pile of **** in the circle right there is what your going take off!!! You will not need it unless you want to you can.

The bad!!! they leak and create a mess and don't ever seal right

The good!!! keeps and gives your rotors some kind of loob.

But if you run pre-mix you will be fine it's the same thing.

Now if you take this mechanism off if you buy a used one there will be somewhat of place where he/she would think to put a flat head and un-screw. Don't do it doesnt' work. You have to go from the inside of the front oil cover and remove the cotter pin that holds it all together to remove the whole shaft. When the cotter pin is taken off, and the shaft comes off. You got two options tap and thread that hole and use as your oil return for the oil. OR make a block off plate and just cover it up. Your choice

Picture 2



After he/she take the oil injection chinga dera right below it is half drilled out hole with no threads no taps and is blocked off in the rear. Drill through that blocked off wall tap and thread according to size and there you go!!! Your oil return line from the turbo.

Picture 3



Other side of the oil front oil cover showing the feed line for the oil to the oil cooler in its stock location untouched or tampered with. The gsl-se come like this already.

510wagon

ok a good help. I'm going too keep that mechanism stuff on it so i just take it off and it will swap right on a gsl se cover? and there is still that hole under it for the turbo oil line? and then it just bolts right on? how about the oil pan?

'84-12A-GSL

I think the OMP on the GSL-SE is different than the one on your engine. I know the 12a one is different, so iunno if yours will bolt up to an older front cover. You might need an older OMP if you get a different front cover. But it might work.

teddyrx2

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Where that arrows is drill out that back wall thread it should be dash 8 or dash 10 when your done. not sure my brothers datsun has the oil lines hooked up down there.

If you want to keep the mechanism stuff you have to use the gsl-se oil injection like the one in the pic above. the turbo oil injection chinga dera WILL NOT WORK! WILL NOT FIT!

teddyrx2

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What about the oil pan?

510wagon

so i get a gsl se oil pan and its too long? and it has to get a gap filled it? or will it fit right with the gse se front cover.

teddyrx2

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I will tell you right now let me go and take some pics really quick so you know what your working with

510wagon

ha ok.

teddyrx2

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gsl-se oil pan



gsl-se front oil cover



gsl-se oil pan and oil cover mounted on my s5 turbo block!!!



With the oil pan in the correct position all the holes line up. If you go this route you will have to move your motor forward to clear the sway arm or the steering rack.



bottom of the oil pan!!! all hole line up!!!

Now here is the thing i recommend puttin the oil pan that way he/she would do if him/her were going to build the motor the normal way with the oil pan facing the right direction its easier. If you go the other route and and rotate the oil pan 180 degree's you will have to tap and drill new holes and thread them. Your call, your car.

510wagon

well to make the oil pan fit in it the hump has to be on the back so it drops down behind the cross member that would be backwards? could i re drill the oil pan and use the stock threads?

and thanks for pics

teddyrx2

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yeah you can do that. Just redrill new holes on the oil pan

RotorRican

Hello All


Teddy thanks for taking the time and posting the pictures to clear all question about the fitment.

Am pretty sure this combination, 13B NA or TII block/GSL-SE front cover and oil pan is one of the most use when doing a swap on a any car.

510wagon,
Good Luck with your project, cant wait to see the final results.


Andres

joeylyrech

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we did the same swap on a 510 wagon and a 87 mitsubishi pick up,on the 510 we finished banging the firewall back a little bit in order to sit the motor further back to clear the oil pan that was sitting on top of the stabilizer bar(its that the correct name?,We use the GLE-SE front cover and pan but the pan started leaking after a short period of time,i founded a small gap betwen the pan and the front cover in the front area,maybe it was installed wrong but the same thing happen after a while on the mitsu 2,we fixed using high temp silicone,let me see if i can get some pictures

teddyrx2

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NO NO NO. PLAYA PLAYA. Please don't hack up the fire wall by hitting to make the motor fit. Good and quick solution but in the end it make the engine bay look like ****. Hey 510 dude ima keep my eyes peeled for some gsl-se front oil covers and oil pans.

510wagon

i found the parts i was told by him it will work i just need too be sure before i buy them up. https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=701728 this the stuff, i just don't know about the OMP i was told the 84 gsl se and 88 TII will swap. but that front cover is a 85 sooo will i need a omp form that 85?? i don't know what to do about the omp. and its a shorter oil pan but from what i under stand it will do the trick.

teddyrx2

iTrader: (33)

Im a little unsure on what your asking? If dude said 85 gsl-se then its a 85 gsl-se. Dont' worry bout the omp right now just get the stuff so you can move forward with your build. How much for the pan? 1984-1988 the oil metering pumps are the same and will fit so no worries there buddy

510wagon

well its just that i don't want to buy some parts and find out i don't have a omp that works. some people say it will swap some say no. front cover is $60 and pan is $50 thats his asking prices