islandsnow

Yes I've seen Mr. Kaneko's 510 it had an REW motor last time I saw the car. He's car is amassing and that is by far the best rotary 510 ever.

I just picked up my own 510 and will be doing the motor mounts and trany this weekend. Should be another fun project for me. yey

510wagon

what did you get for a 510? lets see a thread for this project

Jeff20B

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My friend is looking at a 510. It will be delivered to my place for 13B action as soon as I'm finished with the white '83 GSL.

Siraniko

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and when would that be since you kept on getting new projects.

islandsnow

I will, but the orange 510 is coming back this weekend. So I can finish up the IC piping and so on. My car will porbably take longer as have other project lined up. Corolla mango soon to follow after possiblly just an NA street port set up. But I should have enough photo from the previous build up put together something for you....

Jeff20B

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Next week.

510wagon

Ok i put the 13b in today too get an idea of what's going on. the oil pan wont flip around and do me any good. i think it will just clear the sway bar. The cross member will need too be cut out and ill make a new one lower as low as it needs to be put in.
i will get it out and take the starter and a couple other things off, too make life a little easer. didn't get in enough to see where the turbo hits or any thing. If there are any other rotary 510's any one knows off, and has pics plez post them up.

some pics from tonight

islandsnow

That oil pan wont work. Get a 13b oil pan gsl-se or earlier 13b oil pan. Then flip it back.

Heres some pictures this should give you an idea what you'll need to do. You should have an idea on the motor mount and the trany mount. let me know if there's any thing else.

Arnel

510wagon

o yes thats a help. the two pics are 510's? i want to get a front cover off a GSL-SE so i have the 4 studs sticking out the front for my motor mounts, an i right saying this will work? like this one for sale https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ht=front+cover
mine is a 88 will that still do the trick? and you are saying get that oil pan too.

islandsnow

yes or any 12a front cover will work. heres a few more pictures, both cars are 510 one with TII and the other is a cosmo motor. As you can see I just made the mount and welded them on the frame rails, looks like your handy with the welder you'll need to extend the oil pick up tube ( just like the one wacky posted) enough so that's is on bottom of the pan.

islandsnow

You can see from the orange 510 stock turbo and manifold will work, but you'll have to notch the frame rail. If you look close enough you can see where I notched the frame rail near the waste gate actuator. And if you plan a head make your trany mount to clear your exhaust pipes.

'84-12A-GSL

Ah, so a 12a Front cover WILL work... Maybe I'll trade you my 12a front cover for your S4 cover. So than I'm not left with a incomplete spare engine...

But than my engine would have zero means of engine mounts.... hmm

510wagon

so will this work? if so what will need to be done? make a oil line fitting for the turbo?

510wagon

ok i have an idea, i will get a GSL-SE oil pan and extend the oil pick up tube. for the motor mounts i was thinking about using my stock front cover but where there are 2 little tabs sticking out the front, i will make a 1/4 inch plate that fits on each side of them. Then drill through it and bolt them too it. weld the little tabs i make on too a flat bar going accost, too the 510 mounts that i will mount to the frame rails.


pics of the part I'm talking about using as a mount.

what do you think?

soschic4eva

jacobcartmill

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i think that front cover is an oily mess

510wagon

ha you wouldn't be leave how much undercoating was on that hole car they coated everything. so do you think my idea will work?

initial D is REAL!

Thanks for the cool pics. Are you sure that alluminum front cover tab is good for the engine mounts?

510wagon

thats what i want too find out. its going to have a rubber mount on the end of the bar if i do this. so it wont be a solid mount. but will the tabs hold up or break off? any ideas?

teddyrx2

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USE THE GSL-SE FRONT OIL COVER in the long run and in the future fab work will be alot easier. And if your going to weld on that front oil cover you have in the pic above, you best clean that with Gods hands sent from above. Aluminum welding always has to have a 90%-100% clean surface. With any kind of oil Contaminants, or any kind of dirt from the motor when welding on a dirty surface the filth and grime will get sucked into the weld. The weld it's self will not look good, or even worse yet will look horriable and not work well and will sooner or later break.

510wagon

O no I'm not welding on it. i was thinking about making a a plate that goes in front of it that has tabs that match up by it and bolt through the tabs. its a pain in the *** to get these parts where i live also. thats why i was thing about doing this. and for the oil pan what one will fit a 88 TII? GSL-SE? i found one for sale but its 1inch longer i was told it will still work is this true?

teddyrx2

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to do that swap you need the gsl-se oil pan and the front oil cover.

initial D is REAL!

Well, if its the tab you showwed in the picture, I would not mount it off there. Factory uses the center iron. I would honestly look for somehting a little more sturdy. I can see that pice cracking off or the front cover gasket not lasting too long. Those are 6mm or 4mm bolt holes holding in that front cover.

If you need to mount the engine and it has to be closer to the front, maybe you should find a spot in the front iron. Those holes for the ps, and ac might not be bad. Sorry I cant be of more help, I've never done this myself, but that front cover is a bad place honestly

islandsnow

There's already 3 pages on this thread including pictures. If you cant find a gsl-se oil pan locally go to racingbeat website and order it from them/get a 1st gen front cover, make a new front motor mount. That tab is not strong enough to support the motor specially if your are going to drill right through it.

teddyrx2

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Order from racingbeat or mazda trix little expensive but well worth the investment. the front gsl-se oil cover comes with the 4 mounting holes already there.