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510wagon 09-21-07 09:47 PM

datsun 510 13b TII swap.
 
Just started my project tonight, i bought a 1988 rx7 turbo II car and I am swapping it into my 1972 Datsun 510 wagon. the wagon is stock its; under 2200 pounds, 92HP at the crank, 3 speed auto. so it should wake it up. I will also need to come up with some way of making a lsd fit in it. I bought a FMIC on eBay I'm waiting for it now, bought a 3" vibrant turbo muffler, the exhaust will be a 3" down pipe and all the way back to the muffler and i will be getting some kinda resonator for it. taking off all the stuff i don't need on the motor, air pump, ac, ps, and i will make my block off plates. some pics so far.....

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1190429009

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1190429026

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1190429054

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1190429075

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1190429091

more info and pics to fallow as i go....

'84-12A-GSL 09-21-07 10:40 PM

A month ago I was %100 sure that you guys wouldn't think twice about putting a rotary in that thing. You guys were all about the SR20 or built L20B, now look!

Funny how people change...for the better :)

islandsnow 09-21-07 10:43 PM

Rotary in a 510 :icon_tup:

If you gonna use the stock ecu be prepare for a big head ache, and get your self a shop manual. I suggest you go with the stand alone makes it a lot easier to wire the motor. I wish I can show you the one I just finished but my desk top computer crash and I lost most of my photo's.... Good luck with the swap.

RotorRican 09-21-07 10:52 PM

Nice!


Thats one clean 510!


Keep us posted of your build up,

blwnrtr93 09-21-07 11:39 PM

Shame to see a straight TII get scrapped... but a nice 510 wagon.

510wagon 09-22-07 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by blwnrtr93 (Post 7355938)
Shame to see a straight TII get scrapped... but a nice 510 wagon.

HA you didn't see the other side of the car. or inside it.

510wagon 09-22-07 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by islandsnow (Post 7355813)
Rotary in a 510 :icon_tup:

If you gonna use the stock ecu be prepare for a big head ache, and get your self a shop manual. I suggest you go with the stand alone makes it a lot easier to wire the motor. I wish I can show you the one I just finished but my desk top computer crash and I lost most of my photo's.... Good luck with the swap.


ya going with the stock ecu i think. kinda on a budget so. as for the shop manual and suggestions on one to get or one not too get?

bluemunkey1820 09-22-07 10:31 AM

just look right here
http://www.teamfc3s.org/main/factory...ual/1986_1988/

680RWHP12A 09-22-07 11:50 AM

here are some short videos of a rotary conversion on a datsun 510 to get you motavated :).. if you would like to see some pics of the build let me know..

link to videos

http://www.ammarsgallery.com/510/

510wagon 09-22-07 04:34 PM

there is some good stuff on the manual for me and the 510 vids are great can i get pics of them? and whats done to them?

'84-12A-GSL 09-24-07 05:53 PM

Sooo...don't know if this project is going to go on...Gas in oil.

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/gas-my-oil-691193/

510wagon 09-25-07 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by '84-12A-GSL (Post 7363598)
Sooo...don't know if this project is going to go on...Gas in oil.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=691193


project is still going not going to rebuild it yet just going to get it in and going and when it comes time then rebuild it. and some others little things

'84-12A-GSL 09-26-07 06:17 PM

False Alarm!

680RWHP12A 09-27-07 01:46 AM

more pics of the 12a turbo 510 build
link

http://www.ammarsgallery.com/510pics/

510wagon 09-30-07 07:17 AM

some stuff i bought

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1191154530

510wagon 10-22-07 09:05 PM

this is in need of a update
its ready to be pulled out. i have every wire from the car out and all still connected to the motor. so its like all on top it. just need to finish building my crane lift thing. and it can come out, with everything on top of it. then take some stuff off it and do a little cleaning, block off plates. I bought a fmic on eBay for 58$ still need a BOV and couple other little things.

pics of motor with ALOT of wires on top.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1193104805

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1193104822

i need to get some pcis of the lift we made when its done. its made out of a 3/4T Chev rear end and some other random scrap from work.

islandsnow 10-22-07 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by 510wagon (Post 7446586)
pics of motor with ALOT of wires on top.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1193104805

Hey did you pull the motor out? All I see are wires galore...

510wagon 10-23-07 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by islandsnow (Post 7446845)
Hey did you pull the motor out? All I see are wires galore...

ha its in there somewhere. i didn't have a lift made so i just kept going at the wires and got probably every wire in the car thats connected to the computers out and on top then i will take off what i don't need to make still run. because i cant afford stand alone or any thing crazy like that.

510wagon 10-24-07 09:07 PM

Its out and the home made crane works bomb!

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1193277800

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1193277898

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1193277947

PseudoKirby 11-06-07 01:59 AM

damn, awesome project, hope it turns out well

although I never liked the wagon 510

510wagon 11-06-07 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by PseudoKirby (Post 7486118)
damn, awesome project, hope it turns out well

although I never liked the wagon 510

O come on how can you not like a wagon thats under 2200pounds? we were going to get a 2 door but the wagon was the only 510 close to me and its like half what the 2 doors go for. and now i really like the wagon, its different.

initial D is REAL! 11-07-07 01:41 AM

Nice engine hoist! I used to have a 510, the only thing that turned me off on the rotary swap was having to cut the firewall and tranny tunnel to place the engine further back in the engine bay. Keep us posted

510wagon 11-07-07 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by initial D is REAL! (Post 7487997)
Nice engine hoist! I used to have a 510, the only thing that turned me off on the rotary swap was having to cut the firewall and tranny tunnel to place the engine further back in the engine bay. Keep us posted


ya I'm not really sure if its going to need to be cut yet, maybe a little. but the Datsun is the automatic, from what i understand there is a bigger trans hump so it might fit. with out cutting.

BENDER420 11-07-07 06:34 AM

WOW, that looks a bit scary! i think ill stick with the 12a for a while.

cant wait to see this thing fly!

rotary510 11-07-07 11:34 AM

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you can minimize the amount of trans tunnel and firewall cutting if you use a gsl-se center housing and oil pan. unfortunately, you would have to take the engine apart to change the housing and flip the oil pan around, but it would allow you to mount the engine on the factory crossmember if you fab the mounts. the install will look a lot cleaner. i dont have a wagon, but on my coupe, i just needed to hammer out a spot on the trans tunnel for the slave cylinder.

i've attached a few pics from a car that i was modeling mine after. so i can't take credit for being the first to do this. but i have to give props, this setup was the cleanest i've ever seen for a rotary into a 510. granted it isn't a turboII motor, but i think the key install points warrant some merit.


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