BLACK MAMBA

iTrader: (58)

just finish installing my microtech to my rebuilt motor, im using 850cc for primaries and 1600 for secondaries, with a t-70 turbo ar .96, and full port with high compresion rotors, the car starts and idles at around 1600 rpm but is running to rich all you see is the smoke and the smell of fuel, can any one help me adjusting the maps.

hondahater

iTrader: (2)

check out my thead a little further down the page. Should be good for a rough tune.

hondahater

iTrader: (2)

Idle Map
Screen 1

30" ~ 1.38
25" ~ 1.48
20" ~ 1.33
15" ~ 1.71
10" ~ 1.71
05" ~ 1.62
00" ~ 2.00
2-20psi ~ 4.95

Load Map
Screen 3

30" ~ 0.95
25" ~ 1.19
20" ~ 1.33
15" ~ 1.71
10" ~ 2.14
05" ~ 2.57
00" ~ 2.86
2psi ~ 2.2
4psi ~ 3.2
6psi ~ 3.8
8psi ~ 4.4
10psi ~ 4.9
14psi ~ 5.5
16psi ~ 5.9
18psi ~ 6.5
20psi ~ 7

RPMwot Map Screen 17

5000 ~ 05
5500 ~ 08
6000 ~ 08
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 11
7500 ~ 11
8000 ~ 11
9000 ~ 12

The rest are zero

RPMcrs Screen 18

1000 ~ -12
1500 ~ -11
2000 ~ -12

THe rest are zero



Pump Map
Screen 19

Pump2Start ~ 2000
Pump1Amt ~ 00
Pump1Pulse ~ 04
Pump1Trig ~ 18
Pump1Stop ~ 00
Pump1Adv ~ 05

Pump2Time ~ 10
Pump2Amt ~ 30
Pump2Trig ~ 16
Pump2Stop ~ 00
Pump2Adv ~ 05

PumpDwell ~ 3.00
PumpTimers ~ No
Pump1Sync ~ No
PumpSpare ~ 00
PumpCold ~ 00

Water Map
Screen 20

-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 70
-9 ~ 60
-01 ~ 50
05 ~ 45
11 ~ 45
18 ~ 42
24 ~ 34
31 ~ 26
38 ~ 24
46 ~ 19
60 ~ 12
68 ~ 06
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

Air_t Map
Screen 21

-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 8
-9 ~ 6
-1 ~ 5
5 ~ 4
11 ~ 3
18 ~ 3
24 ~ 0
31 ~ 0
38 ~ 0
46 ~ 0
60 ~ 0
68 ~ 0
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

Crank Map
Screen 22

-25 ~ 72
-17 ~ 72
-9 ~ 72
-1 ~ 67
5 ~ 62
11 ~ 57
18 ~ 50
24 ~ 41
31 ~ 31
38 ~ 26
46 ~ 20
60 ~ 15
68 ~ 5
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

t*rpm
Screen 23

Idle ~ 00
1000 ~ 10
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 20
2500 ~ 25
3000 ~ 25
3500 ~ 25
4000 ~ 25
4500 ~ 25
5000 ~ 25
5500 ~ 25
6000 ~ 25
6500 ~ 25
7000 ~ 25
7500 ~ ??
8000 ~ 25
9000 ~ 25

t*map Map
Screen 24

Idle ~ 00
25 ~ 05
20 ~ 04
15 ~ 03
10 ~ 02
05 ~ 00
00 ~ 00
2psi ~ 00
4psi ~ 00
6psi ~ 02
8psi ~ -04
10psi ~ -06
14psi ~ -10
16psi ~ -12
18 psi ~ -16
20 psi ~ -20

t*air Screen 25
Correction value Is expressed as number of degrees you wish to advance or Retard to the Ignition curve and values Is set at zero.

t*gap
Screen 26

0500 ~ 15
1000 ~ 15
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 14
2500 ~ 12
3000 ~ 10
3500 ~ 10
4000 ~ 10
4500 ~ 10
5000 ~ 10
5500 ~ 10
6000 ~ 10
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 10
8000 ~ 10

t*Inj Map
Screen 27

0500 ~ 120
1000 ~ 150
1500 ~ 150
2000 ~ 150
2500 ~ 150
3000 ~ 150
3500 ~ 150
4000 ~ 150
4500 ~ 180
5000 ~ 210
5500 ~ 210
6000 ~ 240
6500 ~ 240
7000 ~ 270
8000 ~ 270
9000 ~ 270

t*wat Map Screen 28


ANd the rest are zero

Option Map
Screen 30

Af_StE ~ 10
Dwell ~ 3.25 *set at Time Base - not at Duty Cycle*
REVstg ~ 1320
MAPstg ~ 02"
%stg ~ 50


If it starts and dosnt want to idle.

Put +10 in the opt_mixtrm

And work your way from their.


there you go.

Thats from rx72c on the forum, not me, so he'd be the one to thank.

BLACK MAMBA

iTrader: (58)

thanks i will try that in the morning

BLACK MAMBA

iTrader: (58)

ok, i tried the maps the maps and now it wont even start, before the car strted it just was running to rich, i have a lt10s with the 4 bar aand 12000 rpm option, and here are my maps

Idle Map
scren 1

30hg~1.19
24hg~1.29
16hg~1.90
8hg~ 2.00
0hg~ 2.95
2psi~ 3.95
6psi~ 3.95
9psi~ 3.95
13psi~3.95
17psi~3.95
21psi~3.95
25psi~3.95
29psi~3.95
33psi~3.95
37psi~3.95
41psi~3.95


Load Maps
Screen 8

30hg~1.62
24hg~1.62
16hg~1.90
8hg ~ 2.24
0hg ~2.86
2Psi~ 2.86
6psi~4.81
9psi~5.24
13psi~6.33
17psi~6.86
21psi~7.52
25psi~8.33
29psi~8.33
33psi~8.33
37psi~8.33
41psi~8.33

RPM wot
Screen 17

500 ~ 0
1000 ~0
1500~ 0
2000~ 0
2500~ 0
3000~ 0
3500~ 0
4000~ 0
5000~ 0
6000~ 0
7000~ 0
8000~ 0
9000~ 0
10000~0
11000~0
12000~0

RPM crs
Screen18
same as RPM wot all 0


Pump Map
Screen 19

Pump 1 amt +10%
Pump 1 Pulse + 2%
Pump 1 Trigger + 14%
Pump 1 stop 02 psi
Pump 1 adv + 05
Pump 2 start 2000
pumpo 2 amt + 30%
pump 2 Time + 10%
Pump 2 Trigger + 16%
Pump 2 stop 2 psi
Pump 2 adv +05
Pump Dwell 4.00


Water Temp
Screen 20

-25c ~ 0
-17c ~ 70
-9 c ~ 60
-1 c ~ 58
5 c ~ 54
11 c ~ 50
18c ~ 45
24c ~ 35
31c ~ 30
38c ~ 20
46c ~ 15
60c ~ 12
68c ~ 08
82c ~ 00
99c ~ 00
124c~ 00

Air Temp
Screen 21

-25c ~ 0
-17 c~ 8
-09 c~ 7
-01 c~ 5
+5c ~ 3
+11c~ 2
+18c~ 1
+24c~ 0
+31c~ 0
+38c~ 0
+46c~ 0
+60c~ 0
+68c~ 0
+82c~ 0
+99c~ 0
124c~ 0


Crank Map
Screen 22

-25 ~ 85
-17 ~ 80
-09 ~ 80
-01 ~ 75
05 ~ 70
11 ~ 65
18 ~ 60
24 ~ 49
31 ~ 38
38 ~ 30
46 ~ 20
60 ~ 15
68 ~ 05
82 ~ 00
99 ~ 00
124~ 00


T RPM
Screen 23

500 + 05
1000 + 10
1500 +15
2000 +20
2500 +25
3000 +25
4000 +25
5000 +25
6000 +25
7000 +25
8000 +25
9000 +25
10000 +25
11000 +25
12000 +25


T Map Idle
Screen 24

30hg +05
24hg +05
16hg +04
08hg +03
00hg +02
2psi +00
6psi +00
9psi +00
13psi +00
17psi -01
21psi -02
25psi -03
29psi -04
33psi -05
37psi -06
41psi -08


T Air
Screen 25

are all 0


T Gap

500 ~ 15
1000 ~ 15
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 14
2500 ~ 12
3000 ~ 10
3500 ~ 10
4000 ~ 10
5000 ~ 10
6000 thru 12000 ~ 10


T Inj
Screen 27

500 ~ 120
1000 ~ 150
1500 ~ 150
2000 ~ 150
2500 ~ 150
3000 ~ 150
3500 ~ 150
4000 ~ 150
4500 ~ 180
5000 ~180
6000 ~180
7000 ~210
8000 ~240
9000 ~ 270
10000~ 270
11000~ 270
12000~ 270


Option Map
screen 30

Opt Mix Trim ~ +10%
Opt TPS Cal ~ +27%
Opt Tim Trim ~ -11%
Opt Tim Max ~ +30 %
Opt RPM Wot~ 02 psi
Opt AF_STe ~ +10%
Opt Rev Stg ~ 3000
Opt Map Stg ~ 02 psi
% stg ~ 50%
Dwell 3.25


Like i said earlier the car started with original maps, but whe trying to adjust car wont start, is there a way to reset the ecu to the original maps that where loaded or can anyone help.

Thanks

RotaryEvolution

iTrader: (30)

you have to manually input the maps unless you have them stored in the dongle. i don't think they still to this day store the maps in the dongle they send with the ECU to you so you will have to look at the sticky post and manually reset all the figures.

BLACK MAMBA

iTrader: (58)

the problem is that i forgot to save the original setup before i started making changes, i will try and get new spark plugs tomorrow since the look black , even when they are only 2 days old,

BLACK MAMBA

iTrader: (58)

well i got the car statred again with new set of plugs, but running still rich at 10.0 afr at idle.

RotaryEvolution

iTrader: (30)

then scale back the idle and 1k maps in the 20/15/10"hg ranges. do about 3 clicks on each at a time until you get it in the 13.5-16AFR range where it idles smooth but doesn't start to hunt before dying out due to being too lean.

hondahater

iTrader: (2)

I'm surprised your car didn't start with that map. That's my exact setup down to the hotside size.

RotaryEvolution

iTrader: (30)

the numbers he gave look a bit fat, like he has a low fuel pressure issue.

rx72c

iTrader: (8)

I have used that map on that injector combo 100's of times. never an issue. It sounds like your fuel pressure is too high.

set it on 40psi with the car off.

BLACK MAMBA

iTrader: (58)

the fuel pressure it is a 35 with the car off. had to go buy another set off spark plugs again, this is my 3rd set in a week, i will try your maps again since i found that the posite wire that i was using to jump the msd coils was not supplying power to the next 2 coils so i was pretty much running on the leading plugs, anyways thanks everyone for your help, and also where is the best place to get the vacumn from i have a jaytech intake and throttle body adapter and i tap in the intake in the rear secondaries intake runner, i will post pic

BLACK MAMBA

iTrader: (58)

also im only running 2 850 and 2 1600 the other injectors are dummies not connected.

BLACK MAMBA

iTrader: (58)

still working on this rough tune, i have it where it idles at 1200- 1300 without shutting off, it revs and it sound good while at idle, but when put in gears and take off the car starts to choke and shuts off, any clues. it seems that when i get it to run the car if i keep it over 0hg it runs but when vacumn drops below 0hg its start to choke.

rx72c

iTrader: (8)

How is your alternator voltage? at 14v solid?

You need to get a afr meter and clean it up as obviously your injectors are flowing differently to most.

BLACK MAMBA

iTrader: (58)

voltage is at over 14 v close to 15, im installing a lc wideband this weekend, and will see where im at.

thanks