need map for 850cc and 1600cc
just finish installing my microtech to my rebuilt motor, im using 850cc for primaries and 1600 for secondaries, with a t-70 turbo ar .96, and full port with high compresion rotors, the car starts and idles at around 1600 rpm but is running to rich all you see is the smoke and the smell of fuel, can any one help me adjusting the maps.
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check out my thead a little further down the page. Should be good for a rough tune.
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Idle Map
Screen 1 30" ~ 1.38 25" ~ 1.48 20" ~ 1.33 15" ~ 1.71 10" ~ 1.71 05" ~ 1.62 00" ~ 2.00 2-20psi ~ 4.95 Load Map Screen 3 30" ~ 0.95 25" ~ 1.19 20" ~ 1.33 15" ~ 1.71 10" ~ 2.14 05" ~ 2.57 00" ~ 2.86 2psi ~ 2.2 4psi ~ 3.2 6psi ~ 3.8 8psi ~ 4.4 10psi ~ 4.9 14psi ~ 5.5 16psi ~ 5.9 18psi ~ 6.5 20psi ~ 7 RPMwot Map Screen 17 5000 ~ 05 5500 ~ 08 6000 ~ 08 6500 ~ 10 7000 ~ 11 7500 ~ 11 8000 ~ 11 9000 ~ 12 The rest are zero RPMcrs Screen 18 1000 ~ -12 1500 ~ -11 2000 ~ -12 THe rest are zero Pump Map Screen 19 Pump2Start ~ 2000 Pump1Amt ~ 00 Pump1Pulse ~ 04 Pump1Trig ~ 18 Pump1Stop ~ 00 Pump1Adv ~ 05 Pump2Time ~ 10 Pump2Amt ~ 30 Pump2Trig ~ 16 Pump2Stop ~ 00 Pump2Adv ~ 05 PumpDwell ~ 3.00 PumpTimers ~ No Pump1Sync ~ No PumpSpare ~ 00 PumpCold ~ 00 Water Map Screen 20 -25 ~ 0 -17 ~ 70 -9 ~ 60 -01 ~ 50 05 ~ 45 11 ~ 45 18 ~ 42 24 ~ 34 31 ~ 26 38 ~ 24 46 ~ 19 60 ~ 12 68 ~ 06 82 ~ 0 99 ~ 0 124 ~ 0 Air_t Map Screen 21 -25 ~ 0 -17 ~ 8 -9 ~ 6 -1 ~ 5 5 ~ 4 11 ~ 3 18 ~ 3 24 ~ 0 31 ~ 0 38 ~ 0 46 ~ 0 60 ~ 0 68 ~ 0 82 ~ 0 99 ~ 0 124 ~ 0 Crank Map Screen 22 -25 ~ 72 -17 ~ 72 -9 ~ 72 -1 ~ 67 5 ~ 62 11 ~ 57 18 ~ 50 24 ~ 41 31 ~ 31 38 ~ 26 46 ~ 20 60 ~ 15 68 ~ 5 82 ~ 0 99 ~ 0 124 ~ 0 t*rpm Screen 23 Idle ~ 00 1000 ~ 10 1500 ~ 15 2000 ~ 20 2500 ~ 25 3000 ~ 25 3500 ~ 25 4000 ~ 25 4500 ~ 25 5000 ~ 25 5500 ~ 25 6000 ~ 25 6500 ~ 25 7000 ~ 25 7500 ~ ?? 8000 ~ 25 9000 ~ 25 t*map Map Screen 24 Idle ~ 00 25 ~ 05 20 ~ 04 15 ~ 03 10 ~ 02 05 ~ 00 00 ~ 00 2psi ~ 00 4psi ~ 00 6psi ~ 02 8psi ~ -04 10psi ~ -06 14psi ~ -10 16psi ~ -12 18 psi ~ -16 20 psi ~ -20 t*air Screen 25 Correction value Is expressed as number of degrees you wish to advance or Retard to the Ignition curve and values Is set at zero. t*gap Screen 26 0500 ~ 15 1000 ~ 15 1500 ~ 15 2000 ~ 14 2500 ~ 12 3000 ~ 10 3500 ~ 10 4000 ~ 10 4500 ~ 10 5000 ~ 10 5500 ~ 10 6000 ~ 10 6500 ~ 10 7000 ~ 10 8000 ~ 10 t*Inj Map Screen 27 0500 ~ 120 1000 ~ 150 1500 ~ 150 2000 ~ 150 2500 ~ 150 3000 ~ 150 3500 ~ 150 4000 ~ 150 4500 ~ 180 5000 ~ 210 5500 ~ 210 6000 ~ 240 6500 ~ 240 7000 ~ 270 8000 ~ 270 9000 ~ 270 t*wat Map Screen 28 ANd the rest are zero Option Map Screen 30 Af_StE ~ 10 Dwell ~ 3.25 *set at Time Base - not at Duty Cycle* REVstg ~ 1320 MAPstg ~ 02" %stg ~ 50 If it starts and dosnt want to idle. Put +10 in the opt_mixtrm And work your way from their. there you go. Thats from rx72c on the forum, not me, so he'd be the one to thank. |
thanks i will try that in the morning
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ok, i tried the maps the maps and now it wont even start, before the car strted it just was running to rich, i have a lt10s with the 4 bar aand 12000 rpm option, and here are my maps
Idle Map scren 1 30hg~1.19 24hg~1.29 16hg~1.90 8hg~ 2.00 0hg~ 2.95 2psi~ 3.95 6psi~ 3.95 9psi~ 3.95 13psi~3.95 17psi~3.95 21psi~3.95 25psi~3.95 29psi~3.95 33psi~3.95 37psi~3.95 41psi~3.95 Load Maps Screen 8 30hg~1.62 24hg~1.62 16hg~1.90 8hg ~ 2.24 0hg ~2.86 2Psi~ 2.86 6psi~4.81 9psi~5.24 13psi~6.33 17psi~6.86 21psi~7.52 25psi~8.33 29psi~8.33 33psi~8.33 37psi~8.33 41psi~8.33 RPM wot Screen 17 500 ~ 0 1000 ~0 1500~ 0 2000~ 0 2500~ 0 3000~ 0 3500~ 0 4000~ 0 5000~ 0 6000~ 0 7000~ 0 8000~ 0 9000~ 0 10000~0 11000~0 12000~0 RPM crs Screen18 same as RPM wot all 0 Pump Map Screen 19 Pump 1 amt +10% Pump 1 Pulse + 2% Pump 1 Trigger + 14% Pump 1 stop 02 psi Pump 1 adv + 05 Pump 2 start 2000 pumpo 2 amt + 30% pump 2 Time + 10% Pump 2 Trigger + 16% Pump 2 stop 2 psi Pump 2 adv +05 Pump Dwell 4.00 Water Temp Screen 20 -25c ~ 0 -17c ~ 70 -9 c ~ 60 -1 c ~ 58 5 c ~ 54 11 c ~ 50 18c ~ 45 24c ~ 35 31c ~ 30 38c ~ 20 46c ~ 15 60c ~ 12 68c ~ 08 82c ~ 00 99c ~ 00 124c~ 00 Air Temp Screen 21 -25c ~ 0 -17 c~ 8 -09 c~ 7 -01 c~ 5 +5c ~ 3 +11c~ 2 +18c~ 1 +24c~ 0 +31c~ 0 +38c~ 0 +46c~ 0 +60c~ 0 +68c~ 0 +82c~ 0 +99c~ 0 124c~ 0 Crank Map Screen 22 -25 ~ 85 -17 ~ 80 -09 ~ 80 -01 ~ 75 05 ~ 70 11 ~ 65 18 ~ 60 24 ~ 49 31 ~ 38 38 ~ 30 46 ~ 20 60 ~ 15 68 ~ 05 82 ~ 00 99 ~ 00 124~ 00 T RPM Screen 23 500 + 05 1000 + 10 1500 +15 2000 +20 2500 +25 3000 +25 4000 +25 5000 +25 6000 +25 7000 +25 8000 +25 9000 +25 10000 +25 11000 +25 12000 +25 T Map Idle Screen 24 30hg +05 24hg +05 16hg +04 08hg +03 00hg +02 2psi +00 6psi +00 9psi +00 13psi +00 17psi -01 21psi -02 25psi -03 29psi -04 33psi -05 37psi -06 41psi -08 T Air Screen 25 are all 0 T Gap 500 ~ 15 1000 ~ 15 1500 ~ 15 2000 ~ 14 2500 ~ 12 3000 ~ 10 3500 ~ 10 4000 ~ 10 5000 ~ 10 6000 thru 12000 ~ 10 T Inj Screen 27 500 ~ 120 1000 ~ 150 1500 ~ 150 2000 ~ 150 2500 ~ 150 3000 ~ 150 3500 ~ 150 4000 ~ 150 4500 ~ 180 5000 ~180 6000 ~180 7000 ~210 8000 ~240 9000 ~ 270 10000~ 270 11000~ 270 12000~ 270 Option Map screen 30 Opt Mix Trim ~ +10% Opt TPS Cal ~ +27% Opt Tim Trim ~ -11% Opt Tim Max ~ +30 % Opt RPM Wot~ 02 psi Opt AF_STe ~ +10% Opt Rev Stg ~ 3000 Opt Map Stg ~ 02 psi % stg ~ 50% Dwell 3.25 Like i said earlier the car started with original maps, but whe trying to adjust car wont start, is there a way to reset the ecu to the original maps that where loaded or can anyone help. Thanks |
you have to manually input the maps unless you have them stored in the dongle. i don't think they still to this day store the maps in the dongle they send with the ECU to you so you will have to look at the sticky post and manually reset all the figures.
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the problem is that i forgot to save the original setup before i started making changes, i will try and get new spark plugs tomorrow since the look black , even when they are only 2 days old,
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well i got the car statred again with new set of plugs, but running still rich at 10.0 afr at idle.
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then scale back the idle and 1k maps in the 20/15/10"hg ranges. do about 3 clicks on each at a time until you get it in the 13.5-16AFR range where it idles smooth but doesn't start to hunt before dying out due to being too lean.
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I'm surprised your car didn't start with that map. That's my exact setup down to the hotside size.
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the numbers he gave look a bit fat, like he has a low fuel pressure issue.
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I have used that map on that injector combo 100's of times. never an issue. It sounds like your fuel pressure is too high.
set it on 40psi with the car off. |
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the fuel pressure it is a 35 with the car off. had to go buy another set off spark plugs again, this is my 3rd set in a week, i will try your maps again since i found that the posite wire that i was using to jump the msd coils was not supplying power to the next 2 coils so i was pretty much running on the leading plugs, anyways thanks everyone for your help, and also where is the best place to get the vacumn from i have a jaytech intake and throttle body adapter and i tap in the intake in the rear secondaries intake runner, i will post pic
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also im only running 2 850 and 2 1600 the other injectors are dummies not connected.
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still working on this rough tune, i have it where it idles at 1200- 1300 without shutting off, it revs and it sound good while at idle, but when put in gears and take off the car starts to choke and shuts off, any clues. it seems that when i get it to run the car if i keep it over 0hg it runs but when vacumn drops below 0hg its start to choke.
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How is your alternator voltage? at 14v solid?
You need to get a afr meter and clean it up as obviously your injectors are flowing differently to most. |
voltage is at over 14 v close to 15, im installing a lc wideband this weekend, and will see where im at.
thanks |
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