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Old 06-14-07, 08:47 PM
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My RX-7 got hit-and-run: the final chapter!

Ok guys, here's the final update so everyone can have their damn closure. Here's the original thread for anyone that hasn't read it: https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=536097

After finding the truck sitting in the parking garage, I was freaked out. I didn't really think my suspicion was going to pan out, but the evidence was sitting right in front of me.

My friend couldn't believe it either. There were so many things I wanted to do to his truck at that moment - I wanted to bash in every window with my fist. I wanted to pour brake fluid over the entire car. I wanted to loosen all of his lugnuts - I was laughing over the hilarious mental image of him driving off and all 4 of his wheels falling off simultaneously.

But I knew I couldn't do any of that. It had been a very long night and I knew anything I did now would just complicate things down the line, so I went home and rolled around in bed while I tried to fall asleep; my mind was still racing a million miles a minute.

The next morning when I woke up, I was greeted by a few PMs on the forums. Some mystery man that worked for a repossession company had taken the liberty of running the guys license plates. He sent me all of his personal information, including his home address back in Houston and all of his phone numbers.

I decided to lay low and start building evidence against him. I didn't try to contact him or my ex-friend down the hall - I acted completely stupid and hopeless like I had no clue about anything. My ******* ex-friend down the hall was very persistent in asking me what was going on with the police investigation. I acted very disheartened and disappointed and told him they wern't really doing anything to help and that I still had no idea who it might have been.

Every night for the next week, I went to his parking garage to start gathering evidence. On the fourth night, I struck pure gold - for some reason, he decided to put the trailer hitch back on. I guess because the police hadn't contacted him yet and because I kept acting dumb to his middle man (ex-friend down the hall) he assumed he was in the clear. Haha, big ******* mistake!




Boy, that pattern sure looks familiar...




Excited as hell, I continued to play stupid and disheartened to my ex-friend whenever he would try to squeeze information out of me. After compiling a bunch of the evidence (photographs, sequence of events, etc.) I called the officer handling my case and requested a meeting with him. We sat down together the next day and I presented him with all of the information I had collected over the past week. He was very impressed with the amount of detective work I had done and assured me he would follow up on everything.

Well after not hearing anything for the next two weeks, I called the officer handling my case again. He told me that he had tried calling the guy with the truck at least 4 times, and he showed up 3 times at his apartment with no answer (big surprise). He said that because he couldn't get in touch with the suspect for questioning, the case was now 'inactive' since nothing further could be done.

I was ******* furious, and he definitely knew it. I told him that was ******* ridiculous and that I wanted to see the Sergeant immediately. He hesitantly walked to the back office and retrieved an old, fat, sarcastic shell of a man in a blue uniform. I introduced myself and briefly explained my case and the situation, and he just kept saying 'uh-huh' and gave me this sarcastic '**** off' look the whole time I was talking. I wanted to punch him in the ******* face because he was making absolutely no effort to even pretend to be interested in what I was saying - the only thing he was interested in protecting and serving was the dick in his ***. The police 'investigation' was officially made 'inactive' because they couldn't reach the suspect for questioning (even though I provided them with his parents address back in Houston) and I realized I wasn't going to get anywhere - especially with this Sergeant overseeing everything.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not a cop-hater by any means. I have a lot of respect for the police and the fact that they put their lives in danger every day to protect other citizens, but at this point I was ******* infuriated. "So because this kid decides to avoid you by not picking up his phone or answer the door, you can't do anything more and I get fucked, is that basically what you're saying?". I grabbed all of my pictures, slammed my folder shut and kicked the chair back under the table and stormed out. "Have a nice day" the Sergeant said as I turned to leave. "**** off" I said with my back turned as I proceeded to walk out of the station.

The next day I decided to give the kid's Dad a call with the home phone number that I had gotten with the rest of his personal information. "Hello?" the voice on the other end of the line said. "Hello, may I ask who I'm speaking with?..."

"Hello." I replied. "Is this the father of Robby Blake?" I asked. The voice on the other end of the line suddenly got very quiet.

"Yes I am his father, may I ask who's calling?". I proceeded to introduce myself and explained that my car had recently become victim to a pretty serious case of vandalism. For the next 20 minutes, I explained that his son had done a considerable amount of damage to my car. I provided him with some basic information about the situation, but I didn't want to give away any of the critical secret evidence that I had been gathering.

He seemed rather confused and I don't think he was taking me completely serious yet. "Your son is facing a handful of state-jail felonies because of his actions, and I'm dead serious about that." I continued to explain how the police had been trying to get in touch with his son over the past week and that they were very serious about prosecuting him with the evidence I had gathered.

"Before I decide to pursue any further action with the police, how would you like to have a meeting to discuss all of this?" I proposed. He quickly agreed and we settled on a place in town for the following Saturday.

Saturday finally rolls around and I walk in the door of our agreed meeting place with my folder of evidence gripped firmly in my left hand. I spot his dad sitting down at a table by himself - great. I walk up to the table, extend my hand to greet his father, and purposely let the folder of pictures fall open on the table in front of him. "Oops," I said, "you wern't supposed to see that yet.."

I closed the folder and sat down across from him. After exchanging a few civilities, I started getting right down to business. I started going through the events of the entire night of the hit-and-run with him, providing him with pictures as I talked. "You'll probably want to see this before I go any further" and I handed him a complete copy of the police report.

The police officer handling my case had mistakenly wrote in all of the suspects personal information under 'Vehicle #2' in the accident report. When the police report was filled out, Vehicle #2 simply was the unknown car with unknown driver that hit my car. However after I provided him with pictures of the kids truck, his license plate number, and all of his personal contact information - he updated the report and mistakenly filled out all of that information under the 'Vehicle #2' section of the police report - making it look like the police KNEW he was the one that damaged my car.

"As you can see from this official copy of the police report, your son was undoubtedly the one who vandalized my vehicle." I continued to feed him pictures of his trailer hitch and the damage to my rear bumper - an exact match. I continued explaining my current plan of action - filing a civil lawsuit and pursuing criminal charges with the police investigation (which I conveniently failed to mention was now 'inactive'...).

My eyes widened as he reached into his back pocket. "Look," he said, "this was obviously a very bad decision on my son's part, and looking at this police report he was obviously the one at fault - I'll do whatever it takes to fix this situation so we can forget about it and move on with our respective lives."

He pulled out a checkbook and carefully laid it on the desk in front of him. "Well lets start by taking a look at these.." I said, sliding over the itemized repair bill from Dallas' most expensive bodyshop. "$3500 is what it cost me out of pocket to repair my car to satisfaction after your son vandalized my car."

20 minutes later, I shook his hand and stood up. I turned and walked out with a check for $5000 in my wallet. "Haha, sucker.." I said under my breath as I walked slowly towards my once-again beautiful FD sitting by itself in the parking lot, admiring the brand new authentic OEM '99-spec front bumper and turn lamps that his dad just paid for.

"Too bad insurance already paid for the whole thing, *******.." were the last words to escape my mouth before all the noise in the cabin was drowned out by the sound of my turbochargers spooling up as I hit full boost.

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Old 06-14-07, 08:56 PM
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thank god that thread's over!!! nice job on getting the check though. I woulda just killed him, but good job nonetheless!
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Old 06-14-07, 09:35 PM
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Victory! Congrats on your scam!
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Old 06-14-07, 10:10 PM
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im so glad to hear an ending to this.. Good job playing it cool!! and now you got 5k for whatever you want.. nice
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woo!!! part 4 part 4!
seriously, nice job, nice to know it all worked out
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Old 06-14-07, 11:10 PM
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Old 06-14-07, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mazdatim
Victory! Congrats on your scam!
scam? hardly. I say the guy deserved to get pwnt for what he did to his car and mostly for also avoiding responsibility. It's disappointing his father was the one to pay for it, hopefully he gave his idiot son a good old beating of some sort for it, but I seriously doubt he did. From the way he gave in to your demands so easily just to pay for his retarded kid's mistakes it sounds like he's done things like this before.

Glad you got this settled, but did you have to be a total dick about it? you got more than you needed, plus the guy could have canceled the check and might have been more inclined to do so after what you said to him.

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Old 06-14-07, 11:50 PM
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Nah, that's some shady ****. I wouldn't be online bragging about how you scammed (and you did) his father into giving you money for something that was already taken care of through insurance. Your beef was with your "friend" and his "friend"...not this guy's Dad. I just hope he's making his son pay him back. I might consider deleting this thread if I were you...you basically just admitted on a public forum that you lied and fraudulently received a large sum of money...you are potentially looking at serious time if anyone in law enforcement saw this and decided to turn you in. You've already provided pictures of your license plate, clear as day...
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Old 06-15-07, 12:12 AM
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ryan should erase it just like all of eric cheatham's bad topics.
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Better ending than the Sopranos.

However, I wouldn't have called the father a "sucker." He took complete responsibility for his son's actions, which is more than can be said of many other dads in similar situations. He deserves major props for his handling of the situation. "*******?" Come on, bro -- you're the one that double dipped. The most he should've given you is your insurance deductible.
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Old 06-15-07, 03:32 AM
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...that's some shady ****. I wouldn't be online bragging about how you scammed (and you did) his father into giving you money for something that was already taken care of through insurance. ...
plus one... shameful..
id leave this post be.. he dug his own hole.. let him get out of it on his own
sympathy towards the father.. he may have just given up money that was needed but instead paid for this scam...
start of a negative domino effect..
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Old 06-15-07, 05:33 AM
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You should try to sell stuff on line and use this is a "voucher" thread in your sig...

congrats on scaming what sounds to be a loving, caring father. Good timing too BTW... right before father's Day.
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Old 06-15-07, 07:50 AM
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I wouldn't look at it like it was an insurance scam. From what I read, insurance never came up in the discussion.

No matter what Wompa was thinking, from where I sit it looks like a father trying to keep his ******* son out of jail.

This was an "out of court settlement". It is done all the time. Attorneys get together and hammer out an agreement to avoid civil trial.

Monetary compensation to the victum is the norm.

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Monetary compensation to the victum is the norm.
Which is what he received...from his insurance. Again, to agree with amp, the absolute most that this guy might have been responsible, monitarily, would be the insurance deductible.

Besides...he lied blatantly:

$3500 is what it cost me out of pocket to repair my car to satisfaction after your son vandalized my car."
This would be a lie, if insurance paid for it. It makes it seem like the insurance paid nothing. However, the truth was that his insurance paid for the damage already, so this mysterious "$3500 out-of-pocket" expense is a complete fabrication, and THAT is what makes this whole thing fraudulent...maybe not insurance fraud, but fraud nonetheless.
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Old 06-15-07, 08:15 AM
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It wasn't a scam. I'd say he just did wha the had to, take justice into his own hands since the police were unable/unwilling to help.
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Originally Posted by Wompa164
....."Haha, sucker.." I said under my breath as I walked slowly towards my once-again beautiful FD sitting by itself in the parking lot, admiring the brand new authentic OEM '99-spec front bumper and turn lamps that his dad just paid for.

"Too bad insurance already paid for the whole thing, *******.." were the last words to escape my mouth before all the noise in the cabin was drowned out by the sound of my turbochargers spooling up as I hit full boost.
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I wouldn't look at it like it was an insurance scam. From what I read, insurance never came up in the discussion.

No matter what Wompa was thinking, from where I sit it looks like a father trying to keep his ******* son out of jail.

This was an "out of court settlement". It is done all the time. Attorneys get together and hammer out an agreement to avoid civil trial.

Monetary compensation to the victum is the norm.

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+1

However, I think I would have rather had the son pay from his pocket. You should have just had the son come too and invited the police. Eventhough you may feel content, I highly doubt(sp?) that the son learned any sort of lesson. Also keep and eye on your car incase he does it again.

Also, have you said anything to you ex-friend about this? He seams to have gotten off free and clear.

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Besides...he lied blatantly:


This would be a lie, if insurance paid for it. It makes it seem like the insurance paid nothing. However, the truth was that his insurance paid for the damage already, so this mysterious "$3500 out-of-pocket" expense is a complete fabrication, and THAT is what makes this whole thing fraudulent...maybe not insurance fraud, but fraud nonetheless.
+1

If you had not lied at all and said nothing about that you needed to pay for this yourself you would be fine. The only way you could be introble is if the father pressed charges for this. other wise you will not be charged for fraud. Also by him paying you he is in some since admitting to the accusations(sp?)

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It wasn't a scam. I'd say he just did wha the had to, take justice into his own hands since the police were unable/unwilling to help.
No, it WAS a scam. He lied to the guy's dad to get more money than he deserved. Complete scam. This wasn't about getting justice, this was about getting more money. You can tell that by the way he ended his "story". If it was "justice" he wanted, he would have talked to the guy himself, or confronted his "ex-friend", not gone around the actual people involved and suckered his father into paying him for expenses that he lied about.

In fact, not only was it a total scam, it's borderline blackmail. Using flawed documents to present a definite scenario of encarceration for his son in the hopes of extorting money from him

The police officer handling my case had mistakenly wrote in all of the suspects personal information under 'Vehicle #2' in the accident report. When the police report was filled out, Vehicle #2 simply was the unknown car with unknown driver that hit my car. However after I provided him with pictures of the kids truck, his license plate number, and all of his personal contact information - he updated the report and mistakenly filled out all of that information under the 'Vehicle #2' section of the police report - making it look like the police KNEW he was the one that damaged my car.
Which wasn't the case, and you knew it. They hadn't pinned the vandalism on him at all...they hadn't even talked to him. For all you know someone could have borrowed that guy's truck that night and hit your car completely on accident. You don't know, and more importantly the police don't know because they never got that side of the story. You knew that before presenting it to the guy's dad, and you made it look like the case against his son was closed and airtight, which it most certainly was not. Yup, fraud and blackmail...great example of the rotary community. You better hope someone doesn't start calling the Dallas PD...or pray that they already haven't..........

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i say that kid deserves it, his dad sheilded him, good for him. but the fact is he did something wrong, so he should pay for it. everyone should be responsible for their own acts. so different scenario, if i rape ur girlfriend, and i burn ur house, if the police can't find me, so im off the hook?

what bullshit. justice was served, and he deserves it. too bad his dad had to pay for him, but at least somone in charge knows when to beat the ***** out of his son now
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Wompa164, hey i'm glad that you can put this behind you know. I was sorta on your side until I read the part that your damages were already fixed and you walked out with a chq for $5000.

I dunno I'm Not suggesting what happened up to this point was right, and you weren't getting the shaft. But I have a hard time accepting your "victory = chq" and gloating that you got more than you deserved in this case. You knew the car was fixed, and perhaps had the option of taking the high road. Money is money but "scamming" the father outta some amount that's more than the cost of the repairs, really shouldn't be a point to brag about. y.

Well either way, sometimes we win some and sometimes we lose some. I am in no way passing judgment on you but you left your actions to be criticized by posting your story on the board. I for one don't agree with the "scam money" but that's just me. I'm glad you got your car fixed and well maybe the "*****" that hit your car deserves it. Once his dad gets a hold of him I'm sure, he'll be (plotting his revenge) jk.

I guess installing cameras in the parking area will be next ?
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I believe that he got what he deserved... anyone believe in emotional stress? I woulda wigged out and demolished the kids truck... so that the kid got off easy... the kid could have also gone to jail over his actions and had suprise butt-sex. His dad hopefully is making him pay back the money. The kid hopefully will learn responsibility, because his actions cost his dad 5k.
Next up another reason I believe the OP deserved 5k is the fact that he had to use insurance... he has a premium and now his policy shows a claim, which could make further compensation on another claim more difficult and costly, not to mention his insurace may go up at renewal time.
As I mentioned before emotionally something like this is very taxing and the amount of restraint he used was very much worth 5k... not just for the OP but also the trauma to the kids father if the kid had gone to jail, plus the record the kid would have follow him forever, and the fact that the kid didn't lose anything out of it. If it were me, I'd have completely made that kids life hell.... and his truck would have seriouse problems.
In conclusion the kid and his father got off easy. No gay butt-rapings, no burnt down damaged truck, no criminal record. The compensation out of court could have been MUCH more than 5k bucks.... hell something similar to this happened to my old roommates motorcycle and he settled out of court for a fixed bike plus 10k dollars for compensation.
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Originally Posted by Sprockett
Which is what he received...from his insurance. Again, to agree with amp, the absolute most that this guy might have been responsible, monitarily, would be the insurance deductible.

Besides...he lied blatantly:



This would be a lie, if insurance paid for it. It makes it seem like the insurance paid nothing. However, the truth was that his insurance paid for the damage already, so this mysterious "$3500 out-of-pocket" expense is a complete fabrication, and THAT is what makes this whole thing fraudulent...maybe not insurance fraud, but fraud nonetheless.
Sprockett,

Point taken. I agree with you.

Upon further review it seems to me that once Wompa had all the info, he should have called in his insurance company and gotten them to go after the son's insurance company to settle up and get Wompa's car repaired.

I stand corrected.

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Congrats on finally serving up some justice Wompa. I for one do not disagree at all with what you did.. It sucks that the kids dad had to pay for it, but now that i think about it, if the father is gonna get his asshat son off the hook for something as blatant as such, then maybe the father deserves to go broke for not letting his son learn his lesson like a ******* adult.

IMO 5k is defnitely not too much to be paid for an out of court settlement. If only the deductable or just the damage costs are paid then what is the punishment? The reason the father is paying extra cash is so he doesnt get sued and his son does not get jail time. So the 5k is well justified.

Now the only thing i definitely would have done different is the altering of the plice reports.... This is a felony a believe? But otherwise congrats and if you are gonna spend it all in one place .... make sure its on the FD
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I think if you guys were in the exact same situation as Wompa you might have handled things the way he did.

Everyone asked for an ending to the story, and Wompa gave us the ending. Please stop with the scam or not issue...
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