My RX-7 got hit-and-run: the final chapter!
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My eyes widened as he reached into his back pocket. "Look," he said, "this was obviously a very bad decision on my son's part, and looking at this police report he was obviously the one at fault - I'll do whatever it takes to fix this situation so we can forget about it and move on with our respective lives."
He pulled out a checkbook and carefully laid it on the desk in front of him. "Well lets start by taking a look at these.." I said, sliding over the itemized repair bill from Dallas' most expensive bodyshop. "$3500 is what it cost me out of pocket to repair my car to satisfaction after your son vandalized my car."
20 minutes later, I shook his hand and stood up. I turned and walked out with a check for $5000 in my wallet. "Haha, sucker.." I said under my breath as I walked slowly towards my once-again beautiful FD sitting by itself in the parking lot, admiring the brand new authentic OEM '99-spec front bumper and turn lamps that his dad just paid for.
"Too bad insurance already paid for the whole thing, *******.." were the last words to escape my mouth before all the noise in the cabin was drowned out by the sound of my turbochargers spooling up as I hit full boost.
******* awesome dude I'm so gald this turned out good for you...I remember way back when you first posted this and I was pissed for you lol. So no that you have 5k, what are your plans ????
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I wouldnt exactly call it a "scam". I mean the guys father probably knows it doesnt cost 5grand to fix a couple bumpers and repaint a ****** car. He was buying a get out of jail free card. And to all who dont like how this turned out, consider the other possiblities. You could have a dead guy and a trashed truck lol.
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Wow. It sounds like the poster is one step away from sending mass emails that says he is the ambassador of Mongolia and he needs $20,000 to collect his father's inheritence...
He lied to the father to take his money...= Scam
He lied to the father to take his money...= Scam
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All you "scam" crybabies crack me up. If you were in the same situation what would you do?
Most people would have fucked up that kids truck somethin nasty and not even bothered with the police
Did the OP do that? no
Then after the police did nothing to help, a lot of people would have gone and fucked up the truck then
Did the OP do that ? no
Most people wouldn't have gone through the trouble of doing the police's job for them. and then dropping an essentially open/shut case at their feet.
But the OP did that.
If his goal was to scam the father and get money would he have gone to the police first?
The OP deserves his 5,000.
As stated before, there was still a deductible to pay, plus his rates will more than likely increase. He showed saintlike restraint in not bashing the kid, or his truck. He showed zen-like patience in dealing w/ the incompetent police, and even did their work for them, (for which he should be compensated for the number of hours worked at a detectives pay grade) And he only went to the father as a last resort. He took the 5k because thats what was offered, if the guy had offered less I doubt he would have turned it down or asked for more.
The father/kid got off easy for 5,000
How much would it have cost to repair the damage that the avg. 7 owner would have done to that truck? How much would attorney's fees cost had they been slapped w/ a civil suit? How much would they have had to pay after they lost said civil suit? (which could easily have been more than 5k by itself) What is the value of all the time not lost sitting in court, or lawyer's offices preparing for trial? What is the value of the emotional distress the kids family was able to avoid by not having this issue looming over their heads?
If the kids father could just meet up and cut a check for 5 grand, I'm sure he'll be quite alright financially. Plus if he's the kind of guy that would bail his son out like that, he's the kind of guy that would have paid for his lawyer and the settlement had it gone to trial. So all the OP did was speed up the payout, the money would have been coming from the same pocket. It just would have taken longer.
So for $5000 everybody wins and they issue doesn't get dragged out for another year or two.
Most people would have fucked up that kids truck somethin nasty and not even bothered with the police
Did the OP do that? no
Then after the police did nothing to help, a lot of people would have gone and fucked up the truck then
Did the OP do that ? no
Most people wouldn't have gone through the trouble of doing the police's job for them. and then dropping an essentially open/shut case at their feet.
But the OP did that.
If his goal was to scam the father and get money would he have gone to the police first?
The OP deserves his 5,000.
As stated before, there was still a deductible to pay, plus his rates will more than likely increase. He showed saintlike restraint in not bashing the kid, or his truck. He showed zen-like patience in dealing w/ the incompetent police, and even did their work for them, (for which he should be compensated for the number of hours worked at a detectives pay grade) And he only went to the father as a last resort. He took the 5k because thats what was offered, if the guy had offered less I doubt he would have turned it down or asked for more.
The father/kid got off easy for 5,000
How much would it have cost to repair the damage that the avg. 7 owner would have done to that truck? How much would attorney's fees cost had they been slapped w/ a civil suit? How much would they have had to pay after they lost said civil suit? (which could easily have been more than 5k by itself) What is the value of all the time not lost sitting in court, or lawyer's offices preparing for trial? What is the value of the emotional distress the kids family was able to avoid by not having this issue looming over their heads?
If the kids father could just meet up and cut a check for 5 grand, I'm sure he'll be quite alright financially. Plus if he's the kind of guy that would bail his son out like that, he's the kind of guy that would have paid for his lawyer and the settlement had it gone to trial. So all the OP did was speed up the payout, the money would have been coming from the same pocket. It just would have taken longer.
So for $5000 everybody wins and they issue doesn't get dragged out for another year or two.
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You can justify it any way you like but it's still wrong. We have laws for a reason and it's people like you and the poster that think scamming is ok that cause police departments to be overwhelmed. They probably could have helped the poster but they were to busy trying to track down some other scammer. You perpetuate the problem.
Here is an example of your logic: Gas prices went up to $3.30 where I live. I can't afford to drive a hybrid so I shouldn't have to pay that much for gas. Well, I guess it's ok for me to go around and siphon gas out of the gas station owner's cars because they charge so much and they can afford to lose. Oh, and while I'm at it, I should vandalize the gas station because they're trying to screw me.
Go take your ridiculas ideas somewhere else and quit trying to corrupt law abiding citizens. You probably have 12 posts about how you like to race wrx's down the highway. But you do it at night so it's ok. You are a child.
Here is an example of your logic: Gas prices went up to $3.30 where I live. I can't afford to drive a hybrid so I shouldn't have to pay that much for gas. Well, I guess it's ok for me to go around and siphon gas out of the gas station owner's cars because they charge so much and they can afford to lose. Oh, and while I'm at it, I should vandalize the gas station because they're trying to screw me.
Go take your ridiculas ideas somewhere else and quit trying to corrupt law abiding citizens. You probably have 12 posts about how you like to race wrx's down the highway. But you do it at night so it's ok. You are a child.
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A law is only as good as the system that enforces it.
You're grasp of analogy is weak at best. There is nothing similar about a business owner raising the price of a commodity to cope w/ an increase in wholesale cost and a wanton act of vandalism in which the perpetrator flees the seen.
And if my single post is able to "corrupt a law abiding citizen" then they probably weren't a goody two shoes to begin with. Who are you anyways? Captain America?
Must be, since you never break any laws I guess we're supposed to believe that you never speed, j-walk, roll through a stop sign, ride w/o a seatbelt, talk on a cell phone, tailgate, fail to signal, or put on makeup while driving?
If you say you don't you're a liar, and if you say you do then you're a hypocrite.
So how bout you take your......moral superiority complex and go somewhere.
You're grasp of analogy is weak at best. There is nothing similar about a business owner raising the price of a commodity to cope w/ an increase in wholesale cost and a wanton act of vandalism in which the perpetrator flees the seen.
And if my single post is able to "corrupt a law abiding citizen" then they probably weren't a goody two shoes to begin with. Who are you anyways? Captain America?
Must be, since you never break any laws I guess we're supposed to believe that you never speed, j-walk, roll through a stop sign, ride w/o a seatbelt, talk on a cell phone, tailgate, fail to signal, or put on makeup while driving?
If you say you don't you're a liar, and if you say you do then you're a hypocrite.
So how bout you take your......moral superiority complex and go somewhere.
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A gas station owner has in much in common with a "wanton act of vandalism in which the perpetrator flees the seen" as the father of the perpetrator. Neither of them have anything to do this which is why the analogy applies.
I can tell you I have never lied to an individual to get him to pay me $5,000 for something he has nothing to do with. Actually, I haven't lied to anyone to take their money. I try to live by something called, "integrity". And I certianly don't give people a thumbs up for screwing an old man.
I've complained on this thread enough and I'm finished with it. I understand your perspective Sharingan 19, I simply disagree with it.
I can tell you I have never lied to an individual to get him to pay me $5,000 for something he has nothing to do with. Actually, I haven't lied to anyone to take their money. I try to live by something called, "integrity". And I certianly don't give people a thumbs up for screwing an old man.
I've complained on this thread enough and I'm finished with it. I understand your perspective Sharingan 19, I simply disagree with it.
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A law is only as good as the system that enforces it.
You're grasp of analogy is weak at best. There is nothing similar about a business owner raising the price of a commodity to cope w/ an increase in wholesale cost and a wanton act of vandalism in which the perpetrator flees the seen.
And if my single post is able to "corrupt a law abiding citizen" then they probably weren't a goody two shoes to begin with. Who are you anyways? Captain America?
Must be, since you never break any laws I guess we're supposed to believe that you never speed, j-walk, roll through a stop sign, ride w/o a seatbelt, talk on a cell phone, tailgate, fail to signal, or put on makeup while driving?
If you say you don't you're a liar, and if you say you do then you're a hypocrite.
So how bout you take your......moral superiority complex and go somewhere.
You're grasp of analogy is weak at best. There is nothing similar about a business owner raising the price of a commodity to cope w/ an increase in wholesale cost and a wanton act of vandalism in which the perpetrator flees the seen.
And if my single post is able to "corrupt a law abiding citizen" then they probably weren't a goody two shoes to begin with. Who are you anyways? Captain America?
Must be, since you never break any laws I guess we're supposed to believe that you never speed, j-walk, roll through a stop sign, ride w/o a seatbelt, talk on a cell phone, tailgate, fail to signal, or put on makeup while driving?
If you say you don't you're a liar, and if you say you do then you're a hypocrite.
So how bout you take your......moral superiority complex and go somewhere.
wow ******* OWNED.
dude, no offence,
rxtuner, you were owned with logic and spelling.
gogo sharingan 19 !!
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Try making a comparison of apples to apples, instead of stealing gas. Then go back and read my posts. The guys dad made right by paying off his sons debts and keeping him from being prosecuted by an insurance company (almost guaranteeing jail time) there is no laws against that.
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Its really very simple, you commited fraud and probably a number of other things. If you were taken to court over this, this is how it would look.
- The defendant made certain representations to the plaintiff, presenting them as facts;
- In so doing, the defendant intended the plaintiff to believe the representations;
- In so doing, the defendant intended the plaintiff to part with something of value;
- The representations made by the defendant were false;
- The defendant knew, at the time of making the representations, that they were false;
- The plaintiff, relying on those representations, parted with something of value;
- The plaintiff, in so relying, was acting reasonably;
- The plaintiff suffered damage as a result.
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Its really very simple, you commited fraud and probably a number of other things. If you were taken to court over this, this is how it would look.
- The defendant made certain representations to the plaintiff, presenting them as facts;
- In so doing, the defendant intended the plaintiff to believe the representations;
- In so doing, the defendant intended the plaintiff to part with something of value;
- The representations made by the defendant were false;
- The defendant knew, at the time of making the representations, that they were false;
- The plaintiff, relying on those representations, parted with something of value;
- The plaintiff, in so relying, was acting reasonably;
- The plaintiff suffered damage as a result.
No, re-read the posts. The father paid for his sons mistake and avoided his son being prosecuted by an insurance company. Isn't this thread done yet?
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I'm not entirely sure why you guys think he scammed him?
After the police were unable to help him he directly called the vandal's father to ask for assistance in tracking down his son to settle the debt. (Exactly who I would have called next)
The father meets him, looks at the evidence and the repair estimate and then the father decides to pay him $5,000 to settle the problem with his son. Scamming the father would have been "Hey man, its $5,000 right now or we will have problems."
Technically he did pay for the repairs out of pocket. Insurance company will now be raising his rates plus plus all of the insurance he has paid in the past. Insurance is bullshit anyways. Talk about a bullshit industry.
After the police were unable to help him he directly called the vandal's father to ask for assistance in tracking down his son to settle the debt. (Exactly who I would have called next)
The father meets him, looks at the evidence and the repair estimate and then the father decides to pay him $5,000 to settle the problem with his son. Scamming the father would have been "Hey man, its $5,000 right now or we will have problems."
Technically he did pay for the repairs out of pocket. Insurance company will now be raising his rates plus plus all of the insurance he has paid in the past. Insurance is bullshit anyways. Talk about a bullshit industry.
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No that would be a threat... not a scam. A scam would be collecting money from multiple sources who are unaware of each other to benefit yourself. I can't believe this thread is still around.