rx7henry

That’s bullshit and you know it. If bricks could be made to go so fast, then where are all the fast bricks with all that power to the wheels? Why aren't more people making their 4 or 5 thousand pound cars running 11's? Fast doesn't equate to cheap. So sick & tired of that damn ideology. It seems like that’s the only way to address other fast cars (or just Hondas) around here. Of course anything can be made to go fast....even the rx7. Power at the wheels can be had in a wheelchair too. I'm just glad they aren't applying all that power to the ground w/ their 6 speed gearboxes....

B6T

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I would have expected a 400hp RSX to lay a similar powered Z06 a beating because of the weight advantage. But the Z06 walked him every time! That's really nothing to brag about. If the K was out of it's "home", in a lighter car like an EK hatch, it would have walked the Z06 for sure!

B6T

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Adding to this... sure, a brick can be made fast. But the amount of power at the wheels is proportionate to the weight of the brick. So where one guy with a 2400lb RX-7 needs 325hp to run 11's, someone with a 6000lb brick needs 800hp. And in most cases, making 800hp IS NOT CHEAP!

Naegleria_Fowleri

^You also have to figure that the engineers behind the Z06 built it to handle 400 hp. The RSX engineers built it for 200 hp. Even doing a lot of the suspension mods you can do, you won't have a car that was built for that kind of power unless you add a lot of reinforcements yourself. It is like DirectFreak's FB, it weighs a touch over 3,000 lbs. How do you get an FB to weigh that much? Reinforcements (along with lots of add ons for camera placement and what have you).

I didn't watch the video because I could care less, honestly. The thought that came to my mind was Z06 was a car built for that kind of power, the RSX was not. The RSX could win or could lose, and either way it will have a lot more problems than the Vette with equal power.

rx7henry

I agree.
I don't know if it's front drives they hate, or just Hondas that are hated. If its front drive, then it's plausible, but then if there’s just hate on Hondas, why are people in the Lotuses, swapping in a k20 as their ultimate track setup? http://www.prototyperacing.com/k20kit.htm:
"Installation into the Lotus Elise/Exige chassis, the K20A fits better than the original Rover engine."
If it's rwd that’s such a must, the mr-s and exige/elise platforms are close to unstoppable at the tracks. This makes for a car that handles w/ the beauty of the MR platform, weighing in at barely 2000lbs, with an engine that outputs what it exerts under no lag from forced induction whatsoever. How much will it take for the 7 to come close?

rajahFD

I love my Civic because it's good on gas..

Montego

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do you mean that someone actually dropped $$ on a car and now it's fast! wow! what a concept... the things that people come up with these days

No_Rotor_RX7

some of you people haven't seen a fast brick then visit www.theturboforums.com

there are more 9 second and faster 4000+lb cars there then there are 11 second rx7's here

more weight = better power application AND can help on the highway.

i'll say this.. it's NOT just about power to weight. i have proven this on the highway many times hahaha

Rotary Noob

You obviously dont remember the mid sized cars of yesteryear. Im talking Pontiac GTO, Doge Charger, Chevy El Camino, Plymouth Roadmaster, Pontiac Catalina.

BIG cars. And people put BIG motors in them. A 440, a 454, a 455, or any other real BIG block in the day was a torque monster. If you set up the gearing, built the motor, and built the transmission, you could pull some good passes. Now, good is relative, since you would still be only going about 12s in the quarter. But now, tell me that those werent bricks.

Sometimes fast can be cheap. Ive been looking for an article I read a while back about a civic parts runner that was a beast. Try this, 487hp@7300rpm. Engine cost? 6k, and done.

Found the Article, it was by hot rod magazine. http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicl...onda_civic_si/

For the most part yes, I agree with you though, fast is expensive.

oo7arkman

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^^Impressive but it is just $6k for ONLY the motor. Then there is the SC and all suppourting components. Good thing most hondas like this are either straight drag cars or dyno queens. I wouldn't want to try and drive a FWD car with that much power on a track... what a nightmare....

I think that most ppl's problem with hondas are not the cars themselves, it is the superfly mad dope ppl that stick a new muffler on and then try and race everything in site... There are a lot of fast hondas/acuras out there. But there are more of the "others". Unfortuneatley I think that it is a image that will follow honda for a long time. At least here in the States. Personally I have no issues with the cars themselves, it is just the owners that I have mentioned. I can appreciate a well put together honda, but I just don't see very many. I would in fact not mind owning an rsx as a DD. It is a great looking car that is very reliable and gets good gas mileage, as well as it is pretty quick.

2FAST7S

I'm impressed...NOT! lol Why post your loss? I'd admit i lost to the Z06 but I wouldnt go around bragging about it! So I'm with most others on this one, not hating on the Hondas or anything just dont get( I actually thought the honda would win before seeing the vid).

I have to admit the vette does sound nice.

ps. maybe tell your boy to spray a little, that should do it!!!!!

tragic00

yea i bet the honda guys love saying "you got beat by a 4 banger"

but i absolutely love when i beat cars like corvettes/ amg mercedes and they say "holy **** whats in that car" i look over witha smug look and go "yeah, its a 1.3 liter baby" hahahaha.

rotary's are endless fun.. well not endless its only endless if you can afford an engine ever couple of years haha

jacobcartmill

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i didnt read this thread, i just watched the video


a car getting beat by a c5 z06. wooptie doo

post another video when he races another c5 z06 with a 150 shot of nitrous. oh wait, i guess he wont because he got beat by an all-motor c5 z06

turbogarrett

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Amen to that, all of my friends who are still into turbo 4 bangers are broke from constantly having to fix their cars. Yeah their cars are fast some of the time, if everything is tuned dead on, if there's c16 in the tank, if the stars are aligned perfectly etc.

matty

a ******* civic....enough said.

anyone who can get excitied about that has some issues in my book.

10thAEWHiteHeat

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damn.... that vette... sounds.... sweeeeet
so yeah what was supposed to be so impressive about the rsx? I would like to start off by saying that i don't think that RSX even had 400hp and if it did the car is not performing to its capabilities. I don't think people have bashed the K20 that much here.. just Hondas in general and rightfully so. I personally like hondas when they are well built i had a prelude with a JDM H22 in it and i loved that car to death. If most people who owned Hondas built them well and weren't complee ashats, i'm sure they would not get ripped on. It is unfortunate because there are plenty hondas owners out there who do not deserve to get thrown in the fire with the others that deserve to be sterotyped. But please, just stop complaining about getting ragged on so much...
AND GIVE PEOPLE AN EXCUSE NOT TO!!

1QWIK7

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Fast hondas have been around since early 90s.

You guys either havent been out much if you think a fast honda is "the new thing" or you dont have any nice cars in your area.

I can go to the track and ill see 2938293829 hondas running 12s or better. Most of them are doing better than some cars you would think would run a better time.

A K20 swapped honda, wow big whoop.

Its still a torqueless wonder. If i wanted a reliable grocery getter with great MPG, then ill cockride the honda. But in this subject, ill just laugh instead.

socalrotor

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If the k20 is so powerful, why does the k20 SI's have a 4.78 diff gear? Answer, NO ******* TORQUE........might as well be a motorcycle engine. I would MUCH rather have 300 ftlbs of torque and 200 HP, then the other way around. Only swap worth the time IMO is a AWD Acura RDX k24 turbo setup into, say a fit, that might be a fun sleeper!

elementFD

is it just me or did the vett win each time?

KeloidJonesJr.

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Hay Rastarajah!!!

RX7KENN

OKAY from the roll in, you had him till about 2nd maybe 3rd.
why did you stop recording when he was pulling away?
of course you'd keep up to him with a 40mph roll in.
I would like to see the hole race, and if you still keep withing 1,000,000 car lengths,
thats ****** impressive,
thanks.

RotaryEvolution

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any mention of drag radials on the RSX? sorry i couldn't real through all the BS...

if so, there is no comparing an off the showroom floor car to a fully built FWD car running on drag slicks that still got beat.

glosoli

LOL

peachykeenwight

I'm still lost... this isn't a kill, the Honda lost every race except for the one he jumped on (when the 'Vette clearly let off).

???

fd3s_jerry

k series is a capable motor, and if he swapped the engine/tranny into a crx or something, it'd be evil. but the rsx is overrated.