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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 09:22 PM
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Question Pipe bending question.

Hi guys, I'm working on a 4pt roll bar for my 2nd gen. I'm building it out of 1 3/4" steel tubing.

I have access to a hydraulic pipe bender in the mechanic building of out shop ( I run the paint side.) I've been slowly teaching myself how to use it and I have a few questions.

One problem I'm noticing is a bit of a flat spot on the inside of the bend. It's doing the job but, cosmetically due to the nature of my work bugs the **** out of me. Is there a way to fix this, or make it less noticeable. I presume I could heat up the metal pre-bending it to help relax the bend? Or possibly heat the inside radius to red hot and then quickly quench/cool it causing it to shrink a bit? Would using a larger die and then switching to the correct, smaller one help?

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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 10:50 PM
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maybe pack the pipe with sand?
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 03:06 PM
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With out a mandrel or draw bender its going to be hard to get a nice bend. Packing the pipe with sand does help but you have to weld on end caps. Another trick is to fill it with water and let it freeze.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 07:35 PM
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Unless the dies are designed for smooth cage type bends you are probably won't have any luck with getting smooth bends. You don't want a bend radius that is less than 3x's the diameter of the tubing. If you have access to a larger radius die, try it.

I've known of a few people that have ruined plenty of tubing trying to use an exhaust bending machine to make a cage.

I've had one of these for over 20 years
JD Squared, Inc. - Model 3 Bender
The dies are designed to put a little load on the sides of the tubing so it stretches a bit instead of collapsing.
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Old Mar 2, 2013 | 11:02 PM
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ive seen videos of packing the pipe with a water/sand mixture and duct taping the ends. made smooth bends even with a harbor freight pipe bender
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 10:50 PM
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I do have a mandrel, hand bender. Just don't have the correct dye and they want damn near $350+shipping for the correct dye.

Damn, I think I'm just going to by a hoop and fab the rest. Shame I got a really good deal on the steel and nothing else to use it on.
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pontiackid
I do have a mandrel, hand bender. Just don't have the correct dye and they want damn near $350+shipping for the correct dye.

Damn, I think I'm just going to by a hoop and fab the rest. Shame I got a really good deal on the steel and nothing else to use it on.
My company makes rotary draw benders (Rogue Fabrication, www.roguefab.com). You probably have a rotary draw bender. 99% of mandrel benders are electric or electric hydraulic. JD2 and the other common ones are all rotary draw benders. Do you have a plug that goes inside the tube? OR does the material wrap around a die?
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 08:09 PM
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if only I had $600 to spend on a bender....
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