Whats the Difference . . .
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Whats the Difference . . .
Whats th difference between a drift and a power slide? I was just thinking as i came to work this afternoon and slid around a corner. I can't really drift my car because I ain't good enough. But I figure i need to start somewhere.
Besides, Is it really possible to do a drift with an open differential?
Besides, Is it really possible to do a drift with an open differential?
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a power slide is when you force the rear end out and it tries to pass the front. You countersteer to avoid spinning and eventually straighten out and keep driving.
Drift is where you induce oversteer BEFORE the entry point of the corner and hold an angle while driving the front bumper past a clipping point continuing past the exit of the corner. Drifting also since its inception has always involved direction changes. American Pro drifting has kind of skimmed over this aspect and focuses on super high entry speeds and massive amounts of tire smoke. After drifting had sellout crowds in America D1 has also followed the whole, "put on a show" aspect of drifting.
The direction changes and carrying long drifts as opposed to power sliding will force you to have a differential because as the weight sets from one side to the other the open diff and most viscous will not maintain the same wheel speed causing you to straighten up or over correct in an attempt to compensate for the crappy diff and make you spin.
Drift is where you induce oversteer BEFORE the entry point of the corner and hold an angle while driving the front bumper past a clipping point continuing past the exit of the corner. Drifting also since its inception has always involved direction changes. American Pro drifting has kind of skimmed over this aspect and focuses on super high entry speeds and massive amounts of tire smoke. After drifting had sellout crowds in America D1 has also followed the whole, "put on a show" aspect of drifting.
The direction changes and carrying long drifts as opposed to power sliding will force you to have a differential because as the weight sets from one side to the other the open diff and most viscous will not maintain the same wheel speed causing you to straighten up or over correct in an attempt to compensate for the crappy diff and make you spin.
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F**K THE SYSTEM!!
A real drift starts a good distance ahead of the turn,includes hard braking and fast entrance speeds and finishes the turn without stopping the drift.
A power slide includes the side ways action and counter steering but is quite far from a full drift. It is often started on the middle of the turn and the exit of the turn is the only thing involved.
A power slide includes the side ways action and counter steering but is quite far from a full drift. It is often started on the middle of the turn and the exit of the turn is the only thing involved.
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Allmost, but not quite right.
A real drift do start good distance ahead of the turn, but does not include braking at all.
You use clutchkick, handbrake or "skandinavian flick" but if you brake you lose some serious points.
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that's stupid , it depends on the turn and how fast you are, if you're too fast you have to brake,...or you'll fly off the track
And braking-drifts are 'real' and beautiful drifts too.
If I'd be a drift judge I would give you more points for a braking drift than for a e-brake initiated drift.
But I think I know what you meant,... you meant if you can reduce enough speed while sliding sideways into a corner braking would cost points right?
And braking-drifts are 'real' and beautiful drifts too.
If I'd be a drift judge I would give you more points for a braking drift than for a e-brake initiated drift.
But I think I know what you meant,... you meant if you can reduce enough speed while sliding sideways into a corner braking would cost points right?
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obviously we are talking semantics here. Every car is different as is the track and the driver. Full on Kansei or complete drift involves every technique and incorporatiing them together as one to accomplish the goal.
The whole instruction video breakdown of e brake, clutch kick, braking etc etc is just basically bulletins in the whole breakdown of things you can use to initate and control the car. IMO ebraking to initate lands you a zero on the score sheet. That is the way it was in Japan. Formual D seems to not care as long as you are hauling ***
The whole instruction video breakdown of e brake, clutch kick, braking etc etc is just basically bulletins in the whole breakdown of things you can use to initate and control the car. IMO ebraking to initate lands you a zero on the score sheet. That is the way it was in Japan. Formual D seems to not care as long as you are hauling ***
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that's stupid , it depends on the turn and how fast you are, if you're too fast you have to brake,...or you'll fly off the track
And braking-drifts are 'real' and beautiful drifts too.
If I'd be a drift judge I would give you more points for a braking drift than for a e-brake initiated drift.
But I think I know what you meant,... you meant if you can reduce enough speed while sliding sideways into a corner braking would cost points right?
And braking-drifts are 'real' and beautiful drifts too.
If I'd be a drift judge I would give you more points for a braking drift than for a e-brake initiated drift.
But I think I know what you meant,... you meant if you can reduce enough speed while sliding sideways into a corner braking would cost points right?
You dont need brakes, just start drift earlyer and slow your speed with the angle.
So answer to question, yes
In FPDA and FDO series, you can use handbrake to initiate, but cluthc kick is preferd.
(Finnish Pro Drift Assosiation and Finnish Drift Open)
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So from what i get, drifting is starting before you turn in actually. I'm basically sliding out the rear end when i fishtail it at the end of my turn.
Thanks for the answeers
Thanks for the answeers
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